Lack of a Plan Says It All

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CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

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Anonymous wrote:Last week the CDC offered new guidance on schools. This changed my thinking that it’s probably good that DC hasn’t released things (just to change it). I think all the details will be released on Monday the 16th or Friday the 19th (first day for teachers).

It is striking that we are freaking out about rules that haven't been released.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

That is so interesting to me because I feel like no one wears a mask properly all day long (except maybe medical professionals). Even my mother pulls her mask down at points during her work day because she is tired of wearing them. I haven’t been in a room all day with 20 7 year olds but I can’t imagine they all keep masks on all day. Just seeing DC’s daycare drop off masks are all askew, below nodes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.

Which school

Lafayette

Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.

she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

That is so interesting to me because I feel like no one wears a mask properly all day long (except maybe medical professionals). Even my mother pulls her mask down at points during her work day because she is tired of wearing them. I haven’t been in a room all day with 20 7 year olds but I can’t imagine they all keep masks on all day. Just seeing DC’s daycare drop off masks are all askew, below nodes, etc.

And that's the moment that covid will strike....

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

Kids remove masks to eat lunch. And besides that, DC has not adopted this change in CDC guidance

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

Kids remove masks to eat lunch. And besides that, DC has not adopted this change in CDC guidance

The point is, then the 4 kids sitting near a positive kid at lunch are "close contacts" whereas the 30 kids in the class where all were wearing masks (and most were further away than 3 feet from positive kid) are NOT close contacts.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

And if you don’t believe me about no young child is wearing a mask correctly and consistently, take a look at the below to see how the CDC defines that - this is a linked page in the exception so meant to apply here.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/effective-masks.html

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That same email/website post says no virtual education during quarantine. But it does say quarantine during travel, so maybe quarantine at other times will be different.

It says "As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."

That is not the same for positive cases. You guys either have poor reading comprehension, or are being purposely obtuse in order to troll.

How do they know whether a person is quarantining because of travel or exposure. Jeez it's almost as if all of yall travel police dont think things through.

Because kids have big mouths and tell people when they’re traveling.

You know there's going to be a riot if this happens right? What do you think the response to a two week suspension plus a visit from CPS will be? This is way outside of the principal's.powers and is extremely punitive and controlling. There's no difference between a travel quarantine and an exposure quarantine. The whole theory behind a travel quarantine is that it's an automatic exposure quarantine.

Disprate treatment, punitive respone that results in additional consequences, blah blah blah. Open and shut case. Stupid stupid power trip move.

This whole charade is about power and control.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

I agree with you but let's face the reality that we know why the CDC issued this statement. There was political pushback to the 6-foot distancing requirement and the quarantine requirement because too many schools couldn't implement it, and as a result kept all the kids at home. So the CDC issued a statement supported by the science (that quarantine is not necessary if mask use is perfect), that everyone knew was unattainable in any school. The statement was designed to be used as cover to allow school systems to open with mask mandates but no distancing or quarantines. We saw this happen all over the country last year. The fact that the CDC did NOT go as far as to say that so long as there is a mask mandate (regardless of compliance) quarantines are not necessary speaks volumes.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

And if you don’t believe me about no young child is wearing a mask correctly and consistently, take a look at the below to see how the CDC defines that - this is a linked page in the exception so meant to apply here.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/effective-masks.html

So how about we stop punishing the kids and unmask them. Other parts of the country and private schools have done this successfully. Masks were never meant to be worn 6-8 hours at a time.

What did Beauvoir do last year? Maybe they wore masks. But they quietly stayed open all year without incident. Before vaccinations.

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

I agree with you but let's face the reality that we know why the CDC issued this statement. There was political pushback to the 6-foot distancing requirement and the quarantine requirement because too many schools couldn't implement it, and as a result kept all the kids at home. So the CDC issued a statement supported by the science (that quarantine is not necessary if mask use is perfect), that everyone knew was unattainable in any school. The statement was designed to be used as cover to allow school systems to open with mask mandates but no distancing or quarantines. We saw this happen all over the country last year. The fact that the CDC did NOT go as far as to say that so long as there is a mask mandate (regardless of compliance) quarantines are not necessary speaks volumes.

do u realize ur constructing a conspiracy theory in ur head

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Anonymous wrote:CDC says masked kids don’t count as a close contact. All kids will be masked.

No, that’s not what CDC says. CDC added the following exception to the definition of close contact: “ In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) if both the infected student and the exposed student(s) correctly and consistently wore well-fitting masks the entire time. This exception does not apply to teachers, staff, or other adults in the indoor classroom setting.”

So two things - One, if a teacher is unvaccinated or refuses to disclose vaccination status, the whole class will still need to go virtual since the teacher will need to quarantine.

Two, there is not a single young elementary student who wears a well-fitted mask correctly for extended periods, nevertheless for an entire school day. Note that well-fitted and correctly not only means over nose and mouth which many young children find difficult to follow but also no gaps between mask and face.

Three, lunch - that ruins “consistently.”

And if you don’t believe me about no young child is wearing a mask correctly and consistently, take a look at the below to see how the CDC defines that - this is a linked page in the exception so meant to apply here.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/effective-masks.html

So how about we stop punishing the kids and unmask them. Other parts of the country and private schools have done this successfully. Masks were never meant to be worn 6-8 hours at a time.

What did Beauvoir do last year? Maybe they wore masks. But they quietly stayed open all year without incident. Before vaccinations.

Feel free to go private.

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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.

Which school

Lafayette

Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.

she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.

No, she said no instruction whatsoever.