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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


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Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."
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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.


No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”


And if you don’t believe me about no young child is wearing a mask correctly and consistently, take a look at the below to see how the CDC defines that - this is a linked page in the exception so meant to apply here.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/effective-masks.html



So how about we stop punishing the kids and unmask them. Other parts of the country and private schools have done this successfully. Masks were never meant to be worn 6-8 hours at a time.

What did Beauvoir do last year? Maybe they wore masks. But they quietly stayed open all year without incident. Before vaccinations.


Yes, they did. They opened - fully masked all day long. You can look it up.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.


Why make a distinction between the two?
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.


Why make a distinction between the two?


Punishment.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.


Why make a distinction between the two?


Good grief, PP, you are struggling.

1) Because DCPS hasn't issued its instructions yet to schools about virtual learning for positive tests.
2) Because people can control their travel. For a school like Lafayette which is huge and has a demographic where people take nice vacations out of the area, they are saying they are not going to give your kid special schooling because you travelled the last week before school. The take away is: Follow the travel restrictions or expect your kid to miss school.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.

That's why in areas and times of high virus circulation, school-based virtual access is necessary.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.

That's why in areas and times of high virus circulation, school-based virtual access is necessary.


Or rather an intelligent testing strategy that allows kids to be in school.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.

That's why in areas and times of high virus circulation, school-based virtual access is necessary.


Or rather an intelligent testing strategy that allows kids to be in school.

Yes, AND, not or.
Virtual is a one-layer solution for those kids.
But for in-school learning, you need each of the 4 or 5 necessary layers fully implemented without ridiculous exceptions/opt-outs/'when feasible'.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.


Why make a distinction between the two?


Good grief, PP, you are struggling.

1) Because DCPS hasn't issued its instructions yet to schools about virtual learning for positive tests.
2) Because people can control their travel. For a school like Lafayette which is huge and has a demographic where people take nice vacations out of the area, they are saying they are not going to give your kid special schooling because you travelled the last week before school. The take away is: Follow the travel restrictions or expect your kid to miss school.


No, I am not. I do not know what the guidance will be, but I can't see why there would be a difference in the offering of virtual or other instruction between a child who was potentially exposed locally and a child who was potentially exposed during travel except for punitive reasons.

Let's assume there is some framework for providing instruction at all to a child that was exposed locally, when a whole class does not need to be quarantined. Two children are exposed on the same day.

Child A is exposed locally. This child is under 12 and unvaccinated. Presumably the child is not personally at fault for the exposure. The parents do the right thing and quarantine the child at home. Child receives some sort of instruction (virtual? packets? I do not know), because there is a framework to do so.

Child B is exposed during travel. This child is also under 12 and unvaccinated. As children this young typically do not make decisions to travel, the child is presumably not at fault for the exposure. The parents do the right thing and quarantine the child at home. Child does not receive any sort of instruction, despite the fact that there is a framework to do so.

Child B will be quarantined in any case; the parents will "have to" do child care whether or not the child receives instruction. In this scenario, not providing instruction hurts only the child and not the apparently bad and wrong parents who traveled.

Such a policy would not punish bad-behaving parents. It would punish children.
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Of course, all of this assumes there will be some structure for providing instruction in cases of local exposure.
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Probably someone will argue that children should indeed be punished for their parents' choices. It's not an uncommon argument here.
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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.


Which school


Lafayette


Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.


she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.


No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."


Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....


But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.


We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.


Why make a distinction between the two?


Good grief, PP, you are struggling.

1) Because DCPS hasn't issued its instructions yet to schools about virtual learning for positive tests.
2) Because people can control their travel. For a school like Lafayette which is huge and has a demographic where people take nice vacations out of the area, they are saying they are not going to give your kid special schooling because you travelled the last week before school. The take away is: Follow the travel restrictions or expect your kid to miss school.


No, I am not. I do not know what the guidance will be, but I can't see why there would be a difference in the offering of virtual or other instruction between a child who was potentially exposed locally and a child who was potentially exposed during travel except for punitive reasons.

Let's assume there is some framework for providing instruction at all to a child that was exposed locally, when a whole class does not need to be quarantined. Two children are exposed on the same day.

Child A is exposed locally. This child is under 12 and unvaccinated. Presumably the child is not personally at fault for the exposure. The parents do the right thing and quarantine the child at home. Child receives some sort of instruction (virtual? packets? I do not know), because there is a framework to do so.

Child B is exposed during travel. This child is also under 12 and unvaccinated. As children this young typically do not make decisions to travel, the child is presumably not at fault for the exposure. The parents do the right thing and quarantine the child at home. Child does not receive any sort of instruction, despite the fact that there is a framework to do so.

Child B will be quarantined in any case; the parents will "have to" do child care whether or not the child receives instruction. In this scenario, not providing instruction hurts only the child and not the apparently bad and wrong parents who traveled.

Such a policy would not punish bad-behaving parents. It would punish children.


It's like people here forget that instruction is for the benefit of the child, not the parents.
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