Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

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Anonymous wrote:At least one prominent NYC rabbi recently gave a sermon saying that no Jew should support Mamdani. Full stop. And this is a pretty mainstream rabbi who doesn't do drama.

Not saying I agree or disagree. Just mentioning it. I think it is too late to move the needle so I guess they wanted to get it off their chest.


Which one? Link?


Cosgrove at Park Avenue. It is on Youtube. He is far from a rabble rouser - this is not some Al Sharpton type.


Weird that you’re bashing Al sharpton. You seem unaware of his current positions.

Also weird that this rabbi is bashing mamdani so hard for fairly mild statements, yet he’s not out there bashing the ‘hitler’ text chain people.

Money talks, people. And there is a shocking amount of Islamophobia that is just accepted and even encouraged.

Finally if you look at the user comments below this piece, they’re disgusting.


Now you’re saying Jews are “disgusting”? Wow.

Wharton never apologized for the Tawana Brawley or Duke lacrosse rape hoaxes which he made national news. He’s irresponsible and the black community suffered because he enriched himself as he ignored real issues. There’s a reason Harlem is more Hispanic now and the locals were displaced.

The Hitler text chain people aren’t on the ballot.


Sharpton wasn’t part of the Duke case. Huh?


https://www.npr.org/sections/newsandviews/2007/10/whoopi_to_sharpton_apologize_t_1.html

He was one of the biggest cheerleaders for those men to rot in jail for life despite zero evidence of rape.


He commented on a case, just as many people comment on cases like Nancy grace etc. Do you call on her to apologize for 20 year old comments she made?


Yea she was as bad an offender. She went on every night assuming their guilt and ignored plenty of evidence in the other direction (even before the Nifong misconduct came to light). They both should absolutely not be involved positively
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The Duke case was an immediate non starter and only ideologues believed the accuser. She was a drug addicted prostitute with mental illness and that was obvious at the outset. Good kids at Duke don’t gang r@pe an ugly stripper.
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Cuomo.
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Two things can be true at the same time, but Mamdani supporters refuse to accept this:

1. There are unfortunately people who are Islamaphobic and this is why the dislike Mamdani. This is horrible and not OK, but these people do exist.
2. The majority of those who do not like Mamdani are not Islamaphobic.

It is not OK to broadly say that anyone against Mamdani is Islamaphobic. People have given countless reasons for disliking him. You may choose to disagree with all of them, but this does not make at least some of them reasonable. It is irresponsible to say that everyone who disagrees with you is racist. But that is what people here are doing. Not cool.
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From a NYT comment to Bret Stephen’s Israel first column today. (One of many)
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I wonder if you'd have the same fear if there were a Jewish candidate who was fervently pro-Israel and defended all of their actions against Palestinians? Who spent their college years as a member of a Zionist club that refused to accept Palestinian statehood? Somehow I doubt it.

I would also predict outrage if the public and media always pointed out his Jewishness and made him an avatar for any bad action on the part of another Jewish person or Israeli. And rightfully so.

Yet when it comes to Mamdani, we don't see past his religion. When it comes to Mamdani, we don't have the same understanding for his defense of Palestinians, as were are expected to have for Jewish Americans who defend Israel.

It is abhorrent to be anti-semitic. Yet, no one thinks twice about blatant anti-muslim rhetoric. It has been so normalized, that people feel justified in being "afraid" of muslim people. Not just future mayors, but immigrants and American muslim communities.

How is this ok? How is this defensible?
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Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.


The girl comment is funny. Mamdani wrote an article while at Bowdoin complaining how white girls didn’t find him attractive. Pretty ugly looking guy.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.


The girl comment is funny. Mamdani wrote an article while at Bowdoin complaining how white girls didn’t find him attractive. Pretty ugly looking guy.


Interesting. That seems to show a complete lack of discretion (assuming it was written in a serious tone and not as a total joke). I will not hold against him his sins from college, even though in his case that wasn't too long ago, but it does fit my impression of him.

Perhaps they didn't like him because he is a phony. Or did he also blame that on being Muslim, which is what all of his supporters blame everything on when people criticize him? Any criticism of his policy plans (or lack thereof) and/or his lack of experience immediately gets redirected to "you just don't like him because he's Muslim". Nope. Sorry.

I don't care what he looks like. Not part of the job requirement and I don't think he looks that odd.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.


The girl comment is funny. Mamdani wrote an article while at Bowdoin complaining how white girls didn’t find him attractive. Pretty ugly looking guy.


Wow a new low for the trolls. Going after looks.

There’s a thread in Teens about a mom whose dd is in love with Mamdani. Lots of posters agreed, he’s fairly hot
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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at the same time, but Mamdani supporters refuse to accept this:

1. There are unfortunately people who are Islamaphobic and this is why the dislike Mamdani. This is horrible and not OK, but these people do exist.
2. The majority of those who do not like Mamdani are not Islamaphobic.

It is not OK to broadly say that anyone against Mamdani is Islamaphobic. People have given countless reasons for disliking him. You may choose to disagree with all of them, but this does not make at least some of them reasonable. It is irresponsible to say that everyone who disagrees with you is racist. But that is what people here are doing. Not cool.


Right, people have given such concrete reasons for not liking him. Like his looks and how he seems ‘like a phony’.
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Anonymous wrote:From a NYT comment to Bret Stephen’s Israel first column today. (One of many)
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I wonder if you'd have the same fear if there were a Jewish candidate who was fervently pro-Israel and defended all of their actions against Palestinians? Who spent their college years as a member of a Zionist club that refused to accept Palestinian statehood? Somehow I doubt it.

I would also predict outrage if the public and media always pointed out his Jewishness and made him an avatar for any bad action on the part of another Jewish person or Israeli. And rightfully so.

Yet when it comes to Mamdani, we don't see past his religion. When it comes to Mamdani, we don't have the same understanding for his defense of Palestinians, as were are expected to have for Jewish Americans who defend Israel.

It is abhorrent to be anti-semitic. Yet, no one thinks twice about blatant anti-muslim rhetoric. It has been so normalized, that people feel justified in being "afraid" of muslim people. Not just future mayors, but immigrants and American muslim communities.

How is this ok? How is this defensible?


So many smart posts like this, and more.


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Cuomo had the backing of Michael Bloomberg, who poured $25 million into a super PAC. Bill Clinton campaigned for Cuomo. The entire Democratic establishment lined up behind AIPAC’s chosen candidate, including some who had previously condemned Cuomo’s corruption.

It didn’t matter. Voters saw through the smear campaigns, the racism, the fear tactics, and the flood of dark money.
People are looking for answers not the corrupt status quo.

They chose justice.
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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true at the same time, but Mamdani supporters refuse to accept this:

1. There are unfortunately people who are Islamaphobic and this is why the dislike Mamdani. This is horrible and not OK, but these people do exist.
2. The majority of those who do not like Mamdani are not Islamaphobic.

It is not OK to broadly say that anyone against Mamdani is Islamaphobic. People have given countless reasons for disliking him. You may choose to disagree with all of them, but this does not make at least some of them reasonable. It is irresponsible to say that everyone who disagrees with you is racist. But that is what people here are doing. Not cool.


Right, people have given such concrete reasons for not liking him. Like his looks and how he seems ‘like a phony’.


I have wasted hours of my time here writing about his limited experience, the fact that he is making suggestions he can't pay for, how rent freezes don't work, etc. But you obsessively latch on to the one idiot who posted something else and generalized (I keep using that word - I should start calling you the General) that every single person who opposes Mamdani only does so for silly reasons.

Perhaps I will start to generalize and assume that all Mamdani supporters completely lack critical thinking skills, the ability to understand a budget, or the way to engage in a respectful, intelligent debate about the issues (and yes, I have made some childish insults so before you bring those up, I am not alone in doing so and by bringing them up again you will actually be further proving my point that you are engaging in whataboutisms). An intelligent, respectful debater is willing to admit the flaws in their own side in addition to arguing for it. I have repeatedly done so - I have acknowledged some of Mamdani's positives and admitted that there are plenty of people who are opposed to him for bad reasons. But not all of us. You refuse to engage accordingly.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.



He fakes his accents depending on who he’s talking to. It’s phony.
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I think Mamdani is attractive and has a nice smile. Not voting for him however.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone I know grew up or worked with someone like Mamdani. Complete phony - that smile makes me ill. It was the kid who tried too hard to be clever, sucked up to the teachers, and was just overall really annoying. No one truly liked them, even the sweetest, nicest girls in the class. He was insufferable.

I just can't get past that. The only reason I would even consider him is that we all also grew up with a Cuomo and that kid wasn't too loveable either - sketchy guy who no one could really trust and was kind of a jerk.


The girl comment is funny. Mamdani wrote an article while at Bowdoin complaining how white girls didn’t find him attractive. Pretty ugly looking guy.


Wow a new low for the trolls. Going after looks.

There’s a thread in Teens about a mom whose dd is in love with Mamdani. Lots of posters agreed, he’s fairly hot


White female posters disagree, and they’re the ones he pines for publicly and in writing
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