Stop bringing your dog to elementary pick up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

I think the issue is that there is one troll poster who is riling up the argument by being very heated against animals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

I think the issue is that there is one troll poster who is riling up the argument by being very heated against animals.

This is definitely false. I’ve posted once or twice agreeing with the original poster but tons of other people have also. People are so insane about their dogs that it pushes those of us who are on the other side even further that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sports are starting up again and despite signs saying no dogs on school property, there they are, on the sidelines, scaring and distracting kids whose families have paid for these activities. So unbelievably disgusting and inconsiderate.

Unless the owner is letting them off of the leash to run around on the field, dogs are not scary or a distraction. Plus, its usually people bringing retrievers and labs to sports practice, not some sort of aggressive pit bull. Stop projecting your issues onto your children. Humans and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, it is extremely unnatural for a child to be scared of dogs unless there is a dog bite issue involved. Have you ever seen toddlers playing with puppies? It’s amazing, the two go hand in hand. You might be from a culture where dogs aren’t liked because there are issues with aggressive street dogs, but the US is a dog country so get used to it.

This is such bs. I never really had much of an opinion on dogs or dog-people until a lady essentially mocked my young daughter for being scared of her dog that rushed up and jumped on her at a playground. This was years ago, but the entitlement I’ve witnessed since then has just gotten worse and worse. There are some dogs I like and plenty of lovely, responsible dog owners I know in real life, but some of you nut jobs are really ruining it for the rest of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

Around here, self-important people do what they want, because there are rarely consequences. DC area people are meek, so they don’t know how to deal with others who aren’t such rules-followers.

In counterpoint, where my parents live in rural Virginia, if someone let their dogs go onto another person’s property and those dogs threatened people or livestock, the property owner would be well within their rights to shoot the dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

Around here, self-important people do what they want, because there are rarely consequences. DC area people are meek, so they don’t know how to deal with others who aren’t such rules-followers.

In counterpoint, where my parents live in rural Virginia, if someone let their dogs go onto another person’s property and those dogs threatened people or livestock, the property owner would be well within their rights to shoot the dogs.

I mean, I've never heard of a self proclaimed cop explicitly threatening people for hypothetically laughing at them. But who knows.

As for your rural Virginia anecdote. Sure, but the key word is threaten and the only threatening behavior we've seen described on this thread came from the self-proclaimed cop. Of course those same rural Virginians would also be well within their rights to shoot a person that threatens their dog with bodily harm.

But hey, what do I know, I'm still perplexed by the self proclaimed cop openly threatening people and fantasizing about committing crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

I think the issue is that there is one troll poster who is riling up the argument by being very heated against animals.

This is definitely false. I’ve posted once or twice agreeing with the original poster but tons of other people have also. People are so insane about their dogs that it pushes those of us who are on the other side even further that way.

You can’t disagree though that there is one poster who is viciously against animals. That lady really makes me wonder, she’s got a lot of anger in her heart. Don’t know if she was bitten by a dog or what, but she takes it to a whole new level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

I think the issue is that there is one troll poster who is riling up the argument by being very heated against animals.

This is definitely false. I’ve posted once or twice agreeing with the original poster but tons of other people have also. People are so insane about their dogs that it pushes those of us who are on the other side even further that way.

You can’t disagree though that there is one poster who is viciously against animals. That lady really makes me wonder, she’s got a lot of anger in her heart. Don’t know if she was bitten by a dog or what, but she takes it to a whole new level.

I agree there is one anti-dog poster who is oddly (and ironically) rabid.

And there are a number of dog owners who are surprisingly hostile towards children and neighbors. The entitlement is astounding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

I think the issue is that there is one troll poster who is riling up the argument by being very heated against animals.

This is definitely false. I’ve posted once or twice agreeing with the original poster but tons of other people have also. People are so insane about their dogs that it pushes those of us who are on the other side even further that way.

You can’t disagree though that there is one poster who is viciously against animals. That lady really makes me wonder, she’s got a lot of anger in her heart. Don’t know if she was bitten by a dog or what, but she takes it to a whole new level.

I agree there is one anti-dog poster who is oddly (and ironically) rabid.

And there are a number of dog owners who are surprisingly hostile towards children and neighbors. The entitlement is astounding.

Agreed. Both sides need to relax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you stay on the street off campus it is fine. If you’re in front of the door, especially with special needs kids and tiny kids and allergic kids etc. you’re really just an entitled jerk. No one wants your mangy mutt there.

I am an animal lover and some are service dogs. But there are others and I agree with you that they sometimes feel entitiled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

Around here, self-important people do what they want, because there are rarely consequences. DC area people are meek, so they don’t know how to deal with others who aren’t such rules-followers.

In counterpoint, where my parents live in rural Virginia, if someone let their dogs go onto another person’s property and those dogs threatened people or livestock, the property owner would be well within their rights to shoot the dogs.

I mean, I've never heard of a self proclaimed cop explicitly threatening people for hypothetically laughing at them. But who knows.

As for your rural Virginia anecdote. Sure, but the key word is threaten and the only threatening behavior we've seen described on this thread came from the self-proclaimed cop. Of course those same rural Virginians would also be well within their rights to shoot a person that threatens their dog with bodily harm.

But hey, what do I know, I'm still perplexed by the self proclaimed cop openly threatening people and fantasizing about committing crimes.

The DMW is populated by self-important people and control freaks.

No, you don’t really have the right to expect that no one bring their dog near your school (school grounds are different). On the other side, you don’t have the right to expect your dog to be welcome all places, at all times.

And I think a lot of dog owners around here forget that dogs are animals, rather than “fur babies.” Your dog is, and should be, secondary to humans, especially kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well this went off the rails. Why can’t people be courteous? If I had a dog, I would not have it near the front of an entrance when it’s not allowed. Why may it not be allowed? Kids may be scared, have allergies, if your dog jumps on someone it could be an issue, etc. It doesn’t take any effort to stay back a bit.

Around here, self-important people do what they want, because there are rarely consequences. DC area people are meek, so they don’t know how to deal with others who aren’t such rules-followers.

In counterpoint, where my parents live in rural Virginia, if someone let their dogs go onto another person’s property and those dogs threatened people or livestock, the property owner would be well within their rights to shoot the dogs.

I mean, I've never heard of a self proclaimed cop explicitly threatening people for hypothetically laughing at them. But who knows.

As for your rural Virginia anecdote. Sure, but the key word is threaten and the only threatening behavior we've seen described on this thread came from the self-proclaimed cop. Of course those same rural Virginians would also be well within their rights to shoot a person that threatens their dog with bodily harm.

But hey, what do I know, I'm still perplexed by the self proclaimed cop openly threatening people and fantasizing about committing crimes.

The DMW is populated by self-important people and control freaks.

No, you don’t really have the right to expect that no one bring their dog near your school (school grounds are different). On the other side, you don’t have the right to expect your dog to be welcome all places, at all times.

And I think a lot of dog owners around here forget that dogs are animals, rather than “fur babies.” Your dog is, and should be, secondary to humans, especially kids.

Like the rabid anti-dog self proclaimed Fairfax cop.

Sure, dogs are secondary to humans but that doesn't mean that they can be abused or that everything should cater to the extreme haters among us. It's a balance and a lot depends on the type of dog one is talking about. Most of the dog owners I know are pretty courteous about these things. I have never seen anything like the exaggerated tales breathlessly described here of pitbull fights at the school doors. There are always a few assholes in any group, just like that supposed cop, but those people are also assholes to other dogs. It's not a dmv or dog thing at all. Some people just suck.

[Anonymous]

Dog owners who have well behaved dogs or controlled dogs are fine. Dog owners who have "playful" dogs who they do not or can not control or use those retractable leashes are the problem. If you can bring your dog and your dog will stay by your side and not wander more than 6 feet from you and will listen to your commands, then you are fine.

The problem is that the number of dog owners who either do not have control of their dog or don't even know how to control their dog except to yank on the leash/collar are the problems. Especially during the pandemic, you now have a ton of dog owners who have untrained dogs that they cannot control and they are inflaming the situation. They are making non-dog owners more afraid and they are giving responsible dog owners a bad name. The dog owners that do not have full control of their pets, need to leave them home. The ones that can control their pets can bring them places that are not explicitly exempt (like school property with posted signs). In the last few years, the number of irresponsible and entitled dog owners have exploded and that is why the sides are getting more extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dog owners who have well behaved dogs or controlled dogs are fine. Dog owners who have "playful" dogs who they do not or can not control or use those retractable leashes are the problem. If you can bring your dog and your dog will stay by your side and not wander more than 6 feet from you and will listen to your commands, then you are fine.

The problem is that the number of dog owners who either do not have control of their dog or don't even know how to control their dog except to yank on the leash/collar are the problems. Especially during the pandemic, you now have a ton of dog owners who have untrained dogs that they cannot control and they are inflaming the situation. They are making non-dog owners more afraid and they are giving responsible dog owners a bad name. The dog owners that do not have full control of their pets, need to leave them home. The ones that can control their pets can bring them places that are not explicitly exempt (like school property with posted signs). In the last few years, the number of irresponsible and entitled dog owners have exploded and that is why the sides are getting more extreme.

Agreed with this. Also, some breeds I never want to see near kids. If youve got a pit bull, leave that thing at home. A golden retriever is fine. Before anyone chimes in with “there are no bad dogs, only bad owners”, no Karen, that’s not how it works. Nobody’s shih tzu has ever eaten grandma before.

[Anonymous]

Sure and I assume you'll agree that it is never justifiable to attempt to injure a dog that is not attacking someone and that we shouldn't cater to or give the time of day to the hysterics of self-important control freaks with irrational fear and hatred. Also, that that "cop" shouldnt be allowed to carry a gun or a badge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sports are starting up again and despite signs saying no dogs on school property, there they are, on the sidelines, scaring and distracting kids whose families have paid for these activities. So unbelievably disgusting and inconsiderate.

Unless the owner is letting them off of the leash to run around on the field, dogs are not scary or a distraction. Plus, its usually people bringing retrievers and labs to sports practice, not some sort of aggressive pit bull. Stop projecting your issues onto your children. Humans and dogs have lived together for thousands of years, it is extremely unnatural for a child to be scared of dogs unless there is a dog bite issue involved. Have you ever seen toddlers playing with puppies? It’s amazing, the two go hand in hand. You might be from a culture where dogs aren’t liked because there are issues with aggressive street dogs, but the US is a dog country so get used to it.

So many things wrong with the above statement. Dogs are always a distraction. Whether you are scared of them or not. Most people love to watch dogs. Plenty of times families have brought their big dogs to t-ball and little league and allowed them off leash. Dogs running around in the dugout, among other families, and in the outfield. I don't need your dog trying to be friendly while I'm watching the game or running up to my kids. I have one kid afraid (never been bit) and one that wants to go pet it. I would never let my kids pet a dog I don't know unless the owner says its ok and only if I'm right there. So many of you act like a dog can't just snap without warning or as a result of something you didn't realize or fully understand. My parents had a dog who spent a lot of team with two teenage family members. He seemed to care for them and the girls liked spending time with him. One time, he was in the car and the girls were going to get in when he started growling at them from inside the car. Luckily, my parents were watching all of this and calmed him. Why did he growl at people he knows well? No one knows. But, it can happen to the best of dogs.
I'm as American as they come and your mentality of "get used to it" is ridiculous. I like dogs, but why should I get used to something that's not supposed to be there (school)? You are forcing your will on other people and think its ok. Never mind that its not legal in many counties?