Stop bringing your dog to elementary pick up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. The long and the short of it is that I will not bring my dog anywhere that has a “no dogs” sign. I will, however, bring my dog anywhere that I am permitted. A lot of people on this thread seem to think that dogs should not be brought within 100 yards of a school. This is ridiculous. Any sidewalk, even directly in front of a school, is public property and thus completely within the limits of acceptable dog presence. Rather than wringing your hands about your children being scared of dogs, focus on helping your children learn to deal with dogs. Simultaneously, more owners should train their dogs better. But in the long run, dogs aren’t going anywhere and your dislike/fear of them isn’t going to change that.

No one, and I mean no one, has suggested dogs should be allowed "within 100 yards" of a school.

The sidewalk outside a school is different from bring the dog onto the playground or school property where kids and families are gathering and may linger to speak to a teacher, fill out paperwork, have a play date, etc. Standing outside a school with your dog, a reasonable distance from other families so it's easy for anyone with an issue to avoid you, doesn't sound like it's the problem. The problem is people entering school grounds with a dog and assuming everyone is okay with it.

Also, it's the beginning of the school year, during a pandemic. My kid does have a strong fear of dogs and it is absolutely something we're working on. With trusted dogs whose owners we know, in settings where we have some control over when we can leave or how our kid interacts with the dog. When people bring their dogs to pickup, it doesn't help socialize my kid to dogs. It would be like me bringing my kid to a dog park to help you socialize your dog to children. I don't take my kid to dog parks because that doesn't make sense. And I don't expect dog owners to stay off the sidewalk or not bring their dogs to outdoor patios or parks. But schools aren't for dogs. They are for kids. I think it's reasonable to say "know what, some kids just can't deal with dogs so lets keep the dogs away from this building FOR KIDS."

The entitlement from dog owners in this thread is gross and is basically why people get upset about dogs in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I walk my dog to get my kid and we stand on the playground because that’s where pick up is. I’m not by the doors but I’m on school property. I’d like to see more people walking and less cars blocking everything personally.

Isn’t the playground school property?

[Anonymous]

I don't have a dog in the fight (pun intended) but when my kids were in ES our school sent an email out prohibiting dogs at pickup. It did get ridiculous at one point, sidewalks around the school were narrow, buses were leaving every five minutes and kids trying to run to school buses had to jump over dogs. Meanwhile, proud 'dog parents' whose snowflakes, apparently, didn't have to take a bus, were blocking the road. Oh, and once said snowflakes exited the building, they'd stop dead in their tracks smooching their stupid dogs.

Not sure if the school enforces the 'no dog' policy now, but before covid, they did. For good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the outdoors. It's the dogs natural habitat. Why don't you stop trying to own outside. It's open to squirrels, raccoons, mice, dogs, cats, bears.

You need a chill pill. If your kid is too fragile to see a dog outside, they probably should be home schooled in isolation, or in a special institution for children with special needs.

The dog itself is not natural. It was a wolf and you turned it into a pug. Get over yourself with this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

This thread exposes why people should think long and hard before adopting a dog.

I love dogs too. Adore them! I love hanging out with my friends and family who have dogs, I will schedule dates with friends just so I can hang out with their dogs if I haven't seen [the dog] in a bit. So this isn't an anti-dog screed at all.

But often people get dogs and then are surprised to discover: it's not just a ton of work, it can be quite limiting because dogs have lots of needs and can't just go everywhere you go. If you love going out for drinks after work, for instance, I would recommend you not get a dog. Because one of two things will happen. Either you will have to stop doing this thing you enjoy OR you will have to curtail it so that you only go to dog-friendly patios during weather that makes patio drinking okay OR you will become that person who complains endlessly about how not enough bars and restaurants allow dogs and really it's discrimination and your dog is really well-behaved so what's the big deal. Option #3 is super annoying because you don't get to decide what private businesses allow dogs. You should have thought of that before you got a dog. It's not your dogs fault or the bars fault. It's your fault.

And this is the same. Is it super annoying to have to arrange school pick-up around your dog? Yup, sure is! It would be MUCH easier if all kids liked and were not allergic to dogs, and all schools allowed dogs, and all dogs were well-behaved at pick-up, and pick-up was never so crowded that having leashed dogs running around made things tricky. But: that's what school pick up is like. There are kids, including kids who don't like dogs. It's crowded. Some/most schools have explicit rules against dogs on school property (whether they are enforced or not). And so on. It's not the kids's fault, or the school's fault, or the fault of parents/families whose kids are allergic to or afraid of dogs. And it's not the dog's fault! It's your fault.

If you don't like it, don't get a dog. It's real easy. If you have a dog, get ready to deal with the inconvenience of having a dog. The world will only bend to you so much. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the outdoors. It's the dogs natural habitat. Why don't you stop trying to own outside. It's open to squirrels, raccoons, mice, dogs, cats, bears.

You need a chill pill. If your kid is too fragile to see a dog outside, they probably should be home schooled in isolation, or in a special institution for children with special needs.

The dog itself is not natural. It was a wolf and you turned it into a pug. Get over yourself with this nonsense.

My brain hurts now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread exposes why people should think long and hard before adopting a dog.

I love dogs too. Adore them! I love hanging out with my friends and family who have dogs, I will schedule dates with friends just so I can hang out with their dogs if I haven't seen [the dog] in a bit. So this isn't an anti-dog screed at all.

But often people get dogs and then are surprised to discover: it's not just a ton of work, it can be quite limiting because dogs have lots of needs and can't just go everywhere you go. If you love going out for drinks after work, for instance, I would recommend you not get a dog. Because one of two things will happen. Either you will have to stop doing this thing you enjoy OR you will have to curtail it so that you only go to dog-friendly patios during weather that makes patio drinking okay OR you will become that person who complains endlessly about how not enough bars and restaurants allow dogs and really it's discrimination and your dog is really well-behaved so what's the big deal. Option #3 is super annoying because you don't get to decide what private businesses allow dogs. You should have thought of that before you got a dog. It's not your dogs fault or the bars fault. It's your fault.

And this is the same. Is it super annoying to have to arrange school pick-up around your dog? Yup, sure is! It would be MUCH easier if all kids liked and were not allergic to dogs, and all schools allowed dogs, and all dogs were well-behaved at pick-up, and pick-up was never so crowded that having leashed dogs running around made things tricky. But: that's what school pick up is like. There are kids, including kids who don't like dogs. It's crowded. Some/most schools have explicit rules against dogs on school property (whether they are enforced or not). And so on. It's not the kids's fault, or the school's fault, or the fault of parents/families whose kids are allergic to or afraid of dogs. And it's not the dog's fault! It's your fault.

If you don't like it, don't get a dog. It's real easy. If you have a dog, get ready to deal with the inconvenience of having a dog. The world will only bend to you so much. Sorry.

LOL you could literally rewrite this about having kids. Sorry your snowflakes occasionally have to see dogs in the real world. Maybe you shouldn’t have had kids if you couldn’t handle that. See how dumb that sounds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you stay on the street off campus it is fine. If you’re in front of the door, especially with special needs kids and tiny kids and allergic kids etc. you’re really just an entitled jerk. No one wants your mangy mutt there.

What’s with all the rage?

Not op. No rage just very tired of the attention seeking behavior of many dog owners. The dog may be the center of your world but don't assume everyone finds your animal interesting/cute/etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I walk my dog to get my kid and we stand on the playground because that’s where pick up is. I’m not by the doors but I’m on school property. I’d like to see more people walking and less cars blocking everything personally.

If it's a public school, I am certain that dogs are not allowed on school property. The rules just don't apply to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you stay on the street off campus it is fine. If you’re in front of the door, especially with special needs kids and tiny kids and allergic kids etc. you’re really just an entitled jerk. No one wants your mangy mutt there.

What’s with all the rage?

Not op. No rage just very tired of the attention seeking behavior of many dog owners. The dog may be the center of your world but don't assume everyone finds your animal interesting/cute/etc

There are countries where dogs aren't revered.

There, they run in wild packs, and your uber fragile family might not make it far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I walk my dog to get my kid and we stand on the playground because that’s where pick up is. I’m not by the doors but I’m on school property. I’d like to see more people walking and less cars blocking everything personally.

A dog on a leash ran about 8 feet today to try to jump on my 6 year old as we were leaving the school to walk home. If you are going to bring your dog, please don’t let it try to jump on kids, even if the dog is on a leash. Can any lawyers out there tell me who’s rights prevail—my child’s right to leave school property without being accosted by a leashed dog, or a dog owner’s right to bring the dog onto school property? I haven’t complained to the school yet, but I have a hard time believing dog owners don’t know that their dogs will try to jump on kids. In this case, I placed myself between my daughter and the dog, and the owner jerked the leash back, but not before the dog tried to sniff my crotch.

Sounds like you need a shower or change of pants.

I'm not afraid to create a scene. I would have kneed your dog in the chest or kicked it and dared you to do anything about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread exposes why people should think long and hard before adopting a dog.

I love dogs too. Adore them! I love hanging out with my friends and family who have dogs, I will schedule dates with friends just so I can hang out with their dogs if I haven't seen [the dog] in a bit. So this isn't an anti-dog screed at all.

But often people get dogs and then are surprised to discover: it's not just a ton of work, it can be quite limiting because dogs have lots of needs and can't just go everywhere you go. If you love going out for drinks after work, for instance, I would recommend you not get a dog. Because one of two things will happen. Either you will have to stop doing this thing you enjoy OR you will have to curtail it so that you only go to dog-friendly patios during weather that makes patio drinking okay OR you will become that person who complains endlessly about how not enough bars and restaurants allow dogs and really it's discrimination and your dog is really well-behaved so what's the big deal. Option #3 is super annoying because you don't get to decide what private businesses allow dogs. You should have thought of that before you got a dog. It's not your dogs fault or the bars fault. It's your fault.

And this is the same. Is it super annoying to have to arrange school pick-up around your dog? Yup, sure is! It would be MUCH easier if all kids liked and were not allergic to dogs, and all schools allowed dogs, and all dogs were well-behaved at pick-up, and pick-up was never so crowded that having leashed dogs running around made things tricky. But: that's what school pick up is like. There are kids, including kids who don't like dogs. It's crowded. Some/most schools have explicit rules against dogs on school property (whether they are enforced or not). And so on. It's not the kids's fault, or the school's fault, or the fault of parents/families whose kids are allergic to or afraid of dogs. And it's not the dog's fault! It's your fault.

If you don't like it, don't get a dog. It's real easy. If you have a dog, get ready to deal with the inconvenience of having a dog. The world will only bend to you so much. Sorry.

LOL you could literally rewrite this about having kids. Sorry your snowflakes occasionally have to see dogs in the real world. Maybe you shouldn’t have had kids if you couldn’t handle that. See how dumb that sounds?

That's true... except the one place you should definitely be allowed to bring your kids is a school. The kids are NOT the snowflakes in this situation. Schools don't exist for dogs to go to. But they do literally exist for kids.

Do you realize how dumb you sound? What is so hard about just not bringing your dog to a place that isn't really designed for your dog at all? I don't take my baby on roller coasters or to night clubs, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. Our school does not have this policy and lots of people bring their dogs. However, I’ve never seen one unleashed or poorly behaved. Drop off/pick up is outside on the field though, not a single narrow doorway.

I do not believe you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the outdoors. It's the dogs natural habitat. Why don't you stop trying to own outside. It's open to squirrels, raccoons, mice, dogs, cats, bears.

You need a chill pill. If your kid is too fragile to see a dog outside, they probably should be home schooled in isolation, or in a special institution for children with special needs.

You are uneducated and low class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you stay on the street off campus it is fine. If you’re in front of the door, especially with special needs kids and tiny kids and allergic kids etc. you’re really just an entitled jerk. No one wants your mangy mutt there.

What’s with all the rage?

Not op. No rage just very tired of the attention seeking behavior of many dog owners. The dog may be the center of your world but don't assume everyone finds your animal interesting/cute/etc

There are countries where dogs aren't revered.

There, they run in wild packs, and your uber fragile family might not make it far.

You are a psycho. Get therapy.