Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Biden should be getting this text AND a monthly inflation text.

[Anonymous]

Long may he Reign

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think what Congress could really benefit from is a Google Docs type of system, where every draft is a shared document, where every section of a document has the ability to thumb-up or thumb-down and submit comments and amendments, every change is transparent and tracked, every pageview is tracked, every comment is visible. First of all, let's see how many of them actually even READ what's in the bills. And, call out those who don't participate in the system, because they are not productive members of the legislature. I suspect half of them don't even read them and just go by whatever some FOX News pundit says about the bill. Second, no more back and forth about what someone will or won't support. Third, no more backroom bullshit that gets reneged on because nothing's in writing.

Funny that you have to put in a dig about republicans. It’s obvious to me that democrats would never do a system like you proposed, because slipping in liberal pork that “you’ll find out when we vote it in” is the name of the game for democrats.

Did you see that the bipartisan infrastructure bill isn’t allowed to be used for new roads and bridges?? It needs to have a zero footprint so can only go over existing infrastructure. So can’t be used in the high growth (mostly red at this point) areas like in Florida. I hope the republicans who voted for that learned their lesson, not to trust that democrats are negotiating in good faith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

He's not moving goalposts. He's responding to the fact that our inflation has gone up from 4.6% in July 2021 to 7% in December 2022! Unlike the POTUS. What do the Dems intend to do while acknowledging groceries and food are unaffordable? And please don't say 'BBB tackles inflation'. It absolutely does not - it just gives free money to a segment of the population further exacerbating inflationary growth as we've seen over the last year.

FOOD. FOCUS ON IT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what Congress could really benefit from is a Google Docs type of system, where every draft is a shared document, where every section of a document has the ability to thumb-up or thumb-down and submit comments and amendments, every change is transparent and tracked, every pageview is tracked, every comment is visible. First of all, let's see how many of them actually even READ what's in the bills. And, call out those who don't participate in the system, because they are not productive members of the legislature. I suspect half of them don't even read them and just go by whatever some FOX News pundit says about the bill. Second, no more back and forth about what someone will or won't support. Third, no more backroom bullshit that gets reneged on because nothing's in writing.

Funny that you have to put in a dig about republicans. It’s obvious to me that democrats would never do a system like you proposed, because slipping in liberal pork that “you’ll find out when we vote it in” is the name of the game for democrats.

Did you see that the bipartisan infrastructure bill isn’t allowed to be used for new roads and bridges?? It needs to have a zero footprint so can only go over existing infrastructure. So can’t be used in the high growth (mostly red at this point) areas like in Florida. I hope the republicans who voted for that learned their lesson, not to trust that democrats are negotiating in good faith.

Oh puh-frickin-leeze. "You'll find out when we vote it in" was yet another dishonest GOP soundbite bullshit trick on ACA. The language that was voted on had BEEN IN THE HANDS of every Republican for MONTHS prior to the vote, had been gone over by staffers with a fine toothed comb, had been discussed in Committees, had been discussed in Caucus meetings, etc. Anyone in Congress who said they "didn't know what was in it" was either lying through their teeth, comatose, or grotesquely incompetent, take your pick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

It was still called BBB and that name is now toxic. The individual pieces are popular. But few people are aware of what's actually in it (including me - and I am overly invested in politics). I think you could craft a new bill that leaves behind some stuff and is called something new, and bring Manchin in earlier, and - unicorns. I don't know. One dares to dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

He's not moving goalposts. He's responding to the fact that our inflation has gone up from 4.6% in July 2021 to 7% in December 2022! Unlike the POTUS. What do the Dems intend to do while acknowledging groceries and food are unaffordable? And please don't say 'BBB tackles inflation'. It absolutely does not - it just gives free money to a segment of the population further exacerbating inflationary growth as we've seen over the last year.

FOOD. FOCUS ON IT.

No. It *ABSOLUTELY IS* moving the goalposts.

He didn't bring it up until now. Even if inflation dropped back to 4.6% and the debt dropped back to $29T he'd no doubt come up with some other bullshit excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

It was still called BBB and that name is now toxic. The individual pieces are popular. But few people are aware of what's actually in it (including me - and I am overly invested in politics). I think you could craft a new bill that leaves behind some stuff and is called something new, and bring Manchin in earlier, and - unicorns. I don't know. One dares to dream.

Manchin was already given that opportunity. Every Senate Democrat except for Sanders said "Here, YOU write the bill. YOU call it whatever you want, YOU put in the pieces you want."
Manchin said "No."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

With inflation so high in an election year nothing is going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think what Congress could really benefit from is a Google Docs type of system, where every draft is a shared document, where every section of a document has the ability to thumb-up or thumb-down and submit comments and amendments, every change is transparent and tracked, every pageview is tracked, every comment is visible. First of all, let's see how many of them actually even READ what's in the bills. And, call out those who don't participate in the system, because they are not productive members of the legislature. I suspect half of them don't even read them and just go by whatever some FOX News pundit says about the bill. Second, no more back and forth about what someone will or won't support. Third, no more backroom bullshit that gets reneged on because nothing's in writing.

Funny that you have to put in a dig about republicans. It’s obvious to me that democrats would never do a system like you proposed, because slipping in liberal pork that “you’ll find out when we vote it in” is the name of the game for democrats.

Did you see that the bipartisan infrastructure bill isn’t allowed to be used for new roads and bridges?? It needs to have a zero footprint so can only go over existing infrastructure. So can’t be used in the high growth (mostly red at this point) areas like in Florida. I hope the republicans who voted for that learned their lesson, not to trust that democrats are negotiating in good faith.

For the billionth time, Pelosi said that in reference to the fear, uncertainty, and doubt that Republicans were spreading about the ACA. Their doomsday predictions certainly would not come to pass, but because Republicans were impervious to reasoning and not negotiating in good faith, Pelosi said that they have to pass the bill in order to prove it. Reps, Senators, and committees have teams of staffers to pore over every detail. Do you honestly think that there are sections and provisions in bills that Congresspeople just don't know about until it becomes law?

It's pretty ironic that you would accused Democrats of not negotiating in good faith and then turn around and make a bad-faith argument, but hey, it's not surprising that a Republican hack like yourself is invested in perpetuating that lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Long may he Reign

I think this gives Dems a chance to reset and reintroduce parts of BBB with less negative sentiment attached to it, and everyone getting to save face.

They already tried that. Right before Manchin said it was dead, with the sole objection of Bernie Sanders, the Senate Dems offered to give him the pen and said "you don't like parts of it, strike them out, you make BBB into something you would vote for."

Manchin's lazy answer to that was "no, it's dead."

Manchin is not operating on any principled stance whatsoever. He is not operating in good faith. His latest arbitrary reason was "the debt is over $30t." That one never came up before. He just keeps moving goalposts and making up new excuses. And sorry, all of that shows plainly that he is not the hero anyone wants to tout him as.

He's not moving goalposts. He's responding to the fact that our inflation has gone up from 4.6% in July 2021 to 7% in December 2022! Unlike the POTUS. What do the Dems intend to do while acknowledging groceries and food are unaffordable? And please don't say 'BBB tackles inflation'. It absolutely does not - it just gives free money to a segment of the population further exacerbating inflationary growth as we've seen over the last year.

FOOD. FOCUS ON IT.

No. It *ABSOLUTELY IS* moving the goalposts.

He didn't bring it up until now. Even if inflation dropped back to 4.6% and the debt dropped back to $29T he'd no doubt come up with some other bullshit excuse.

It didn't happen until now. WTF? Aside from that he's been warning about inflation for months and the administration has nothing to say but 'inflation is transitory'. Not so transitory now is it? Can't wait to see the January 2022 numbers.