Lack of a Plan Says It All

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So will there be three different types of quarantines with three different responses?

Case 1. Student in class tests positive for COVID. Entire class quarantines at home, alongside the teacher, who pivots to virtual instruction.

Case 2. Student travels, reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class, and the student receives 0 instruction (of any type?).

Case 3. Student does not travel and has an exposure elsewhere in the DMV. Student reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class. Should this student receive any instruction or no?

I think Case 3 sounds like they won't receive instruction, purely based on logistics.

Case 2 and 3 don't have to quarantine if student is vaccinated, I think. That's at least true for travel.

What's going to be interesting is Case 1 when there are vaccinated and unvaccinated kids in the classroom. So then potentially for Case 1 we get the unvaccinated kids getting no instruction because they have to go home, while the vaccinated kids stay in person.

In case 3, isn't that a powerful incentive to not test/report exposure? A family could do everything right and still have an accidental minor exposure. Perhaps your child is accidentally exposed to an individual who coughs on them a few times. You don't know if this person has COVID or not. If you do the right thing and test, your child could end up with no instruction for two weeks, even if they do not actually have COVID.

In the scenario you describe where you don't know if the cougher is positive, you could 1) not test your child (no exposure quarantine), or 2) test your child (still no exposure quarantine, but if they test positive you gotta quarantine them for being positive). If you don't know if the cougher is positive you have no "exposure" that would keep your kid out of school.

In another scenario, the cougher tests later that day after coughing on your kid and is positive. So your child has been "exposed." You could 1) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and not test your kid, 2) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and test your kid (then keep them home if it is positive), 3) let the school know your kid has been exposed, and gas to stay home for two weeks, regardless of whether you test your kid or not, regardless of whether or not your kid tests negative.

[Anonymous]

Plus the only way that DOH could bother you about the exposure is if the coughing-and-positive person told them about your kid. So.

[Anonymous]

Oh man this is ah-may-zing that DCPS is this bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will there be three different types of quarantines with three different responses?

Case 1. Student in class tests positive for COVID. Entire class quarantines at home, alongside the teacher, who pivots to virtual instruction.

Case 2. Student travels, reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class, and the student receives 0 instruction (of any type?).

Case 3. Student does not travel and has an exposure elsewhere in the DMV. Student reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class. Should this student receive any instruction or no?

I think Case 3 sounds like they won't receive instruction, purely based on logistics.

Case 2 and 3 don't have to quarantine if student is vaccinated, I think. That's at least true for travel.

What's going to be interesting is Case 1 when there are vaccinated and unvaccinated kids in the classroom. So then potentially for Case 1 we get the unvaccinated kids getting no instruction because they have to go home, while the vaccinated kids stay in person.

In case 3, isn't that a powerful incentive to not test/report exposure? A family could do everything right and still have an accidental minor exposure. Perhaps your child is accidentally exposed to an individual who coughs on them a few times. You don't know if this person has COVID or not. If you do the right thing and test, your child could end up with no instruction for two weeks, even if they do not actually have COVID.

In the scenario you describe where you don't know if the cougher is positive, you could 1) not test your child (no exposure quarantine), or 2) test your child (still no exposure quarantine, but if they test positive you gotta quarantine them for being positive). If you don't know if the cougher is positive you have no "exposure" that would keep your kid out of school.

In another scenario, the cougher tests later that day after coughing on your kid and is positive. So your child has been "exposed." You could 1) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and not test your kid, 2) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and test your kid (then keep them home if it is positive), 3) let the school know your kid has been exposed, and gas to stay home for two weeks, regardless of whether you test your kid or not, regardless of whether or not your kid tests negative.

It's fascinating that the best option seems to be not test your kid, and hope they don't have COVID. The SECOND best option is to hope that all of the children are sent home, so that your child retains the right to receive instruction.

[Anonymous]

really looking forward to all of the debates on this board once parents and teachers start litigating amongst themselves what counts as an exposure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:really looking forward to all of the debates on this board once parents and teachers start litigating amongst themselves what counts as an exposure

Fortunately there are CDC guidelines about that.

[Anonymous]

But DCPS did not follow cdc guidelines over the summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will there be three different types of quarantines with three different responses?

Case 1. Student in class tests positive for COVID. Entire class quarantines at home, alongside the teacher, who pivots to virtual instruction.

Case 2. Student travels, reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class, and the student receives 0 instruction (of any type?).

Case 3. Student does not travel and has an exposure elsewhere in the DMV. Student reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class. Should this student receive any instruction or no?

I think Case 3 sounds like they won't receive instruction, purely based on logistics.

Case 2 and 3 don't have to quarantine if student is vaccinated, I think. That's at least true for travel.

What's going to be interesting is Case 1 when there are vaccinated and unvaccinated kids in the classroom. So then potentially for Case 1 we get the unvaccinated kids getting no instruction because they have to go home, while the vaccinated kids stay in person.

In case 3, isn't that a powerful incentive to not test/report exposure? A family could do everything right and still have an accidental minor exposure. Perhaps your child is accidentally exposed to an individual who coughs on them a few times. You don't know if this person has COVID or not. If you do the right thing and test, your child could end up with no instruction for two weeks, even if they do not actually have COVID.

In the scenario you describe where you don't know if the cougher is positive, you could 1) not test your child (no exposure quarantine), or 2) test your child (still no exposure quarantine, but if they test positive you gotta quarantine them for being positive). If you don't know if the cougher is positive you have no "exposure" that would keep your kid out of school.

In another scenario, the cougher tests later that day after coughing on your kid and is positive. So your child has been "exposed." You could 1) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and not test your kid, 2) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and test your kid (then keep them home if it is positive), 3) let the school know your kid has been exposed, and gas to stay home for two weeks, regardless of whether you test your kid or not, regardless of whether or not your kid tests negative.

Come on. If your kid has an exposore of any sort, then you brought your kid to the grocery store, or socialized unmasked or let your kid lick playground equipment. That's on you.

Yeah anyone who is arguing about WHICH exposed children get instruction is missing the point. It is set up like this to encourage personal responsibility.

[Anonymous]

What’s going to happen is kid goes away with family, family gets covid but sends kid to school before they’re symptomatic, someone in the family tests positive, the rest of the family tests positive, whole class has to quarantine.
Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will there be three different types of quarantines with three different responses?

Case 1. Student in class tests positive for COVID. Entire class quarantines at home, alongside the teacher, who pivots to virtual instruction.

Case 2. Student travels, reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class, and the student receives 0 instruction (of any type?).

Case 3. Student does not travel and has an exposure elsewhere in the DMV. Student reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class. Should this student receive any instruction or no?

I think Case 3 sounds like they won't receive instruction, purely based on logistics.

Case 2 and 3 don't have to quarantine if student is vaccinated, I think. That's at least true for travel.

What's going to be interesting is Case 1 when there are vaccinated and unvaccinated kids in the classroom. So then potentially for Case 1 we get the unvaccinated kids getting no instruction because they have to go home, while the vaccinated kids stay in person.

In case 3, isn't that a powerful incentive to not test/report exposure? A family could do everything right and still have an accidental minor exposure. Perhaps your child is accidentally exposed to an individual who coughs on them a few times. You don't know if this person has COVID or not. If you do the right thing and test, your child could end up with no instruction for two weeks, even if they do not actually have COVID.

In the scenario you describe where you don't know if the cougher is positive, you could 1) not test your child (no exposure quarantine), or 2) test your child (still no exposure quarantine, but if they test positive you gotta quarantine them for being positive). If you don't know if the cougher is positive you have no "exposure" that would keep your kid out of school.

In another scenario, the cougher tests later that day after coughing on your kid and is positive. So your child has been "exposed." You could 1) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and not test your kid, 2) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and test your kid (then keep them home if it is positive), 3) let the school know your kid has been exposed, and gas to stay home for two weeks, regardless of whether you test your kid or not, regardless of whether or not your kid tests negative.

Come on. If your kid has an exposore of any sort, then you brought your kid to the grocery store, or socialized unmasked or let your kid lick playground equipment. That's on you.

Are you….shaming parents for bringing kids to the GROCERY STORE? Are you completely heartless, clueless, or both?

[Anonymous]

CALL CPS! THERE’S A KID AT A GROCERY STORE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will there be three different types of quarantines with three different responses?

Case 1. Student in class tests positive for COVID. Entire class quarantines at home, alongside the teacher, who pivots to virtual instruction.

Case 2. Student travels, reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class, and the student receives 0 instruction (of any type?).

Case 3. Student does not travel and has an exposure elsewhere in the DMV. Student reports it and quarantines. No other students stay home from class. Should this student receive any instruction or no?

I think Case 3 sounds like they won't receive instruction, purely based on logistics.

Case 2 and 3 don't have to quarantine if student is vaccinated, I think. That's at least true for travel.

What's going to be interesting is Case 1 when there are vaccinated and unvaccinated kids in the classroom. So then potentially for Case 1 we get the unvaccinated kids getting no instruction because they have to go home, while the vaccinated kids stay in person.

In case 3, isn't that a powerful incentive to not test/report exposure? A family could do everything right and still have an accidental minor exposure. Perhaps your child is accidentally exposed to an individual who coughs on them a few times. You don't know if this person has COVID or not. If you do the right thing and test, your child could end up with no instruction for two weeks, even if they do not actually have COVID.

In the scenario you describe where you don't know if the cougher is positive, you could 1) not test your child (no exposure quarantine), or 2) test your child (still no exposure quarantine, but if they test positive you gotta quarantine them for being positive). If you don't know if the cougher is positive you have no "exposure" that would keep your kid out of school.

In another scenario, the cougher tests later that day after coughing on your kid and is positive. So your child has been "exposed." You could 1) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and not test your kid, 2) not let anyone at the school know your kid has been exposed and test your kid (then keep them home if it is positive), 3) let the school know your kid has been exposed, and gas to stay home for two weeks, regardless of whether you test your kid or not, regardless of whether or not your kid tests negative.

Come on. If your kid has an exposore of any sort, then you brought your kid to the grocery store, or socialized unmasked or let your kid lick playground equipment. That's on you.

Yeah anyone who is arguing about WHICH exposed children get instruction is missing the point. It is set up like this to encourage personal responsibility.

First, you suck for your victim blaming.

Second, people won’t actually follow punitive and largely voluntary rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our ES said that there will be no virtual instruction for kids who are quarantined. I don't know if that's a district wide decision or just this school.

Which school

Lafayette

Really? From their website:
On Sunday, August 8th I will be sending out our official welcome back email with a full list of our COVID protocols, as well as class lists, signups for room parents, the school year calendar of events, and other exciting information! Be on the lookout for that email!

I know it’s the 8th….. but I didn’t get that email yet. I suspect trolling.

she sent a follow up that class lists are under construction. and to the PPs point. Dr B said there will be no virtual instruction for kids who quarantine for travel. she said nothing about what happens with a positive case.

No, she said no instruction whatsoever.

I'm not even a Lafayette parent, and I could see it :
https://www.lafayettehsa.org/mid-summer-updates/
"As a note, there is no virtual instruction available for students who are quarantining due to travel."

Right. The point is, "we're not going to make our teachers do backflips and do both online and in class teaching because you went to OBX."

This is not applicable to positive cases - still waiting on that....

But what if your kid was just exposed, even though you didn't travel? Teachers apparently aren't going to "do backflips" for those kids either, and they are just SOL.

We don't know yet, do we. The guidance above was just about travel.

Why make a distinction between the two?

Punishment.

No, not a punishment, but a logical consequence for hazardous behavior. Move into the 21st century and out of the past.

[Anonymous]

Seriously if you are not sleeping in your N95 how can you even say you love your children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, the difference for treatment is because there isnt going to be a virtual option when it’s a single student at home. Classes aren’t set-up for hybrid virtual and in-person. The teacher is either in person or virtual. The class isn’t going to go virtual because one person traveled. If there is an in class positive case, then the entire class goes virtual, including the teacher. The thought process makes perfect sense and is completely practical, not punitive

I understand why it's happening. I am hoping that teachers will at least send home packets if a kid is exposed. It even feels like you could get a laptop, point it at the teacher, and record the lesson and then send to the student.

Teacher here. This sounds awesome. Kid travels to hot spot. Doesn't say anything. Brings covid into the classroom. Exposes other kids. Quarantine happens. Teacher does a backflip and goes from in-person to virtual in the space of less than 24 hours. But the catch being all kids in quarantine get classes but the kid who travel doesn't get any virtual instruction. Maybe a packet? Oh what fun it is to teach in dcps.