why do parents sign up for a giant ECNL roster (Mclean 2006 has 28 players)

[Anonymous]

Large clubs around the country do this. Who hates this? Bench players who get nervous about the composite and at a smaller
club with out a huge pool they wouldn’t have to think of this. If someone doesn’t like this and some do not then there are so many clubs. Hope this was helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anyone can justify anything. I personally would never do it…but again, I don’t write them checks so I will mind my own.

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good idea!

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are not joining a large team. 18 kids are rostered each game. The other 10 or 11 play another game. Why do it? Opportunity to train with top players and maybe your border player improves and takes someone’s spot. Also they are listed on the roster so can use that for their own marketing at college showcases. This is much better than not being part of an ECNl program. Makes perfect sense.

Thank you. This does make sense. Is your explanation true for all ECNL teams with large rosters? Do all ECNL teams have the situation where those that don't suit up for the ECNL game gets to play in some other game? I'm thinking what if your kid was on a team with 22 kids and there wasn't a 2nd game? The dress 18 and 4 are ineligible each week. What are your thoughts on this type of situation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because they are not joining a large team. 18 kids are rostered each game. The other 10 or 11 play another game. Why do it? Opportunity to train with top players and maybe your border player improves and takes someone’s spot. Also they are listed on the roster so can use that for their own marketing at college showcases. This is much better than not being part of an ECNl program. Makes perfect sense.

Why do you say that? Suit yourself but if the goal is college play...first look at the type of programs where the lower level ecnl players end up playing and examine those college rosters. You will find that for every ecnl player at that college level, there is another player from that took a different approach and path. So be informed before your player makes a choice. Ecnl us fine but many of the lower level players end up on the same rosters with players from other leagues.

[Anonymous]

Where is the link to the rosters?
Interesting to see who left which clubs for new clubs ECNL to MLS Next and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

I think this set up is much better than being number 22 and not play or dress or number 18 and wear a uniform and go to game to sit. Some parents only care about the uniform. Many teams around the country do Academy style with a large roster. This is not for everyone though because you do have to defend your spot and for some just being on the team is enough. Those bench parents seem worse than the parents of the stars. I do think most teams around here allow a player with not a lot of minutes to play on the club second team. You have to be open to that if you want your child to develop You would have to ask your club. I am not from around here originally and find the parents here really aggressive and mean with the conduct. This is something that has bothered spouse and I.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is the link to the rosters?
Interesting to see who left which clubs for new clubs ECNL to MLS Next and vice versa.

Do you memorize rosters every year? How would you possibly know who is new or not?

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I thought it was a little crazy. Teammates all know. I am not helping anyone stalk on an internet site. In this day and age it is concerning.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^^ there have been years where McLean has sent 20+ seniors to play college soccer. You are right that McLean does not have a track record of sending non-ECNL players to college but McLean has never had a team like MSI White that just moved over to McLean and was coached by Nadir. That team has beaten McLean, Bethesda and Loudoun and other top teams in the area and has at least a dozen girls capable of playing at the next level. MSI parents had the choice of going to a non-McLean ECNL team or keep the team together and move to McLean ro remain with Nadir. Some of the top players on the team were already playing McLean ECNL and others will have the opportunity to do so while others will play on the Composite where they will showcase at the top non-ECNL showcases. Given Nadir’s reputation among and connection to college coaches, moving to McLean is not a bad place. Are the players guaranteed college recruiting? No but clearly you can recognize that the opportunity is there.

This too. I haven't seen the crazy thread about pre-season scrimmages yet... but the composite team did beat VDA 05 ECNL pretty easily...

That was mostly ECNL starters, not composite, that beat VDA 7-1

not the week before when they beat them 3-1...

So VDA ECNL lost to both McLean ECNL team and McLean composite team?

So did McLean 03/04 really lose 6-0 to VDA ?

Yes

PP said that McLean fielded 05 team against 03/04 VDA team.

[Anonymous]

Clearly, If 35+ parents with plenty of options that are within 45 minutes are willing to join McLean then their most be value in it for them. I am not a McLean parent but do know Nadir and some of the McLean and MSI parents. This was a great idea.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^^ there have been years where McLean has sent 20+ seniors to play college soccer. You are right that McLean does not have a track record of sending non-ECNL players to college but McLean has never had a team like MSI White that just moved over to McLean and was coached by Nadir. That team has beaten McLean, Bethesda and Loudoun and other top teams in the area and has at least a dozen girls capable of playing at the next level. MSI parents had the choice of going to a non-McLean ECNL team or keep the team together and move to McLean ro remain with Nadir. Some of the top players on the team were already playing McLean ECNL and others will have the opportunity to do so while others will play on the Composite where they will showcase at the top non-ECNL showcases. Given Nadir’s reputation among and connection to college coaches, moving to McLean is not a bad place. Are the players guaranteed college recruiting? No but clearly you can recognize that the opportunity is there.

This too. I haven't seen the crazy thread about pre-season scrimmages yet... but the composite team did beat VDA 05 ECNL pretty easily...

That was mostly ECNL starters, not composite, that beat VDA 7-1

not the week before when they beat them 3-1...

So VDA ECNL lost to both McLean ECNL team and McLean composite team?

So did McLean 03/04 really lose 6-0 to VDA ?

Yes

PP said that McLean fielded 05 team against 03/04 VDA team.

So here’s reality:

Two weekends ago, a combined group of McLean 05/04/03s played VDA 04/03 and lost 5-1.

Last weekend McLean 04/03 played VDA 04/03 and lost 6-0(?).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was a little crazy. Teammates all know. I am not helping anyone stalk on an internet site. In this day and age it is concerning.

I think player movement is tracked all the time by coaches, clubs. college recruiting coordinators. I dont think its a stalking issue at all. The same parent that thinks its a privacy issue would be the first to brag and put it out everywhere if their DC was being tracked by a high level college team.

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Anonymous wrote:Because they are not joining a large team. 18 kids are rostered each game. The other 10 or 11 play another game. Why do it? Opportunity to train with top players and maybe your border player improves and takes someone’s spot. Also they are listed on the roster so can use that for their own marketing at college showcases. This is much better than not being part of an ECNl program. Makes perfect sense.

Thank you. This does make sense. Is your explanation true for all ECNL teams with large rosters? Do all ECNL teams have the situation where those that don't suit up for the ECNL game gets to play in some other game? I'm thinking what if your kid was on a team with 22 kids and there wasn't a 2nd game? The dress 18 and 4 are ineligible each week. What are your thoughts on this type of situation?

At the HS age group, most teams tend to carry more because kids are busier doing other things... especially when players on a team might be from MD, DC, or private schools and HS seasons vary. You assume 4 are "ineligible" to roster 18, but there may be a high likelihood of 4 of 22 unavailable due to other commitments or injuries. My daughter's team only rostered 16 last year for U16 age group and didn't have enough kids to play some weekends by the end of the spring... so there's also that reason behind a "large" roster for HS age kids.

[Anonymous]

We now have 21 (with 3 dual rostered with next team down) on the roster, but 5 are injured. I like 18 permanent with ability to have part time or developmental players that typically play on other teams but can play up on ECNL when needed. Anything over low 20s is a bit silly however. The league could address this by limiting roster sizes. Either way, only 18 can be rostered for a match.