Post-Varsity Blues, where do the UC send their kids if they end up being average academically?

[Anonymous]

Denison was the place for the wealthy non-students at my DC high school. I think Sewanee has the same vibe for the south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Hmm...probably depends on the family and area of the country? And political/religious leanings? I can't see most parents of a bottom-of-the-class Sidwell or GDS kid being all too enthused about Alabama or Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Arkansas or LSU. I feel like those kids are more likely to go to like...Denison.

Denison has a 29% acceptance rate. Bottom of the class (even at Sidwell or GDS) isn't guaranteed to get in there anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Hmm...probably depends on the family and area of the country? And political/religious leanings? I can't see most parents of a bottom-of-the-class Sidwell or GDS kid being all too enthused about Alabama or Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Arkansas or LSU. I feel like those kids are more likely to go to like...Denison.

Denison has a 29% acceptance rate. Bottom of the class (even at Sidwell or GDS) isn't guaranteed to get in there anymore.

What you’re missing is that’s the average between RD and ED. For ED it’s much higher. Add in test optional + attending boarding schools that don’t do class rank (my public high school would put on your transcript whether you were ranked #1 or #500) and it’s not hard to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Denison was the place for the wealthy non-students at my DC high school. I think Sewanee has the same vibe for the south.

Dennison and Sewannee aren't exactly "elite" schools that UMC parents brag about sending their kids to, but they aren't for "non students" either. Every graduate I've met from either school I've been impressed with. And Dennison has actually become highly selective as its number of applicants has surged. Sewannee's applicant pool is limited by the school's location - you either love it or hate it - so is more self selective. The point is, these are not schools for rich dumb slackers. Think High Point, U of Tampa, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m saying what if a UC kid gets a 1100 SAT and is a C student. What do they do in 2021?

If you are really that well-off then your kids probably aren't ever going to get C's. The concept of the "gentleman's C" grade is in the distant past. All a wealthy parent has to do is get tutors to have the tutor do the work for their child, help their child, or pressure the private school into giving B's . Or they are having their child assessed and getting accommodations if they start getting C's. So maybe the wealthy parent can't increase the SAT score if their child really is average, but they can absolutely influence grades.

Thanks for the most unhelpful answer on this thread. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Hmm...probably depends on the family and area of the country? And political/religious leanings? I can't see most parents of a bottom-of-the-class Sidwell or GDS kid being all too enthused about Alabama or Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Arkansas or LSU. I feel like those kids are more likely to go to like...Denison.

Denison has a 29% acceptance rate. Bottom of the class (even at Sidwell or GDS) isn't guaranteed to get in there anymore.

What you’re missing is that’s the average between RD and ED. For ED it’s much higher. Add in test optional + attending boarding schools that don’t do class rank (my public high school would put on your transcript whether you were ranked #1 or #500) and it’s not hard to understand.

PP you're responding to, and I'm not missing anything. I went to a boarding school that "didn't rank", which means that they did rank, they just didn't tell us our exact rank, nor did they tell colleges. But they would give a range, or a chart of GPA vs. rank percentiles. I know I was in the top half, but not the top quarter of the class, and I guarantee that colleges knew that as well. And test optional means that grades matter *more*, not less, so it's not really helpful for a kid with mediocre grades.

Also, I know no one who is going to a school like Sidwell or GDS who is using their one shot at ED on... Denison.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people on here can’t grasp that ED is only available to rich kids and is a massive advantage over doing RD.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people on here can’t stay on topic.

[Anonymous]

The answer to the question is they end up going to a CTCL college.

*ducks*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answer to the question is they end up going to a CTCL college.

*ducks*

No they don’t. The really rich ones “arrange” to go to higher ranked schools than most of those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people on here can’t grasp that ED is only available to rich kids and is a massive advantage over doing RD.

This overstates it. Systematic studies have found that it confers a 1-2% advantage. You can't look at acceptance rates or how much of a class is filled ED, you have to look at admitted student profiles. Schools ED know that every nearly student they accept will attend. For RD, they might accept 10x the number of students who will enroll based on their yield calculations. Increasingly schools are offering merit aid/FA decisions at ED to offset the perception that it is only for those who are rich and have special merit programs tied to ED for low-income.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Hmm...probably depends on the family and area of the country? And political/religious leanings? I can't see most parents of a bottom-of-the-class Sidwell or GDS kid being all too enthused about Alabama or Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Arkansas or LSU. I feel like those kids are more likely to go to like...Denison.

Denison has a 29% acceptance rate. Bottom of the class (even at Sidwell or GDS) isn't guaranteed to get in there anymore.

What you’re missing is that’s the average between RD and ED. For ED it’s much higher. Add in test optional + attending boarding schools that don’t do class rank (my public high school would put on your transcript whether you were ranked #1 or #500) and it’s not hard to understand.

PP you're responding to, and I'm not missing anything. I went to a boarding school that "didn't rank", which means that they did rank, they just didn't tell us our exact rank, nor did they tell colleges. But they would give a range, or a chart of GPA vs. rank percentiles. I know I was in the top half, but not the top quarter of the class, and I guarantee that colleges knew that as well. And test optional means that grades matter *more*, not less, so it's not really helpful for a kid with mediocre grades.

Also, I know no one who is going to a school like Sidwell or GDS who is using their one shot at ED on... Denison.

This acceptance rate is meaningless without the of the actual profile of admitted students. Don't keep trying to confuse people. Low acceptance rates only matter if the profile is equally selective. Otherwise it's just a popular safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of kids of the UC who attended unremarkable schools I hadn’t heard of. The idea that they’re all buying prestige admissions is wrong and actually reflects your UMC view of the world.

This!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people on here can’t grasp that ED is only available to rich kids and is a massive advantage over doing RD.

Not really, if they don’t offer the same package their site estimates, you just back out. Granted we’re a public school family, so we won’t have embarrassed counselors or administrators to care about

[Anonymous]

At least one of Joe Scarborough's kids went to UAlabama. Tucker Carlson's kids were NE boarding school alums who all went to UVa. Sean Hannity's kids, who grew up on Long Island's gold coast, ended up at Wake Forest and UMich. As most know, Obama's youngest daughter is at UMich.

The rich generally don't care about rankings. It's MC status-obsessed wannabes who obsess over their kid getting into an "elite" college. And of course the true core of the fantasy is their unwashed kid dating and marrying a wealthy peer. It's no wonder why the rich are so skittish around MC interlopers.