Teachers union says schools "must" be fully reopened in the fall

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Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

Wow. Not my people. They are enraged and comfortable with.

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Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

Actually, they cannot, particularly in crowded MS and HS in DC. My kids high school principal has already started saying if cohosting and 3 feet rules are still in place high schoolers (who haven't had a SINGLE DAY of in person learning this school year) won't be able to come back full time.

As for Weingarten: All that's changed is the framing, but read the details (3 feet spacing, new HVAC, hire new teachers for smaller class sizes, etc). She's still moving the goalposts and could care less about getting kids back in classrooms. She's lying. This is all PR. Because early polling for midterm elections is showing that school reopenings are a HUGE issue in many parts of the country where union pressure on inept officials (like Bowser) have kept schools closed.

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Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

That's neat but there are schools that are saying they can't open fully for all kids 5 days a week because they can't accommodate everyone with 3-foot distancing.

listen- you all need something to get uptight about.

Your schools can fit kids with 3 feet of distance. But you all just CANNOT give up with battle. The mom fight against the public schools.
Your children will be back in school. No doubt. I just hope we can keep the parents outside the front doors. That has been the best part of IPL.

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Anonymous wrote:Her continued insistence on 3ft is worrying. Where does she think all the extra staff will come from to make smaller class sizes? Or the space, in a city? This just compounds the harms to the minority kids who are concentrated in districts still even listening to teachers unions.

No. We are IPL with 3 feet distance. Our kinder rooms have 24 students.
The 3 feet does not matter. It just makes the classroom look like old school rows.

Classrooms can open at full capacity with 3 feet of distance.

That's neat but there are schools that are saying they can't open fully for all kids 5 days a week because they can't accommodate everyone with 3-foot distancing.

listen- you all need something to get uptight about.

Your schools can fit kids with 3 feet of distance. But you all just CANNOT give up with battle. The mom fight against the public schools.
Your children will be back in school. No doubt. I just hope we can keep the parents outside the front doors. That has been the best part of IPL.

This is literally what my school has told us. They can't open fully with 3-feet distancing. It is explicit.

But I see that you are arguing in bad faith and just trying to cause trouble. Good luck with your day.

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Anonymous wrote:She should call for an end to the virtual option
The virtual option will potentially mess things up, and other countries are not doing it.

Yes.
Our (big, DC) private school sent an email yesterday:

Everyone will be in-person, full time. There will be no remote classes. If your child has an extraordinary medical need and you need a remote option
for the entire school year you must reach out to the head of school by next week to discuss.

Schools need to draw a line in the sand or a small sector of parents will abuse it.

DCPS is going to have a harder time putting that genie back in the bottle though.

Agreed. DCPS has allowed schools to stay closed for far too long. Even now, not a single student goes to full time school with a teacher in the room teaching them in person. WTU loves this because now they can negotiate for all sorts of stuff just to get schools reopened. Virtual learning with reduced instructional time has become normalized.

This is not the case in many schools.

Which school has children back for full-time IPL?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

Wow. Not my people. They are enraged and comfortable with.

Yeah, super fun part of the pandemic was losing most of my mom friends based on this.

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MCPS is planning on a separate virtual academy. DCPS should do that too. I think in MCPS, the plan is that teachers hired to teach virtually will have to work from a specific location and not teach from home. Makes sense to me. They are asking parents now about who wants to stay virtual so they can figure out how many virtual teachers to hire. Students will not be allowed to switch back and forth between virtual and in-person.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

Wow. Not my people. They are enraged and comfortable with.

+1. Seems like a weird thing to get upset about, especially considering many teachers are also working mothers.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is planning on a separate virtual academy. DCPS should do that too. I think in MCPS, the plan is that teachers hired to teach virtually will have to work from a specific location and not teach from home. Makes sense to me. They are asking parents now about who wants to stay virtual so they can figure out how many virtual teachers to hire. Students will not be allowed to switch back and forth between virtual and in-person.

This sounds too sensible for DCPS. Watch them come up with some weird convoluted plan that makes no sense to anyone but the geniuses in central office

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Not to mention tens of millions of children's lives. But, hey, teachers didn't *feel* safe going back to school, even if doctors gave them the all clear a long time ago.

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To all who have suggested that DCPS should offer an online-only school option for next school year and beyond, DC public charter school Friendship PCS-Online has already done it.

https://fpcso.k12.com/

I don't have any experience with it and so can't vouch for its quality, but it's been around. And there's a HS ("Collegiate Academy" too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

Wow. Not my people. They are enraged and comfortable with.

Yeah, super fun part of the pandemic was losing most of my mom friends based on this.

I understand this completely. I have drawn back from neighborhood mom friends I used to see quite regularly who think school has been justifiably closed this entire time. I just don't get it. My sensible friends understand it's valid to question that and to complain about the impact on all of our careers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish this working mothers point had been made a wee bit earlier by her but better late than never.

Right like before shuttered schools forced 1 million plus women out of the workforce and damaged their earning prospects for some for the rest of their lives. But yeah. Way to go I guess?

Does anyone else have mother friends who seemed enraged that anyone pointed this out? Like it was this weird issue in my peer circle that if you were a mother you had to just suck it up and not say anything about your earnings prospects being altered for your lifetime.

They were enraged that people are enraged?

If you expressed annoyance/anger/frustration about your job prospects going to hell you obviously wanted teachers to die. I'm not really being hyperbolic about the language.

Yes, I experienced this. Not from close friends but from other women who pointed out my “privilege.” Which is ridiculous. I am a freelance writer and my spoiuse makes just $100k. One of their husbands is a law partner. The other is wealthy owning many properties.

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Anonymous wrote:Simulcast is extra work for teachers. In middle/high schools the current IPL is no different from distance learning because children are still on devices and the teacher teaches from the device. If teachers have dedicated DL classrooms it throws off planning for the school. There is no longer sufficient justification for this.

Correct. Online school needs to be a separate school.

Agree, and the lowest priority. So if that doesn't work, or there's not the funding for it, etc. etc. people have to homeschool. Which was the only option before.