APS School Board meeting last night - who watched?

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Are you suggesting that Monique O'Grady does not listen to other speakers and just watches the clock until they are done?

I mean, if I was on the School Board, I would have stopped listening long time ago to these parents. And then if they came each time and told me to resign my job, then I would 100% just watch the clock while they were speaking.

I would also auto delete their emails....

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched. I totally disagree with the guy saying that the movement of teens from hybrid to virtual is because of the instructional model. It’s because their parents are allowing them to do so, plain and simple. Some of these people need to take responsibility for what’s happening with their children’s learning. If you let your kid get away with whatever, you can’t expect APS to fix that. Some people need to say no to their kids.

*sigh*

Just because the kids are moving back to virtual doesn't mean it's b/c they just want to mess around.

My MS aged kids stayed virtual even though there was the option to go back. They are old enough and aren't struggling with DL. Many of their friends also stayed in DL, so they have people to talk to during asynch time when they are actually doing their work. They can stay in pjs, sit with the dog during english class and snack during 8th period. They are 8th graders and have no interest in going back inside the building for social reasons b/c they have plenty of interaction without school and aren't at risk for the classroom quarantine. It would have been fine for them to go back, but I totally respect the decision to stay virtual since it's not impacting mental health or learning at all in our household.

I don’t have a problem with that. My guess is you aren’t going to the school board abs saying it’s because the instruction is awful.

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Was there any discussion about the COVID case data, discrepancies with report, W and L Outbreak they’re investigating?

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Are you suggesting that Monique O'Grady does not listen to other speakers and just watches the clock until they are done?

I mean, if I was on the School Board, I would have stopped listening long time ago to these parents. And then if they came each time and told me to resign my job, then I would 100% just watch the clock while they were speaking.

The child that MO cut off mid-sentence did not ask her to resign.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Are you suggesting that Monique O'Grady does not listen to other speakers and just watches the clock until they are done?

I mean, if I was on the School Board, I would have stopped listening long time ago to these parents. And then if they came each time and told me to resign my job, then I would 100% just watch the clock while they were speaking.

I would also auto delete their emails....

Some of these people speak every time. Why are they more important than everybody else? Arlington knows how you feel. Give someone else a turn.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Are you suggesting that Monique O'Grady does not listen to other speakers and just watches the clock until they are done?

I mean, if I was on the School Board, I would have stopped listening long time ago to these parents. And then if they came each time and told me to resign my job, then I would 100% just watch the clock while they were speaking.

I would also auto delete their emails....

Except for pesky things like the constitution.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Are you suggesting that Monique O'Grady does not listen to other speakers and just watches the clock until they are done?

I mean, if I was on the School Board, I would have stopped listening long time ago to these parents. And then if they came each time and told me to resign my job, then I would 100% just watch the clock while they were speaking.

I would also auto delete their emails....

Except for pesky things like the constitution.

The constitution says we have to read emails before we delete them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

Do you seriously buy into the spin that much? That is such a false narrative it is absurd. APS is so behind on RTS. How in the world is anyone okay with 2 days a week this year. Many of us sat on the sideline waiting for rates to go down and vaccination to ramp up. The "stay the course" crowd are the now the radicals. IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. Full stop. I can't believe folks are so dug in on this that can't see the obvious. And the parents trying to make this a race issue? Shame on them. They are the ones using POCs as pawns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was there any discussion about the COVID case data, discrepancies with report, W and L Outbreak they’re investigating?

Good question and I’d like to know the answer on this as well. Miranda’s supporters have decided that the risks for contracting COVID are low for their families and want the schools open while the some parents in Arlington, particularly POC, are not convinced of that. That was the biggest takeaway for me from watching the board meeting and the numbers released by APS on movement of hybrid/virtual.

It is sad to see how divided this county has gotten, and it’s along racial and economic lines. The rich parents are and have been taking their kids out of APS and putting them in private schools because they can’t get what they want from APS. Those kids who will remain in APS will be the real collateral damage from all this anger from these parents. Would not be surprised if APS sees the good teachers leave in droves.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s like the slow motion decline of a once solid county.

If only there were a way to put the angry white dads in their place.

Wow - AEM and SR must be having a slow day at work today...

No. they just are cool with time theft.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

The SB never waits until someone finishes their sentences tell them their time is up. The moment your two minutes are up, they interrupt you mid-sentence to thank you for you comments.

If you watch the meeting, you will hear Monique O’Grady cut off a child who was speaking in the middle of a sentence right at the two-minute mark. For he speaker in question here, the crowd did not make noise until she had run ten seconds beyond her time (and they did let her finish the sentence before they called out). It was only once the audience spoke up the Monique OGrady did anything to end the comments.

Maybe MO was listening to the speaker and processing what she was saying on behalf of her community. It was a different voice than the 100s of white privileged parents that have said the same thing over and over. As CDT said, "I hear you! We ALL hear you..... my job is to listen to every voice"

Can we all just calling all parents who want their kids to finally receive a real education "white privileged parents"?? Seriously - are you going to say that black/brown/latino families across the country don't want their kids in school? We moved to Arlington for the schools and are baffled at how poorly all of this is being handled.

No, because that’s what this is. That speaker was telling you that no, her community doesn’t want their kids back in school this year, so stop talking about them like you even know them. And also, this is the definition of privilege: we moved to Arlington for the schools. So, you are angry that you paid so much and aren’t getting your way. Listen to your own words. APS is not going to make decisions about how to operate because you paid a premium to live here “for the schools.”

I found it insulting that the speaker on behalf of latinos thinks we are such a monolith. I want my kids back 5 days. You don't speak for me.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

Do you seriously buy into the spin that much? That is such a false narrative it is absurd. APS is so behind on RTS. How in the world is anyone okay with 2 days a week this year. Many of us sat on the sideline waiting for rates to go down and vaccination to ramp up. The "stay the course" crowd are the now the radicals. IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. Full stop. I can't believe folks are so dug in on this that can't see the obvious. And the parents trying to make this a race issue? Shame on them. They are the ones using POCs as pawns.

So the POC who have told you to stop are now making themselves pawns? Okay, angry dad.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

Do you seriously buy into the spin that much? That is such a false narrative it is absurd. APS is so behind on RTS. How in the world is anyone okay with 2 days a week this year. Many of us sat on the sideline waiting for rates to go down and vaccination to ramp up. The "stay the course" crowd are the now the radicals. IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. Full stop. I can't believe folks are so dug in on this that can't see the obvious. And the parents trying to make this a race issue? Shame on them. They are the ones using POCs as pawns.

Uh...kids are back in school. You sound like that ridiculous TT guy on AEM.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

Do you seriously buy into the spin that much? That is such a false narrative it is absurd. APS is so behind on RTS. How in the world is anyone okay with 2 days a week this year. Many of us sat on the sideline waiting for rates to go down and vaccination to ramp up. The "stay the course" crowd are the now the radicals. IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. Full stop. I can't believe folks are so dug in on this that can't see the obvious. And the parents trying to make this a race issue? Shame on them. They are the ones using POCs as pawns.

Uh...kids are back in school. You sound like that ridiculous TT guy on AEM.

It is very concerning that people think 2 days a week of in-person instruction is school.

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Anonymous wrote:They shouted over a Latina mom who said her community had not been heard, does not want to go back in person because they're trying to survive, and is being used by others to justify opening.

To be clear, the shouting wasn’t because she was Latina or anything like that, it was because the school board was letting her run over the two minute limit when they held everyone expressing a different view strictly to the two minute limit. I’m not part of APE and I think they are extreme in their views, but it very much came across as the school board selectively enforcing the rules based on the content of the speech, which is extremely problematic.

Why wouldn’t people be upset when the rules are unevenly applied? I think shouting someone down is reprehensible, but I certainly understand the frustration. Using accusations of racism as a cudgel to shut down the opposition may be effective, but the people who fall for it are weak minded.

How many other people did they scream over the very second their time ended?

None. Just the Latina. It's not like she went way over. She was finishing her sentence and the Board chair was about to cut her off and did.

APE was not happy that they got called out for using brown kids as pawns.

Do you seriously buy into the spin that much? That is such a false narrative it is absurd. APS is so behind on RTS. How in the world is anyone okay with 2 days a week this year. Many of us sat on the sideline waiting for rates to go down and vaccination to ramp up. The "stay the course" crowd are the now the radicals. IT IS TIME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL. Full stop. I can't believe folks are so dug in on this that can't see the obvious. And the parents trying to make this a race issue? Shame on them. They are the ones using POCs as pawns.

Uh...kids are back in school. You sound like that ridiculous TT guy on AEM.

It is very concerning that people think 2 days a week of in-person instruction is school.

With shortened hours every day and nothing on Mondays.