Lockdown at Blair?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Stop targeting people by race. You sound racist. What is your solution? Where is all the documentation?

Racists like you wouldn't know about black and brown kids plights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Stop targeting people by race. You sound racist. What is your solution? Where is all the documentation?

Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

And, how many are going to sign up to do that! Be real.

A ton. Try it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

+1 sounds like a plan. Now, if only MCPS would implement it. But, in the meantime, we need SROs in the schools. The violence in the schools is terrifying.

You need security, not cops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Since when did we start letting teenagers determine policy?

Most SROs are black and brown. And female. And most are really good at what they do. But at this point, we likely will never get them back. If they assign police to schools again, it will be patrol officers who haven't had the enhanced training. Many have already retired like Officer Lowery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Bi8r2q4qw

[Anonymous]

I mean, this is who you got rid of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1sAKh_vA_c

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

+1 sounds like a plan. Now, if only MCPS would implement it. But, in the meantime, we need SROs in the schools. The violence in the schools is terrifying.

You need security, not cops.

Cops are security. The security we have isn't working. So, what's your real plan? You think a therapist or teacher is going to stop a knife fight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

+1 sounds like a plan. Now, if only MCPS would implement it. But, in the meantime, we need SROs in the schools. The violence in the schools is terrifying.

You need security, not cops.

Cops are security. The security we have isn't working. So, what's your real plan? You think a therapist or teacher is going to stop a knife fight?

If you can train a 5ft 100lb chick to be a cop you can train a therapist or teacher to be an SRO.

You don't need guns and arrest powers to stop a fight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Stop targeting people by race. You sound racist. What is your solution? Where is all the documentation?

Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

And, how many are going to sign up to do that! Be real.

A ton. Try it.

Why don't you try it and take a job like that? Many of us in the mental health field would never take jobs like that due to safety.

We have counselors and teachers at the school. They are trained to handle these things. So, why is violence going up, not down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, this is who you got rid of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1sAKh_vA_c

and this https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/body-camera-police-footage-5-year-old-boy/65-48579fa7-8422-48b4-8f6f-f5361721879a

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Stop targeting people by race. You sound racist. What is your solution? Where is all the documentation?

Racists like you wouldn't know about black and brown kids plights.

Racist use skin color as talking points. Just like they do the poor kids. And, those kids are the most at risk for violence. Who is protecting them?

So, what is your real proposal to keep kids safe regardless of skin color?

Are you willing to volunteer at a school weekly as security?

[Anonymous]

We had about 300 arrests. 27 of them were serious. The other 270 were referred for counseling. without knowing what the reason are that the 270 were referred for counseling, we won't know whether or not blacks are targeted more unfairly than whites. If certain actions lead to an arrest then do we care what skin color is involved? But if the decision to arrest is subjective, then yes, I can see how me might have a problem.
Why are kids being arrested and who are these kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hire SRO’s that are trained psychologists or educators (especially special Ed) and train them to be SRO’s.

Don’t take cops with 2 year degrees and shown already to be bad at their job and make them SRO’s.

+1 sounds like a plan. Now, if only MCPS would implement it. But, in the meantime, we need SROs in the schools. The violence in the schools is terrifying.

No, we don't. There was violence in schools when SROs were there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: We had about 300 arrests. 27 of them were serious. The other 270 were referred for counseling. without knowing what the reason are that the 270 were referred for counseling, we won't know whether or not blacks are targeted more unfairly than whites. If certain actions lead to an arrest then do we care what skin color is involved? But if the decision to arrest is subjective, then yes, I can see how me might have a problem.
Why are kids being arrested and who are these kids?

There is research showing disparities by race in school discipline actions are not due to differences in behavior, and given everything else we know about police, this most likely extends to these types of arrests https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133760/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

You guys are insane. "Let's get rid of SRO's because they are arresting kids too much." And then when that's proven wrong, "Then get rid of them because they can't get the job done."
WTF.
Why don't you guys do a little more research and talk to the principals and staff and ask them what SROs are doing in addition to maintaining a safe environment at the school. Ours were at practically every event and were viewed as role models for students, especially those that didn't have a father figure in their life. Ours was a trusted person in the community, knew what was really going on- if a fight was brewing, etc. and was able to prevent terrible things to happen. Ours was at the food distribution sites helping deliver food during the pandemic. No, they are not psychologists but the role they served was valuable. Ask a Psychologist if they want to do the job of an SRO. Good luck with that one.

Research studies show that when SROs are present, more arrests are made. It may be that school staff are initiating the arrests, it may also be that they seek arrest because the SRO is there. The SRO program is basically an invitation to administrators to criminalize nonviolent student behavior (the increases in arrests are in minor offenses like disorderly conduct) instead of dealing with it themselves. And maybe that's because they don't have the resources/appropriate polices to discipline students, but that is no excuse for arresting them instead.

The research doesn't support what's happening at MCPS. At MCPS, the number of "physical arrests" which are for violent, serious crimes was 27 out of a total 269 arrests. The remaining arrests do not go on a student's record and simply results in a citation for counseling. And remember only 3% of the 269 were initiated by SROs. To abolish this program without a proper implementation plan is a huge sign of irresponsibility on the part of the County. We should've listened to more voices and reviewed and analyzed the data. We should be looking at other local counties such as Howard County to see what they're doing there.

You see that as proof that the SRO program is working, I see it as a sign that students are having criminal justice involvement for things that should be handled by the schools. The schools aren't doing their job, guess what, students of color and advocates for them are fighting back and saying they don't want to be harassed by police anymore. I get it, you are White and do not care. That doesn't change their reality.

In MCPS, the majority at many schools are POC so you need to look at actual statistics of each school as if you have 75% POC, then, by % there should be a higher number.

The majority of students are POC, right? Therefore they decided that they don't want SROs. They don't feel safe around them. It's not about what you want. It's about what they want.
End of story

And, where is that documented? It wasn’t so stop speaking for others.

Where is what is documented? You think black and brown kids feel safe around SROs?

Stop targeting people by race. You sound racist. What is your solution? Where is all the documentation?

Racists like you wouldn't know about black and brown kids plights.

Racist use skin color as talking points. Just like they do the poor kids. And, those kids are the most at risk for violence. Who is protecting them?

So, what is your real proposal to keep kids safe regardless of skin color?

Are you willing to volunteer at a school weekly as security?

Like you're doing. Since when you care about black and brown kids? You don't care about black and brown kids plights. Don't pretend to care about them when all you care is for Ian and Madison to feel safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: We had about 300 arrests. 27 of them were serious. The other 270 were referred for counseling. without knowing what the reason are that the 270 were referred for counseling, we won't know whether or not blacks are targeted more unfairly than whites. If certain actions lead to an arrest then do we care what skin color is involved? But if the decision to arrest is subjective, then yes, I can see how me might have a problem.
Why are kids being arrested and who are these kids?

The 270 were referred for counseling and their arrest doesn't go on their record. How is this being unfair? I would say it's giving them an advantage.