APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.


They got so hostile and irrational.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Miranda is probably not as extreme as some of the people in APE on divisive issues, but she can't say so because she would alienate her base.


I agree, and that's a problem for me. I don't want a school board member beholden to that kind of a base.


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Reminds me a lot of Youngkin actually. I don't think he's super extreme, just an opportunist. But he's playing to a right wing base for votes. I see the same danger with Miranda given who is in her APE base.

....and i'm not feeling any better after this thread watching her camp defend her non stance on trans rights and calling a clear stance on trans virtue signaling and not an important issue.


I think he's extreme on women's rights. Maybe not The Big Lie, but was very willing to push that to get votes.

Curious to see how MT handles her base. She may not need their vote for the caucus now that Erin has dropped out.


She needs their money though.


to pay for the Miranda Van!


She could self fund her own campaign I suppose, but I’m sure she’d rather take money from APE supporters. Those yard signs aren’t cheap.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Miranda is probably not as extreme as some of the people in APE on divisive issues, but she can't say so because she would alienate her base.


I agree, and that's a problem for me. I don't want a school board member beholden to that kind of a base.


+1

Reminds me a lot of Youngkin actually. I don't think he's super extreme, just an opportunist. But he's playing to a right wing base for votes. I see the same danger with Miranda given who is in her APE base.

....and i'm not feeling any better after this thread watching her camp defend her non stance on trans rights and calling a clear stance on trans virtue signaling and not an important issue.


I think he's extreme on women's rights. Maybe not The Big Lie, but was very willing to push that to get votes.

Curious to see how MT handles her base. She may not need their vote for the caucus now that Erin has dropped out.


She needs their money though.


to pay for the Miranda Van!


She could self fund her own campaign I suppose, but I’m sure she’d rather take money from APE supporters. Those yard signs aren’t cheap.


They are cheap. Certainly a law firm partner could afford to buy a few hundred.
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This actually might be the first year I don’t donate to any SB member.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Miranda is probably not as extreme as some of the people in APE on divisive issues, but she can't say so because she would alienate her base.


I agree, and that's a problem for me. I don't want a school board member beholden to that kind of a base.


+1

Reminds me a lot of Youngkin actually. I don't think he's super extreme, just an opportunist. But he's playing to a right wing base for votes. I see the same danger with Miranda given who is in her APE base.

....and i'm not feeling any better after this thread watching her camp defend her non stance on trans rights and calling a clear stance on trans virtue signaling and not an important issue.


I think he's extreme on women's rights. Maybe not The Big Lie, but was very willing to push that to get votes.

Curious to see how MT handles her base. She may not need their vote for the caucus now that Erin has dropped out.


She needs their money though.


to pay for the Miranda Van!


She could self fund her own campaign I suppose, but I’m sure she’d rather take money from APE supporters. Those yard signs aren’t cheap.


They are cheap. Certainly a law firm partner could afford to buy a few hundred.


She’d rather do it with other peoples money. If I was running, I’d fundraisers like a boss too.

Endorsements will be interesting to say the least. Will the powers that be sit on their hands and just endorse county board candidates?
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).


Human rights is always a pressing issue and the fact that you used the term “virtue signaling” tells me exactly what you are. Only one side uses that terminology. These issues may not be important to you, but they are to me. And I can’t I’m good conscience vote for someone who can’t say that trans people deserve to feel safe in schools and have the same rights as heteronormative kids. She and Antonio needs to denounce Youngkin’s divisive rhetoric.

Miranda needs to go on the record to unequivocally say her stances not just on trans issues, but CRT, library book banning, SROs, and the like. I feel like Antonio will be more forthcoming, but we will see.
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).


Human rights is always a pressing issue and the fact that you used the term “virtue signaling” tells me exactly what you are. Only one side uses that terminology. These issues may not be important to you, but they are to me. And I can’t I’m good conscience vote for someone who can’t say that trans people deserve to feel safe in schools and have the same rights as heteronormative kids. She and Antonio needs to denounce Youngkin’s divisive rhetoric.

Miranda needs to go on the record to unequivocally say her stances not just on trans issues, but CRT, library book banning, SROs, and the like. I feel like Antonio will be more forthcoming, but we will see.


Antonio has nothing to loose so he’ll be very forthcoming on these topics. There is a path for him to win if he positions himself like former FCPS school board member Ryan Mcelveen. What set Mcelveen apart was his advocacy on behalf of student issues, and his famous snow day twitter account that brought him positive media attention.
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).


Human rights is always a pressing issue and the fact that you used the term “virtue signaling” tells me exactly what you are. Only one side uses that terminology. These issues may not be important to you, but they are to me. And I can’t I’m good conscience vote for someone who can’t say that trans people deserve to feel safe in schools and have the same rights as heteronormative kids. She and Antonio needs to denounce Youngkin’s divisive rhetoric.

Miranda needs to go on the record to unequivocally say her stances not just on trans issues, but CRT, library book banning, SROs, and the like. I feel like Antonio will be more forthcoming, but we will see.



If Miranda is truly a Democrat, she will have no problem denouncing Youngkin and his attacks on public schools. But... maybe she just said that she was just to get the ACDC to stand behind her.
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning[i]. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor[b]. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).


1. Nobody said APE is anti-trans, just that there are anti-trans members.
2. Her tweet wasn’t exactly supportive of transgender kids. It was too vague.
3. A lot can change if Rs win the state senate. Just takes two turnovers.
4. Being anti-trans is certainly a deal breaker for many people in Arlington.

Again, people just want her to be more specific with her position. And if she does come out as very supportive of LGBTQ kids then actually follow through if/when the time comes. No campaign lies.
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.



I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.





It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning[i]. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor[b]. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).


1. Nobody said APE is anti-trans, just that there are anti-trans members.
2. Her tweet wasn’t exactly supportive of transgender kids. It was too vague.
3. A lot can change if Rs win the state senate. Just takes two turnovers.
4. Being anti-trans is certainly a deal breaker for many people in Arlington.

Again, people just want her to be more specific with her position. And if she does come out as very supportive of LGBTQ kids then actually follow through if/when the time comes. No campaign lies.


1000%. All anyone asked here is for her to clearly get on the record that she will support trans students. I like what the poster said above about trans men are men and trans women are women. And that if the Model Trans Policies come to pass she will stand behind the APS School Board and reject them entirely, staying with the PIP we already have affirming trans students in our schools. All she has to do is say that. That's it. And we can all move on.

Antonio, if he's smart should come out of the gate running and make himself the true progressive running.
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Are the races this nutty everywhere??? Is it common for a political party to endorse school board candidates? We are just starting to pay attention to the APS stuff bc our kids will be going soon. I’m kinda scared!
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Anonymous wrote:Are the races this nutty everywhere??? Is it common for a political party to endorse school board candidates? We are just starting to pay attention to the APS stuff bc our kids will be going soon. I’m kinda scared!


Arlington is a Type A town, so a lot of people have a lot of opinions about how their children should be educated. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing unless bad actors become involved. Youngkin being elected and actively trying to dismantle public schooling and disenfranchise Black, Brown, LGBT+ and disabled students make parents who care about these kids too demand answers from prospective school board members. There's nothing wrong with that either.


Yes, the ACDC runs this town (including the "nonpartisan" School Board races), and there is something very wrong with that. Qualified candidates, many who are federal employees can't run because of the Hatch Act. And divisiveness and mean-spiritedness from certain quarters keeps the rest of the best candidates away.

So we two underwhelming candidates. We have to parse through which one is better than the other. Miranda's supporters aren't sending out their best folks. And Antonio? I guess he's just waiting to make his move. Nobody knows anything about him except he's 22 and a new Arlingtonian resident. But those are our choices. You should be scared.
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Anonymous wrote:Are the races this nutty everywhere??? Is it common for a political party to endorse school board candidates? We are just starting to pay attention to the APS stuff bc our kids will be going soon. I’m kinda scared!


The level of vitriol and attacks ramped up to a new level during Miranda’s first race and it was not coming from her opponent, let’s just say that.
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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are delusional. APE has never waded into culture war issues. They have a Facebook group and newsletter subscribers that reach over a 1000+ people according to their website. A member (supposedly as I still have no idea who you’re talking about) in the Facebook forum also belong to PDE (is that right?) which has anti trans views. Anyone can join the Facebook group. But because the website references their reach therefore MT = anti trans. Posters here okay to leap to transphobic assumptions while simultaneously taking pains to explain why MT’s supportive tweet of a picture of the APS trans student asking a tough question at the townhall somehow means the opposite of what any reasonable person would interpret. The posters here need to step back and let the forums play out. Given MT’s tweet and other comments I’ve seen her post and link to, I have zero doubt she’s a trans-ally. Is that her top issue on campaign? No and I hope not given that APS policy is supportive of trans kids and it would be pure virtue signaling. I’m sure she will be asked a pointed question on this and she will answer and until then you’re all just massively speculating and spreading lies on the internet.


Yikes, my man. Rewriting history here. I was here in 2020-21 too, and APE members definitely waded into the culture wars. Your big tent has trash people. Deal with them.


Really? Which issue? Because I’ve also been in the Facebook group and have been very impressed that they rise above all that nonsense. And they put out a regular newsletter, have all their issues on their website, and disclose who their speakers are at meetings. I’ve NEVER seen them touch a culture war issue. They’re hyper local issues about budget, curriculum, small class sizes, and teacher pay. You probably saw a stray comment on some Facebook post and have run with it being their platform. For the lurkers out there: this thread has gone off the rails, suggest you check out for yourself these assertions and leaps of imagination to see how off base they are. I look forward to you all looking like fools when MT affirms her support for trans students in a forum. I’m sure you’ll all be twisting in knots on how to spin it to mean the opposite of whatever she says.


I agree. Miranda should weigh on this. Right now. Disavow herself of Youngkin's Transgender Model Policies and say on the record that trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls, and they absolutely should use the same bathrooms as their gender and play sports with people of their same gender. It's not that hard.

Honestly, Miranda's supporters here are making it worse for her by insulting and calling out "mental health" every time someone poses a thought different from theirs.



It's just like what they did in the last campaign. Last time they labeled everyone who didn't agree 100 with them as a closed schooler.



I think this comment is the heart of the issue with this thread. These posters associate every comment made by someone as being what a candidate or group believes. I remember the obnoxious poster who called everyone a closed schooler and ventilation queen. They were annoying but to hold that against the candidate or APE is just dumb. People are obnoxious on the internet. Just like it’s really defying common sense to characterize ape as anti trans because some transphobe happens to join the Facebook group and to twist a trans-supportive tweet to have the opposite meaning. APS thankfully has very supportive trans policies and these are not pressing issues in our community even with the current governor. I also don’t recall ever seeing explicit trans policies on other candidate’s website (although I’m sure the kid has something given all that he really has going for him is virtue signaling with the best of them).



If we are referring to the same obnoxious guy, which I think we are, he wasn't some rando. He was working for Miranda's campaign and he was out there speaking publicly on behalf of APE at School board meetings. BIG difference.

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