Post-Varsity Blues, where do the UC send their kids if they end up being average academically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I once would have said NYU, Boston U, CU Boulder or USC but no more.

Chapman
Santa Clara?
Gettysburg College

CU Boulder is easier to get into than Santa Clara and maybe even Gettysburg.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The UC don't use the "side door," like in Varsity Blues.

They just give big dollar donations directly to the school in exchange for admission, aka "the front door."

What made Varsity Blues so bad was that the schools were victims of the fraud. People were getting in for a lot cheaper than the "front door" method.

Personally, I think federal funding should be suspended for any university that considers legacy or donations in its admissions process.

Donations fund the universities, allowing them to support high-achieving low-income students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The UC don't use the "side door," like in Varsity Blues.

They just give big dollar donations directly to the school in exchange for admission, aka "the front door."

What made Varsity Blues so bad was that the schools were victims of the fraud. People were getting in for a lot cheaper than the "front door" method.

Personally, I think federal funding should be suspended for any university that considers legacy or donations in its admissions process.

+ 1

Jared Kushner is below average academically. His doucebag criminal father gave $2.5 million. He remained a below average student and human.

Not in that order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m saying what if a UC kid gets a 1100 SAT and is a C student. What do they do in 2021?

If you are really that well-off then your kids probably aren't ever going to get C's. The concept of the "gentleman's C" grade is in the distant past. All a wealthy parent has to do is get tutors to have the tutor do the work for their child, help their child, or pressure the private school into giving B's . Or they are having their child assessed and getting accommodations if they start getting C's. So maybe the wealthy parent can't increase the SAT score if their child really is average, but they can absolutely influence grades.

Yeah they do. Gone are the days where parents can pay the way in for a C student. A/B students, definitely yes. There are a host of schools that cater to well-heeled ne'er-do-wells. The families understand that their young Paysons and Sloanes are not going to go to Wharton or Harvard Law; the goal is to send the kid to college and get a degree as an accessory. The kids will join the family business or be set up with some vanity project, while in reality, they live off trust funds and allowances. DC attends one of these types of schools; chose it because of a competitive program and tons of financial aid sweetened the pot. DC is astounded by the amount of disposable wealth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m saying what if a UC kid gets a 1100 SAT and is a C student. What do they do in 2021?

I have an average student. He got mainly B and C grades. He only received an A in PE and some other electives he was able to pick. Core classes, the ones he was required to take for graduation that he had zero interest in, he received a C. Those he had a bit of interest in, like history, he'd get a B.

Anyway, his SAT was just slightly higher than that at 1240. He hates taking long standardized tests. His GPA when applying was 2.3 and his end of the year GPA was 2.4.

Here are the colleges he applied to and the results:

JMU (waitlisted - he didn't want to go here, but his girlfriend wanted him to apply b/c she's going there)
GMU (waitlisted then accepted)
WVU - accepted
CNU - accepted
ODU - accepted
LSU - accepted
Pitt - accepted
Univ. of Kansas - accepted
Co. State Univ. - accepted
FSU (his reach) - rejected

So, as you can see, there are still some decent universities for average students.

OP - very helpful - TY for sharing.

What? I’m the actual OP. Lol.

Ooops, typo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

[Anonymous]

In addition to many schools already mentioned (+1 for Rollins, Miami OH, and Indiana), some people send their dumb rich kids to places like Lesley University or St. Mary's (the idea being that their child might snag a spouse at nearby Harvard or Notre Dame). Or someplace overseas that sounds glamorous but isn't very selective, like American University of Paris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition to many schools already mentioned (+1 for Rollins, Miami OH, and Indiana), some people send their dumb rich kids to places like Lesley University or St. Mary's (the idea being that their child might snag a spouse at nearby Harvard or Notre Dame). Or someplace overseas that sounds glamorous but isn't very selective, like American University of Paris.

Yep. In Boston area there’s Simmons, Emmanuel, Emerson, Suffolk and others I can’t remember. Same idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Miami has become difficult to get accepted. I think the acceptance rate is in the 20s or low 30s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Also Baylor, Rhodes, U of Denver

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I once would have said NYU, Boston U, CU Boulder or USC but no more.

Chapman
Santa Clara?
Gettysburg College

CU Boulder is easier to get into than Santa Clara and maybe even Gettysburg.

+1 CU Boulder literally has an 84% acceptance rate...it's ridiculously easy to get in. And yes, there are hordes of dumb, rich kids there. Santa Clara has actually gotten fairly competitive over the years (still plenty of average kids there tho). Yes on Chapman being a haven for the Olivia Jades of the world. Gettysburg...eh. Yes lots of rich kids but I think most kids there are actually decently smart/care about school and academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Also Baylor, Rhodes, U of Denver

CU Boulder
Arizona
Indiana
Miami of Ohio
Iowa (surprisingly--maybe not around here as much, but I grew up in the ritzy Chicago suburbs...New Trier...and there were soooo many kids from the north shore at Iowa)
Michigan State (see above)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably outdated here on some of these but here’s some wild guesses:

UMiami
Tulane
GWU
Syracuse
Hobart and William Smith
Connecticut College
U of Vermont
Trinity College
Penn State
Hampden-Sydney
Mount Holyoke

Tulane had an admit rate for the '25 class of 9.73%. They dropped their honors college because the caliber of student is growing by leaps and bounds.

Tulane's SATs look really stellar, but they became SAT optional a few years ago--any word on how many student actually submit SATs there?

This list is dead on for “schools rich families won’t be embarrassed to send their kids. Add all SEC schools, Sewanee, UC Boulder TCU and SMU - lots of different levels of students at these schools with a rich undercurrent.

Hmm...probably depends on the family and area of the country? And political/religious leanings? I can't see most parents of a bottom-of-the-class Sidwell or GDS kid being all too enthused about Alabama or Mississippi State or Ole Miss or Arkansas or LSU. I feel like those kids are more likely to go to like...Denison.