Teachers union says schools "must" be fully reopened in the fall

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

Wow you are exactly the type of awful the PP was talking about. You know a few contractors (and medical professionals because what?) and therefore you know that PPs sisters’ families definitely had plenty of work from home time and could somehow make it work. You’re also assuming the sisters could work from home.

You seem to be in exactly the work from home bubble the PP was talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She should call for an end to the virtual option
The virtual option will potentially mess things up, and other countries are not doing it.

Yes.
Our (big, DC) private school sent an email yesterday:

Everyone will be in-person, full time. There will be no remote classes. If your child has an extraordinary medical need and you need a remote option
for the entire school year you must reach out to the head of school by next week to discuss.

Schools need to draw a line in the sand or a small sector of parents will abuse it.

For a large public school system, they can provide a virtual option and it sincerely is not disruptive as long as those using it know the ramps to move back into in-person will be limited and understand the burden of change if they choose to move back to in-person will be on them.



But yeah, privates need to just say this is the product we're offering. If you're not buying it, go elsewhere.

The virtual option needs to be a separate acacemy, group all those kids in one vitural acadamy. Under no circumstancs should we expect teachers to simutaneously teach in person and online. that is a disaster on both ends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

Oh, ok, that's good to know.

there should be NO distancing at ll in the fall. No masks. Back to normal in the fall or we will never get back to normal. Covid isn't going away and the Union needs to quit moving the goal posts. we may never have a suitable vaccine for kids under 12. There is always some risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

Oh, ok, that's good to know.

there should be NO distancing at ll in the fall. No masks. Back to normal in the fall or we will never get back to normal. Covid isn't going away and the Union needs to quit moving the goal posts. we may never have a suitable vaccine for kids under 12. There is always some risk.

Fauci is saying children still need it wear masks. I think we should fill open 5 days a week with elementary continuing to mask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

Wow you are exactly the type of awful the PP was talking about. You know a few contractors (and medical professionals because what?) and therefore you know that PPs sisters’ families definitely had plenty of work from home time and could somehow make it work. You’re also assuming the sisters could work from home.

You seem to be in exactly the work from home bubble the PP was talking about.

HUZZBINS does indeed seem to suffer from the belligerence that several people have talked about here. I don't know if it's just some sort of anger at the cognitive dissonance of having something not true that one wants to be true (all mother can make it work and the statistics on earnings losses by women are all nonfactual). It seems to be difficult for HUZZBINS to conceive that people have different realities than what she believes.

HUZZBINS, seriously, you might want to seek some help with this. It can't be helpful in navigating life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

Oh, ok, that's good to know.

there should be NO distancing at ll in the fall. No masks. Back to normal in the fall or we will never get back to normal. Covid isn't going away and the Union needs to quit moving the goal posts. we may never have a suitable vaccine for kids under 12. There is always some risk.

Fauci is saying children still need it wear masks. I think we should fill open 5 days a week with elementary continuing to mask.

NP but Fauci also said we could stop wearing masks outside and I don't see people listening to that comment. So I think we can ignore the young kids should wear masks one as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

All day and every day. Why do you think I’m not?

Oh you think I’m a teacher because I think parents should handle their kids and situation in a pandemic. I’m not a teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

All day and every day. Why do you think I’m not?

Oh you think I’m a teacher because I think parents should handle their kids and situation in a pandemic. I’m not a teacher.

It's fun because HUZZBINS has derailed this thread, as she does frequently, spouting her misogyny and her pet point that every woman just needs to get their HUZZBINS to do more childcare/housework.

She is the embodiment of the subthread that was about belligerent moms who cannot bear to hear any woman talk about their lost earnings or career struggles or income shortfalls caused by school closures.

[Anonymous]

Divorcing your spouse who doesn't do 50% of home labor does not mean they then do 50% of home labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

All day and every day. Why do you think I’m not?

Oh you think I’m a teacher because I think parents should handle their kids and situation in a pandemic. I’m not a teacher.

It's fun because HUZZBINS has derailed this thread, as she does frequently, spouting her misogyny and her pet point that every woman just needs to get their HUZZBINS to do more childcare/housework.

She is the embodiment of the subthread that was about belligerent moms who cannot bear to hear any woman talk about their lost earnings or career struggles or income shortfalls caused by school closures.

She's a fkn gargoyle. It's just so absolutely ridiculous that either she knows it and is a troll or she actually has a bowl of pudding instead of a brain. No thinking person could possibly imagine that everyone could work from home unless they believe that all service workers and people in customer-facing roles are non player characters in a videogame or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the woman with the two sisters. And the people talking about husbands doing their fair share are exactly the problem.

You are assuming that both parents have the luxury to stay home. Well, their husbands are both contractors who made the bulk of the household income. You know what can't be done from home? Contracting. I'm not sure how you expect them to manage childcare during the day while they have to be out of the house. Someone had to be home, and my sisters both made less money than their husbands. Quitting was the only logical thing to do.

You clueless, callous people. Not everyone has some perfect life where both parents can work from home and manage small children during the day. I am doing fine, but they are struggling, and I am so mad to see these comments suggesting that their relationships or bad or that there's an easy fix. They are STRUGGLING.

You live in a teleworking bubble.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out you were one of the people I had to stop talking to.

I would also not be surprised if you responded in some way blaming my sisters for not making enough money to afford childcare or suggesting that their husbands stay home from work more.

That’s funny. I have loads of friends whose husbands are contractors or medical professionals and yet the husband does work at home too. Btw rain days and extreme cold means they can’t work so they don’t take a day off but take over for mom.

Good friend in DC’s husband is a contractor. 5 kids and she’s medical staff. They made it work and chose not to send their kids back. She even had major medical problems this past November and was bed ridden for two months which delayed her vax. He still took care of her, worked and had the kids sorted.

They are hardly umc. They are in DC and they are making it work.

So yeah it’s hard. Yeah not everyone lives in a wfh bubble. But I’ll bet my house the majority of people trashing teachers are wfh.

And yeah the patriarchy - it you are wfh and your boss can’t understand you have kids in a pandemic and doesn’t cut you slack that’s the patriarchy. Even if it’s a woman btw because that sh*t is ingrained. If you feel pressure to over perform from 9 to 5 in a pandemic lest lose your job - that’s the patriarchy.

And just because a man makes more doesn’t mean their jobs are more important

Last boss still took half days because kids were sick - his wife had a lower paid job - if anyone said why he was leaving his response was “my wife has a career too”

what the f are you rambling about?

Go raise your kids

Do your job!!

All day and every day. Why do you think I’m not?

Oh you think I’m a teacher because I think parents should handle their kids and situation in a pandemic. I’m not a teacher.

It's fun because HUZZBINS has derailed this thread, as she does frequently, spouting her misogyny and her pet point that every woman just needs to get their HUZZBINS to do more childcare/housework.

She is the embodiment of the subthread that was about belligerent moms who cannot bear to hear any woman talk about their lost earnings or career struggles or income shortfalls caused by school closures.

If she has a partner, she must really really harbor some anger towards him. Couples therapy is in order, but sadly, people so narcissistic rarely acknowledge the need for therapy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

She's a fkn gargoyle. It's just so absolutely ridiculous that either she knows it and is a troll or she actually has a bowl of pudding instead of a brain. No thinking person could possibly imagine that everyone could work from home unless they believe that all service workers and people in customer-facing roles are non player characters in a videogame or something.

I have wondered if she's a MAGA troll that's just here to make mothers feel like they need to stay in the home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She's a fkn gargoyle. It's just so absolutely ridiculous that either she knows it and is a troll or she actually has a bowl of pudding instead of a brain. No thinking person could possibly imagine that everyone could work from home unless they believe that all service workers and people in customer-facing roles are non player characters in a videogame or something.

I have wondered if she's a MAGA troll that's just here to make mothers feel like they need to stay in the home.

Isn't it so weird that she's screaming about the patriarchy in order to keep women home