Class 2025 TJHSST Results

[Anonymous]

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Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

unlikely the. new system should be harder to game and more representative

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it taking so long? I am extremely suspicious that FCPS is engaging in illegal activities (selecting based on race) to select the class of 2025.

We need to FOIA this process as MUCH as possible and hold them accountable. How are they actually “ranking” applicants? The pending lawsuit should use this information to help their case.

The school board met 9 times this school year trying to get the process right. Why have families not been notified yet? It is not fair to the students, parents or TJHSST staff.

How will this incredible delay effect the ability of students to register for the right classes their freshman year? The freshman already will not have access to the normal summer classes (RS and computer science). What a mess. What a disgrace.

I assume it is taking so long because the essays were easy to write and now it is virtually impossible to rank students based on almost completely indiscernible differences in the essays.

I think they still had very few minorities among applicants and qualified candidates. So no matter how they slice it, they end up with 70% Asians among the top kids - which is not the result they were instructed to achieve. They are probably brainstorming the ways to manipulate the results in order to come up with the desired outcome.

I’m an advocate for extreme reform, and this is exactly the outcome I expected. Which makes it all the more disgusting how those fighting for the status quo spread lies saying how drastically the numbers would change. A lottery is only the way forward.

Good luck with that! No elected official or public servant is ever going to admit their mistake. If they change next year, they will have to blame themselves which is a big no-no. The new method will stay around at least for a few years before they can figure out who to blame for it not working properly. By then, it would be time for the next school board elections, and out with this idiot school board!

The conditions for next year's admissions process, with much less in the way of COVID restrictions, will be much different and therefore it is expected that the admissions process will be much different, especially with respect to the timeline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

This will only happen if the demographics of the applicant pool don't change significantly - which is possible given the deep damage to TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia. TJ and FCPS have a lot of work to do to make TJ an appealing destination for non-Asians in the years to come.

Non-Asian Applicants
Class of 2009: 2,000 (literally exactly! how wild)
Class of 2014: 1,876
Class of 2019: 1,393
Class of 2024: 1,116

That should tell you everything you need to know about how TJ is perceived in Northern Virginia. By the way, during this time period, population in the catchment areas has EXPLODED.

[Anonymous]

This timeline has been terrible for the mental health of students. In past years, it was only about 50 kids on the waitlist that were hung out to dry and wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

So so true. So much of this is about parent ego. Your smart, hard working kid will be fine anywhere. Calling any motivated 13 year old mediocre reflects more on you than them. Good luck to all the kids with parents like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

This will only happen if the demographics of the applicant pool don't change significantly - which is possible given the deep damage to TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia. TJ and FCPS have a lot of work to do to make TJ an appealing destination for non-Asians in the years to come.

Non-Asian Applicants
Class of 2009: 2,000 (literally exactly! how wild)
Class of 2014: 1,876
Class of 2019: 1,393
Class of 2024: 1,116

That should tell you everything you need to know about how TJ is perceived in Northern Virginia. By the way, during this time period, population in the catchment areas has EXPLODED.

Yeah, it tells me that people are racist against asians and want to stay in their white-majority schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

This will only happen if the demographics of the applicant pool don't change significantly - which is possible given the deep damage to TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia. TJ and FCPS have a lot of work to do to make TJ an appealing destination for non-Asians in the years to come.

Non-Asian Applicants
Class of 2009: 2,000 (literally exactly! how wild)
Class of 2014: 1,876
Class of 2019: 1,393
Class of 2024: 1,116

That should tell you everything you need to know about how TJ is perceived in Northern Virginia. By the way, during this time period, population in the catchment areas has EXPLODED.

You are delusional. There is no damage to TJ reputation- its just few manufacturing “problems” for easy target $ non-favored Asians being the dominant majority at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Would be funny if it turns out that Asian enrollment dropped from 70% to only 68%. Imagine the mental bandwidth all these clowns on both sides wasted!

This will only happen if the demographics of the applicant pool don't change significantly - which is possible given the deep damage to TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia. TJ and FCPS have a lot of work to do to make TJ an appealing destination for non-Asians in the years to come.

Non-Asian Applicants
Class of 2009: 2,000 (literally exactly! how wild)
Class of 2014: 1,876
Class of 2019: 1,393
Class of 2024: 1,116

That should tell you everything you need to know about how TJ is perceived in Northern Virginia. By the way, during this time period, population in the catchment areas has EXPLODED.

You are delusional. There is no damage to TJ reputation- its just few manufacturing “problems” for easy target $ non-favored Asians being the dominant majority at TJ.

The numbers don't lie. If TJ still had the same reputation, its application numbers would grow at pace with the influx of population. The Class of 2024, even with the huge surge in Asian applications, had the smallest total number of applicants in over 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

You’re wrong. I put two kids through over 9 years. Last kid was 2020. The kids were not mediocre. And the ones who slipped in somehow didn’t make it a full year. Test prep doesn’t help with teachers recs, which traditionally have be used to identify substandard kids.

And there have been superstar kids who got missed. And there was national media attention.

I think gymnasts are nuts to practice 8 hours a day and home school for a sport with such a high injury rate, ED, anxiety, depression. But I’m not trying to shut down gyms or force them to make substandard kids as elites or lobbying to kill their dreams— they’ll just get injured and be forced to drop back. Same with TJ. Once you are there, you have to prove yourself everyday. If you can’t, you leave.

It was great for my kids. Many parents feel the same way. If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids. Why do you care if mine attend?

[Anonymous]

BtW, the kids TK misses come back as the top 5-10% of Oakton, Chantilly, McLean, Langley. And push your kid out of contention for UVA, a WM, VT engineering. Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

You’re wrong. I put two kids through over 9 years. Last kid was 2020. The kids were not mediocre. And the ones who slipped in somehow didn’t make it a full year. Test prep doesn’t help with teachers recs, which traditionally have be used to identify substandard kids.

And there have been superstar kids who got missed. And there was national media attention.

I think gymnasts are nuts to practice 8 hours a day and home school for a sport with such a high injury rate, ED, anxiety, depression. But I’m not trying to shut down gyms or force them to make substandard kids as elites or lobbying to kill their dreams— they’ll just get injured and be forced to drop back. Same with TJ. Once you are there, you have to prove yourself everyday. If you can’t, you leave.

It was great for my kids. Many parents feel the same way. If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids. Why do you care if mine attend?

1) The length of your affiliation with TJ tracks with the length of the test prep boom. You would have needed to be around much longer to truly understand the school's transformation.

2) You were a TJ parent, which means that at best you had a deep knowledge of about 10% of the students who were in the same class as your kids. Indeed, they likely self-selected to be around kids who shared their (and theoretically your) values. This is a part of why TJ parents are among the least informed individuals about the realities of TJ.

3) SPORTS ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO TJ. They're just not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

You’re wrong. I put two kids through over 9 years. Last kid was 2020. The kids were not mediocre. And the ones who slipped in somehow didn’t make it a full year. Test prep doesn’t help with teachers recs, which traditionally have be used to identify substandard kids.

And there have been superstar kids who got missed. And there was national media attention.

I think gymnasts are nuts to practice 8 hours a day and home school for a sport with such a high injury rate, ED, anxiety, depression. But I’m not trying to shut down gyms or force them to make substandard kids as elites or lobbying to kill their dreams— they’ll just get injured and be forced to drop back. Same with TJ. Once you are there, you have to prove yourself everyday. If you can’t, you leave.

It was great for my kids. Many parents feel the same way. If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids. Why do you care if mine attend?

1) The length of your affiliation with TJ tracks with the length of the test prep boom. You would have needed to be around much longer to truly understand the school's transformation.

2) You were a TJ parent, which means that at best you had a deep knowledge of about 10% of the students who were in the same class as your kids. Indeed, they likely self-selected to be around kids who shared their (and theoretically your) values. This is a part of why TJ parents are among the least informed individuals about the realities of TJ.

3) SPORTS ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO TJ. They're just not.

Because you said so, right?

Self discipline, hours of practice every day to master skills, working towards a goal, competing against other kids.
Sounds the same to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

You’re wrong. I put two kids through over 9 years. Last kid was 2020. The kids were not mediocre. And the ones who slipped in somehow didn’t make it a full year. Test prep doesn’t help with teachers recs, which traditionally have be used to identify substandard kids.

And there have been superstar kids who got missed. And there was national media attention.

I think gymnasts are nuts to practice 8 hours a day and home school for a sport with such a high injury rate, ED, anxiety, depression. But I’m not trying to shut down gyms or force them to make substandard kids as elites or lobbying to kill their dreams— they’ll just get injured and be forced to drop back. Same with TJ. Once you are there, you have to prove yourself everyday. If you can’t, you leave.

It was great for my kids. Many parents feel the same way. If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids. Why do you care if mine attend?

1) The length of your affiliation with TJ tracks with the length of the test prep boom. You would have needed to be around much longer to truly understand the school's transformation.

2) You were a TJ parent, which means that at best you had a deep knowledge of about 10% of the students who were in the same class as your kids. Indeed, they likely self-selected to be around kids who shared their (and theoretically your) values. This is a part of why TJ parents are among the least informed individuals about the realities of TJ.

3) SPORTS ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO TJ. They're just not.

Because you said so, right?

Self discipline, hours of practice every day to master skills, working towards a goal, competing against other kids.
Sounds the same to me.

They're not comparable because the purpose of athletic teams is to win competitions. That's not the purpose of TJ. So you can't compare the processes for selecting one to the processes for selecting another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Few more hours... results will be out
No more discussions on TJ admissions...
Hope everything will be alright..

Nope, especially this year, there will be a lot of outrage as super qualified kids are rejected and mediocre students get in. And everyone will be waiting for the break down by school, gender and race.

Super qualified kids have been rejected every single year of TJ's history.

Mediocre kids have been admitted in every single year of TJ's history.

The number of mediocre kids that get admitted has risen sharply as the test prep industry flourishes - because the entire point of test prep is to take students who otherwise would not have qualified and pose them as qualified. You would know this if you'd been connected with the school for a significant length of time - long enough to see how the school changes through generations.

You’re wrong. I put two kids through over 9 years. Last kid was 2020. The kids were not mediocre. And the ones who slipped in somehow didn’t make it a full year. Test prep doesn’t help with teachers recs, which traditionally have be used to identify substandard kids.

And there have been superstar kids who got missed. And there was national media attention.

I think gymnasts are nuts to practice 8 hours a day and home school for a sport with such a high injury rate, ED, anxiety, depression. But I’m not trying to shut down gyms or force them to make substandard kids as elites or lobbying to kill their dreams— they’ll just get injured and be forced to drop back. Same with TJ. Once you are there, you have to prove yourself everyday. If you can’t, you leave.

It was great for my kids. Many parents feel the same way. If you don’t like it, don’t send your kids. Why do you care if mine attend?

1) The length of your affiliation with TJ tracks with the length of the test prep boom. You would have needed to be around much longer to truly understand the school's transformation.

2) You were a TJ parent, which means that at best you had a deep knowledge of about 10% of the students who were in the same class as your kids. Indeed, they likely self-selected to be around kids who shared their (and theoretically your) values. This is a part of why TJ parents are among the least informed individuals about the realities of TJ.

3) SPORTS ARE NOT COMPARABLE TO TJ. They're just not.

Because you said so, right?

Self discipline, hours of practice every day to master skills, working towards a goal, competing against other kids.
Sounds the same to me.

They're not comparable because the purpose of athletic teams is to win competitions. That's not the purpose of TJ. So you can't compare the processes for selecting one to the processes for selecting another.

+1000 - if TJ's mission was to win Science Olympiad and place kids as Intel or Siemens finalists or to get kids into Ivy League schools, you might have something of a point with the sports comparison.

But it isn't. So you don't.

But people will continue to get pissy about it because they see both TJ and athletic teams as access points to elite universities, and so they compare the two when they shouldn't. It's a indictment of your logical reasoning when you do it.