Teachers union says schools "must" be fully reopened in the fall

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Anonymous wrote:- Get everyone vaccinated, so that those who can not get vaccinated for medical or religious reasons can also be safe.
- Get everyone wearing masks based on where they are in the school.
- Maintain social distance in the class room between desks. Allow kids who bring lunch to eat in the classroom or outdoors instead of crowded cafeterias.
- Leave the virtual option open for families that are travelling, kids who are unwell, for schools that need to close because of outbreaks, and for snow days.
- Leave schools open for the whole year so that closing it for some period of time due to any emergency does not result in loss of learning.
- Fix the air conditioning and heating, install solar panels, so that we can avoid airborne contagions.
- Insist on flu shots, booster shots in school for every one including the parents.

Yes, we must reopen the schools and we must also do every thing that the schools do not close. If that means vaccinations, masking, social distancing, temp checks etc then so be it.

Also, while we are doing all of this, it would be great if we could have metal detectors, more CCTV and other solutions in place to even curb gun violence and mass shootings in school.

There is no good way to keep social distancing in overcrowded schools. I don't want my child rushing back. I hope they offer virtual. Its not fair not to provide an education to those of us who don't feel its safe given there is no mandatory testing, optional masks, etc and kids aren't vaccinated.

You can homeschool or enroll in the online charter school. DCPS can’t cater to your irrational fears.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

Oh I agree. I just think it has changed the dynamic. But in the end it doesn’t really bother me much. This is a job, I never participated in the teacher appreciation stuff (thought it was dumb) and refused to accept any sort of gifts or gift card (it’s inappropriate and I’m not in a tipped job).

It had affected my colleagues a lot more. They thought parents and teachers were friends and on the same side. We are not. And I think it was about time for people to realize that.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

Oh I agree. I just think it has changed the dynamic. But in the end it doesn’t really bother me much. This is a job, I never participated in the teacher appreciation stuff (thought it was dumb) and refused to accept any sort of gifts or gift card (it’s inappropriate and I’m not in a tipped job).

It had affected my colleagues a lot more. They thought parents and teachers were friends and on the same side. We are not. And I think it was about time for people to realize that.

you and I are in agreement then, which somewhat ironically means I probably respect you more as a professional than the “we love teachers” crowd. my child’s best teachers have been the no-nonsense pros who did not care about parents but were fantastic at what they did.

[Anonymous]

What will we do next year when we can’t bash teachers? What else can we blame them for?

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

Oh I agree. I just think it has changed the dynamic. But in the end it doesn’t really bother me much. This is a job, I never participated in the teacher appreciation stuff (thought it was dumb) and refused to accept any sort of gifts or gift card (it’s inappropriate and I’m not in a tipped job).

It had affected my colleagues a lot more. They thought parents and teachers were friends and on the same side. We are not. And I think it was about time for people to realize that.

you and I are in agreement then, which somewhat ironically means I probably respect you more as a professional than the “we love teachers” crowd. my child’s best teachers have been the no-nonsense pros who did not care about parents but were fantastic at what they did.

All I need is respect. You don't give your doctor gifts but you respect them. Don't talk down to me and we'll have no issues. I'm not your mammy or slave, nor your kid's. I teach IPL out of choice but if I choose to continue DL you have a few options to hope you get another teacher, homeschool, private, move, etc. That is what people do when they don't like the free service provided. Teachers have been working, if you feel the quality has been lowered you have choices.

I however do not want to run a low quality classroom, can't blame others for choosing their family and kids over yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What will we do next year when we can’t bash teachers? What else can we blame them for?

what will teachers/teacher unions do next year when they can't pretend to be victims and don't have covid as a bargaining chip?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What will we do next year when we can’t bash teachers? What else can we blame them for?

what will teachers/teacher unions do next year when they can't pretend to be victims and don't have covid as a bargaining chip?

Probably teach like they have every other year, while still being underpaid and under appreciated

[Anonymous]

I can't relate to these threads. My school has such a warm, trusting relationship between admin, teachers and families. I could give examples but I suspect they'd fall on deaf ears. I'm so glad I teach where I teach.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't relate to these threads. My school has such a warm, trusting relationship between admin, teachers and families. I could give examples but I suspect they'd fall on deaf ears. I'm so glad I teach where I teach.

Honestly I can't either but I don't work at a NW school.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't relate to these threads. My school has such a warm, trusting relationship between admin, teachers and families. I could give examples but I suspect they'd fall on deaf ears. I'm so glad I teach where I teach.

Honestly I can't either but I don't work at a NW school.

I can’t either and I do work at a NW school.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't relate to these threads. My school has such a warm, trusting relationship between admin, teachers and families. I could give examples but I suspect they'd fall on deaf ears. I'm so glad I teach where I teach.

did you go on strike to keep my kid out of school? then you may need to consider that there are many parents who don’t regard you “warmly.”

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

Oh I agree. I just think it has changed the dynamic. But in the end it doesn’t really bother me much. This is a job, I never participated in the teacher appreciation stuff (thought it was dumb) and refused to accept any sort of gifts or gift card (it’s inappropriate and I’m not in a tipped job).

It had affected my colleagues a lot more. They thought parents and teachers were friends and on the same side. We are not. And I think it was about time for people to realize that.

you and I are in agreement then, which somewhat ironically means I probably respect you more as a professional than the “we love teachers” crowd. my child’s best teachers have been the no-nonsense pros who did not care about parents but were fantastic at what they did.

All I need is respect. You don't give your doctor gifts but you respect them. Don't talk down to me and we'll have no issues. I'm not your mammy or slave, nor your kid's. I teach IPL out of choice but if I choose to continue DL you have a few options to hope you get another teacher, homeschool, private, move, etc. That is what people do when they don't like the free service provided. Teachers have been working, if you feel the quality has been lowered you have choices.

I however do not want to run a low quality classroom, can't blame others for choosing their family and kids over yours.

FYI: you might want to take a civics lesson yourself. Public school isn't a "free service." We pay for it through our taxes. And respect is earned. I respect a lot of professionals. I lost respect for teachers who used a global pandemic as an excuse not to do their jobs while cosplaying as "front line" workers. And who continue to support a union that uses children as human shields to negotiate deals for themselves. I have just as much contempt for our mayor, who caved in to all of their demands. IPL shouldn't be a "choice" that teachers get to make based on what they "feel" is safe. It can and should always have been about the scientific evidence, which clearly showed it was safe to return. Your union rejected that in favor of lies and PR stunts.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason DC schools have been closed so long is because of WTU. Bowser wanted schools to reopen in August, the medical community said it was totally safe and teachers refused to go to work because they didn’t *feel* it was safe (and they’d get paid the same regardless of whether they showed up for work so it was no skin off their back). That’s the only reason schools have been closed so long even as schools in most of the rest of the country, not to mention private schools and daycares in DC, were open for business.

This. It's amazing how WTU members are now trying to pretend that this didn't happen.

yeah it was “just” a weency little strike to refuse to let SN kids return! totally not teachers’ fault.

I used to get really mad at DCUM until I went back to my WOTP school and realized that there maybe like 2% of the school community that thinks like the people on here and the rest actually understand that the situation was more complicated than “teachers hate kids”.
I’m glad you have your own weird little corner of the internet though. Better than having you lash out at me

Yeah, you have no idea whah people at your school think because they are scared to speak up. You can’t erase the fact that in November my child’s teachers - his actual teachers - went on strike specifically to keep him and the other kids with IEPs out of the classroom. But go on and reduce that to a caricature because it doesn’t match your little self-serving bubble. Like it or not DCUM is where you will actually hear what people think.

I agree. I now treat all parents as if they think I am useless trash. It really is a sad development but this has whole thing has pointed out to me what people really think when they are at home. Oh well

My kid’s teachers know exactly what I think, because I told them. They didn’t deserve to be insulated from the consequences of their actions. Now they have my child back in class and can see for themselves what a bad situation it is. There’s nothing “sad” about it. You took certain actions with predictable results.

Oh I agree. I just think it has changed the dynamic. But in the end it doesn’t really bother me much. This is a job, I never participated in the teacher appreciation stuff (thought it was dumb) and refused to accept any sort of gifts or gift card (it’s inappropriate and I’m not in a tipped job).

It had affected my colleagues a lot more. They thought parents and teachers were friends and on the same side. We are not. And I think it was about time for people to realize that.

you and I are in agreement then, which somewhat ironically means I probably respect you more as a professional than the “we love teachers” crowd. my child’s best teachers have been the no-nonsense pros who did not care about parents but were fantastic at what they did.

All I need is respect. You don't give your doctor gifts but you respect them. Don't talk down to me and we'll have no issues. I'm not your mammy or slave, nor your kid's. I teach IPL out of choice but if I choose to continue DL you have a few options to hope you get another teacher, homeschool, private, move, etc. That is what people do when they don't like the free service provided. Teachers have been working, if you feel the quality has been lowered you have choices.

I however do not want to run a low quality classroom, can't blame others for choosing their family and kids over yours.

FYI: you might want to take a civics lesson yourself. Public school isn't a "free service." We pay for it through our taxes. And respect is earned. I respect a lot of professionals. I lost respect for teachers who used a global pandemic as an excuse not to do their jobs while cosplaying as "front line" workers. And who continue to support a union that uses children as human shields to negotiate deals for themselves. I have just as much contempt for our mayor, who caved in to all of their demands. IPL shouldn't be a "choice" that teachers get to make based on what they "feel" is safe. It can and should always have been about the scientific evidence, which clearly showed it was safe to return. Your union rejected that in favor of lies and PR stunts.

And you need a lessening on budgeting and taxes. Your taxes don’t pay the full freight for what your kid gets. Go do the math - look up the percentage of the dc budget that goest to public schools. Then look at your dc taxes and do the percentage - you are getting a deal. So

Also a public education is a public good like clean water or safe roads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't relate to these threads. My school has such a warm, trusting relationship between admin, teachers and families. I could give examples but I suspect they'd fall on deaf ears. I'm so glad I teach where I teach.

did you go on strike to keep my kid out of school? then you may need to consider that there are many parents who don’t regard you “warmly.”

Nope, but I participated in a sick out because the plan created by the Chancellor and Mayor was not helpful for kids. Principals and teachers openly spoke out against it, and those are two sides that NEVER click (principals have also been in person since august so it wasn’t about staying home).