Teachers union says schools "must" be fully reopened in the fall

Anonymous
I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah my husband does his share - which means half of raising his children, cleaning his home and feeding his family.

I’m goofing off in DCUM because he does bedtime w the kids.

If your husband m, baby daddy doesn’t do their share in a pandemic then complain about that. Don’t complain about the teachers.

Two of the moms in my dc’s class are single moms by choice. Never once have they complained about the teachers, etc. I can’t believe how they do it. One has two kids to boot.

So no I don’t have any grace for women who want to beat up on other women and when their partners could be doing anything

You don’t like how they do something just deal w it. Stop controlling everything or let the standard go


wow. so women should just shut up and take it, is what you’re saying?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"Randi Weingarten, president of the nation’s second-largest teachers’ union, plans to call on Thursday for a full reopening of the nation’s schools for the next academic year, saying: “There is no doubt: Schools must be open. In person. Five days a week.”

...Ms. Weingarten plans to acknowledge that “prolonged isolation is harmful” to students and that online instruction has negatively affected learning. She will say that reopening schools increases both teachers’ and parents’ comfort with returning, and that many parents, particularly mothers, are unable to work when school schedules are truncated."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/us/reopening-schools-teachers-union.html



Almost as if everything that’s been said about unions is rightwing propaganda spread by agenda-driven conservatives and conservative outlets to achieve their political goals without regard for children.

Hum
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


I don’t know why we are fighting with each other.

We are on the same side.

The problem is that the pandemic has been a disaster for the American economy because Donald Trump and the Republican Party screwed up massively. They allowed the pandemic to run rampant. They didn’t fund schools so they could reopen. Or restaurants.
They didn’t support parents.

Republicans did this to us and it’s ok to say that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


I don’t know why we are fighting with each other.

We are on the same side.

The problem is that the pandemic has been a disaster for the American economy because Donald Trump and the Republican Party screwed up massively. They allowed the pandemic to run rampant. They didn’t fund schools so they could reopen. Or restaurants.
They didn’t support parents.

Republicans did this to us and it’s ok to say that.


Um, no it's not "ok" to say that. It's ignorant. An incompetent mayor and schools chancellor, an amoral teachers union that used children as human shields to increase their power, and parents who bought into the fear mongering is what "did this to us," as many other states and private schools here in DC that figured out how to reopen safely while our kids languished proves. As for the pandemic, Trump bungled a great deal, and I couldn't be happier that he's out, but his administration gets credit for Operation Warp Speed (which got us the vaccine) and it's not as if the Biden Administration has been crowning itself in glory. They revised their guidelines on distancing and schools not because of any scientific evidence but because the teachers unions demanded it and they caved. All politics is local in this situation -- and our local politicians are a ship of fools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


I don’t know why we are fighting with each other.

We are on the same side.

The problem is that the pandemic has been a disaster for the American economy because Donald Trump and the Republican Party screwed up massively. They allowed the pandemic to run rampant. They didn’t fund schools so they could reopen. Or restaurants.
They didn’t support parents.

Republicans did this to us and it’s ok to say that.


For someone who doesn’t like Trump, you sure take after his penchant for hyperbole and exaggeration. Schools received $67 billion in 2020 alone and a lot of that money still isn’t spent. The PPP program received more than $700 billion. And the Operation Warp Speed work on vaccine procurement is much better than many EU countries and Canada. I’m not saying everything was managed perfectly but maybe trying to reduce this to a Team Red/Team Blue exercise is overly simplistic.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Simulcast is extra work for teachers. In middle/high schools the current IPL is no different from distance learning because children are still on devices and the teacher teaches from the device. If teachers have dedicated DL classrooms it throws off planning for the school. There is no longer sufficient justification for this.


Correct. Online school needs to be a separate school.


Agree, and the lowest priority. So if that doesn't work, or there's not the funding for it, etc. etc. people have to homeschool. Which was the only option before.


LOL. Nope! Your in person kids are 0% more important than anyone else's public school kids, no matter via what method they access public education. Sorry, snowflake.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.



Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?


Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.


+1

I had to leave a group of friends over it. For some reason, I was not allowed to acknowledge this as reality. Both of my sisters lost their jobs because their kids were home and they couldn't afford childcare.


And you blame teachers? This is the culture we have created and supported in the US. Until Covid happened no one cared how little we value working moms.


Both of your sisters don’t have husbands/fathers for their kids? They are both widows?

Seriously maybe ownership of childcare belongs w both parents not a teacher


This! What really happened in DCUM Land is not that "the poor widdle women were FORCED out of the workforce by the Big, Bad Patriarchy," but that privileged people who think making hundreds of thousands of dollars HHI makes them "middle class" made decisions to keep the higher household earner in the workforce during a pandemic. Boo freaking hoo.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.


No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.


Oh, ok, that's good to know.


They can open at full capacity with 3ft if there’s enough space- two examples of schools that don’t have enough space for full capacity with 3ft are yuying and stokes (brookland).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


I don’t know why we are fighting with each other.

We are on the same side.

The problem is that the pandemic has been a disaster for the American economy because Donald Trump and the Republican Party screwed up massively. They allowed the pandemic to run rampant. They didn’t fund schools so they could reopen. Or restaurants.
They didn’t support parents.

Republicans did this to us and it’s ok to say that.


Um, no it's not "ok" to say that. It's ignorant. An incompetent mayor and schools chancellor, an amoral teachers union that used children as human shields to increase their power, and parents who bought into the fear mongering is what "did this to us," as many other states and private schools here in DC that figured out how to reopen safely while our kids languished proves. As for the pandemic, Trump bungled a great deal, and I couldn't be happier that he's out, but his administration gets credit for Operation Warp Speed (which got us the vaccine) and it's not as if the Biden Administration has been crowning itself in glory. They revised their guidelines on distancing and schools not because of any scientific evidence but because the teachers unions demanded it and they caved. All politics is local in this situation -- and our local politicians are a ship of fools.


This, all of it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


Ignore the WTU trolls here. I'm sorry your family is struggling. We all know that it's due to teachers refusing to go back to work and they're trying to blame the parents for the mess they created.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Simulcast is extra work for teachers. In middle/high schools the current IPL is no different from distance learning because children are still on devices and the teacher teaches from the device. If teachers have dedicated DL classrooms it throws off planning for the school. There is no longer sufficient justification for this.


Correct. Online school needs to be a separate school.


Agree, and the lowest priority. So if that doesn't work, or there's not the funding for it, etc. etc. people have to homeschool. Which was the only option before.


LOL. Nope! Your in person kids are 0% more important than anyone else's public school kids, no matter via what method they access public education. Sorry, snowflake.


LOL right back at you. You don’t have any right to compromise the education of other kids due to irrational fear.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”


what the f are you rambling about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.


Ignore the WTU trolls here. I'm sorry your family is struggling. We all know that it's due to teachers refusing to go back to work and they're trying to blame the parents for the mess they created.


No you don’t know that.

You are so used to next day Amazon delivery you think a bureaucracy can turn on a dime

I’m no bowser fan but she didn’t cause the virus that was all trump. She’s had a lot of crazy to deal w - vaguely gestures to the last administration attacking peaceful protestors, storming of the Capitol etc

I don’t think restaurants should have opened like they did, etc but she didn’t cause this she’s dealing w this
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