Credit where credit is due: DC has improved Resident Vaccine Coverage

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Who is this crazy person who don't want people to get vaccinated even though vaccine is available?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are giving kudos to DC because any resident with a car / wherewithal is fleeing to MD to get vaccinated. Almost feels like that was DCs "strategy" in the 1st place.

It’s disgusting that DC residents are getting the vaccine in MD. DC gov’t had a horrible roll-out, but there is no honor among thieves, and stealing vaccines from MD residents is appalling.

Eh. The region has to recover as a whole for anything to work, so whatever gets more vaccines in bloodstreams is fine by me, even if DC intentionally botched their rollout.

Eh, it’s pretty immoral to drive to PG or rural MD and lie, cheat, steal your way into a vaccine to which you are not entitled, that’s pretty much the definition of white privilege. It’s nutty that DC allowed all this people who work from home in Fredericksburg or Annapolis and are not required to come in to be able to be vaccinated in DC, agreed, but that doesn’t ethically excuse vaccine “hunters” traipsing in to poor areas get vaccinated.

The FEMA sites in Maryland are open to all federal taxpayers as they should be. Stop hoarding.

No they are not - they are people who live/work in MD. They were set up in MD b/c MD has done an awful job of rolling out the vaccine. That's why MD has a FEMA site. Many of us in DC are doing the ethical thing and waiting our turn - your apparent choice to go to PG for a vaccine that you are not qualified for is Trumpy.

The governor of MD expressly stated the Greenbelt site had no residential restrictions. Stop focusing on people who are getting the vaccine as the problem with equity. There is plenty of supply right now. The equity issue is because governments planned the rollout in a stupid way, failing to focus on the highest risk first by age; and is not conducting enough outreach to communities. Meanwhile, vaccine hesitancy is still a real thing.

No, he did not. He said that Greenbelt was for people who live or work in MD. There are many problems with equity - and one of them is "good liberals" with self-maximizing moral compasses that convinces them that driving to Salisbury (dumb Trumpers don't want the vaccine) or PG (ignorant BIPOC don't want the vaccine). There actually isn't "vaccine hesitancy" among BIPOC in metro areas (nice try - clutch racial stereotypes are your jam). There is vaccine hesitancy among white republican men with some/no college in rural areas - but instead of allowing low demand to redistribute vaccines to population-dense areas, DC vaccine hunters (vampires) are creating artificial demand in rural areas and going to mass vax sites in Baltimore and PG. What ever ethical gymnastics gets your through the night, I guess- but you are absolutely part of the problem.

First of all, you are wrong about the Greenbelt site. There was a lot of media coverage stating it is for all DMV residents, and they are registering and vaccinating people who use their DC address.

Second of all, what makes you think that cutting off the Greenbelt site from DC residents helps equity? Did you stop to think that POC DC residents can ALSO go to Greenbelt?

Third, what makes you think that white DC residents going to Greenbelt (or Salisbury or wherever) is taking a vaccine away from a DC or MD POC? The sites are open to all, and have plenty of appointments right now. To the extent there is an equity problem it is because vulnerable communities are not getting the right outreach and access brought to them. We need to go right to the neighborhoods where people are. That has ZERO to do with a white person driving to Salisbury, and everything to do with the DC/MD governments' failure to plan outreach efforts.

The media coverage was that they expected to vaccinate a lot of people from DC and VA BECAUSE THEY WORK IN MARYLAND, e.g., at NASA which is in Greenbelt.

I cannot believe that you are ignorant to think that DC residents going to Baltimore or PG is not taking a vaccine away from people who live or work in those areas. FFS.

By that token, just enroll your kid in Maryland schools, collect Maryland unemployment, whatever. All of these institutions are funded by federal+state dollars and resources. Selfish is as selfish does.

Oh ffs. There is literally NO support for your position that the Greenbelt site (which is a FEDERAL site run with FEDERAL money and FEDERAL personnel) is limited to MD. Instead, the articles clearly say all are welcome:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/coronavirus/vaccine-site-at-greenbelt-metro-to-offer-shots-to-anyone-not-just-marylanders/2632407/

You have zero credibility. The problem with equity is a lack of information, outreach, and support, NOT supply or DC residents "stealing" vaccines: "In early March in Montgomery County, 66% of the county’s white residents were preregistered for the COVID vaccine despite making up 43% of the population. Meanwhile, only 8% of Black residents were preregistered while making up 18% of the population and only 9% of Latino residents were preregistered despite accounting for 20% of Montgomery County’s population, according to a letter from the Montgomery County Council sent to Gov. Hogan."

You have zero credibility, ethics, or reading comprehension. You are complicit in vaccine inequity - get on with selfish self - yikes.

I've personally helped several people access vaccine appointments who wouldn't have been able to do so otherwise. What have you done to actually help, other than creating these absurd rules for yourself and others?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this crazy person who don't want people to get vaccinated even though vaccine is available?

S/he reminds me of the anti-redshirt poster, who is adamantly opposed to redshirting as "cheating" (even though redshirting is allowed).

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Are lifeguards certified health care providers in MD? They have to have Red Cross certification to provide health care as a first responder.

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Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

Wow. I couldn't believe today's article re: CVS and Walgreens. Un-be-lieve-able.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are giving kudos to DC because any resident with a car / wherewithal is fleeing to MD to get vaccinated. Almost feels like that was DCs "strategy" in the 1st place.

It’s disgusting that DC residents are getting the vaccine in MD. DC gov’t had a horrible roll-out, but there is no honor among thieves, and stealing vaccines from MD residents is appalling.

Eh. The region has to recover as a whole for anything to work, so whatever gets more vaccines in bloodstreams is fine by me, even if DC intentionally botched their rollout.

Eh, it’s pretty immoral to drive to PG or rural MD and lie, cheat, steal your way into a vaccine to which you are not entitled, that’s pretty much the definition of white privilege. It’s nutty that DC allowed all this people who work from home in Fredericksburg or Annapolis and are not required to come in to be able to be vaccinated in DC, agreed, but that doesn’t ethically excuse vaccine “hunters” traipsing in to poor areas get vaccinated.

The FEMA sites in Maryland are open to all federal taxpayers as they should be. Stop hoarding.

No they are not - they are people who live/work in MD. They were set up in MD b/c MD has done an awful job of rolling out the vaccine. That's why MD has a FEMA site. Many of us in DC are doing the ethical thing and waiting our turn - your apparent choice to go to PG for a vaccine that you are not qualified for is Trumpy.

You are incredibly ill-informed. I guess the DC Council, which is encouraging this, is Trumpy. That will be a surprise to them!

Considering that some people on the DC council think Jews control the weather and jet-set to Egypt in the middle of the pandemic, your reliance on their morality is ill-informed.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

Wow. I couldn't believe today's article re: CVS and Walgreens. Un-be-lieve-able.

I already have first and second appts at CVS. What are the chances the city will cancel my appointments?

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this crazy person who don't want people to get vaccinated even though vaccine is available?

Do you mean Mayor Bowser or someone else in city government? The Council has been pretty happy to keep shots out of the wrong arms, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are giving kudos to DC because any resident with a car / wherewithal is fleeing to MD to get vaccinated. Almost feels like that was DCs "strategy" in the 1st place.

+1. Watch and Bowser will somehow take credit for all of the dc residents that scoured the area and got vaccinated in other states.

She is vaccinating ONLY who she deems is deserving of it. Evidence: Giant no longer requesting vaccines in DC since Bowser won’t let them run their own appointment schedules.

She and her band of other unqualified, incompetents want to maintain control.

Silverman did just that on Twitter. At first she was all butt hurt about residents going out of town for vaccines. Then she changed her tune and says that because all allotments are from the Federal government, DC gets credit for wherever a resident gets their federal vaccine, whether in DC or elsewhere.

How kind of Elissa Silverman to recognize that the vaccine allottments are a Federally-provided resource intended for all Americans regardless of where they live! Now how does that square with her support for DC's denying residents based on zipcode. It either belongs to all of us or it doesn't, and she was part of the process of demonizing the "wrong" DC residents for simply trying to follow DC's process for signing up for the shots they were supposed to be eligible for.

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

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This should be a front-page story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-pharmacies/2021/04/12/788a6b00-9b9a-11eb-8005-bffc3a39f6d3_story.html

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe we are giving kudos to DC because any resident with a car / wherewithal is fleeing to MD to get vaccinated. Almost feels like that was DCs "strategy" in the 1st place.

It’s disgusting that DC residents are getting the vaccine in MD. DC gov’t had a horrible roll-out, but there is no honor among thieves, and stealing vaccines from MD residents is appalling.

Eh. The region has to recover as a whole for anything to work, so whatever gets more vaccines in bloodstreams is fine by me, even if DC intentionally botched their rollout.

Eh, it’s pretty immoral to drive to PG or rural MD and lie, cheat, steal your way into a vaccine to which you are not entitled, that’s pretty much the definition of white privilege. It’s nutty that DC allowed all this people who work from home in Fredericksburg or Annapolis and are not required to come in to be able to be vaccinated in DC, agreed, but that doesn’t ethically excuse vaccine “hunters” traipsing in to poor areas get vaccinated.

The FEMA sites in Maryland are open to all federal taxpayers as they should be. Stop hoarding.

No they are not - they are people who live/work in MD. They were set up in MD b/c MD has done an awful job of rolling out the vaccine. That's why MD has a FEMA site. Many of us in DC are doing the ethical thing and waiting our turn - your apparent choice to go to PG for a vaccine that you are not qualified for is Trumpy.

The governor of MD expressly stated the Greenbelt site had no residential restrictions. Stop focusing on people who are getting the vaccine as the problem with equity. There is plenty of supply right now. The equity issue is because governments planned the rollout in a stupid way, failing to focus on the highest risk first by age; and is not conducting enough outreach to communities. Meanwhile, vaccine hesitancy is still a real thing.

No, he did not. He said that Greenbelt was for people who live or work in MD. There are many problems with equity - and one of them is "good liberals" with self-maximizing moral compasses that convinces them that driving to Salisbury (dumb Trumpers don't want the vaccine) or PG (ignorant BIPOC don't want the vaccine). There actually isn't "vaccine hesitancy" among BIPOC in metro areas (nice try - clutch racial stereotypes are your jam). There is vaccine hesitancy among white republican men with some/no college in rural areas - but instead of allowing low demand to redistribute vaccines to population-dense areas, DC vaccine hunters (vampires) are creating artificial demand in rural areas and going to mass vax sites in Baltimore and PG. What ever ethical gymnastics gets your through the night, I guess- but you are absolutely part of the problem.

First of all, you are wrong about the Greenbelt site. There was a lot of media coverage stating it is for all DMV residents, and they are registering and vaccinating people who use their DC address.

Second of all, what makes you think that cutting off the Greenbelt site from DC residents helps equity? Did you stop to think that POC DC residents can ALSO go to Greenbelt?

Third, what makes you think that white DC residents going to Greenbelt (or Salisbury or wherever) is taking a vaccine away from a DC or MD POC? The sites are open to all, and have plenty of appointments right now. To the extent there is an equity problem it is because vulnerable communities are not getting the right outreach and access brought to them. We need to go right to the neighborhoods where people are. That has ZERO to do with a white person driving to Salisbury, and everything to do with the DC/MD governments' failure to plan outreach efforts.

The media coverage was that they expected to vaccinate a lot of people from DC and VA BECAUSE THEY WORK IN MARYLAND, e.g., at NASA which is in Greenbelt.

I cannot believe that you are ignorant to think that DC residents going to Baltimore or PG is not taking a vaccine away from people who live or work in those areas. FFS.

By that token, just enroll your kid in Maryland schools, collect Maryland unemployment, whatever. All of these institutions are funded by federal+state dollars and resources. Selfish is as selfish does.

Oh ffs. There is literally NO support for your position that the Greenbelt site (which is a FEDERAL site run with FEDERAL money and FEDERAL personnel) is limited to MD. Instead, the articles clearly say all are welcome:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/coronavirus/vaccine-site-at-greenbelt-metro-to-offer-shots-to-anyone-not-just-marylanders/2632407/

You have zero credibility. The problem with equity is a lack of information, outreach, and support, NOT supply or DC residents "stealing" vaccines: "In early March in Montgomery County, 66% of the county’s white residents were preregistered for the COVID vaccine despite making up 43% of the population. Meanwhile, only 8% of Black residents were preregistered while making up 18% of the population and only 9% of Latino residents were preregistered despite accounting for 20% of Montgomery County’s population, according to a letter from the Montgomery County Council sent to Gov. Hogan."

You have zero credibility, ethics, or reading comprehension. You are complicit in vaccine inequity - get on with selfish self - yikes.

I've personally helped several people access vaccine appointments who wouldn't have been able to do so otherwise. What have you done to actually help, other than creating these absurd rules for yourself and others?

I have personally helped and driven elderly DC residents to mass vaccination at St. Elizabeth, and elderly MoCo residents to mass vaccination in Baltimore. I have done at least some small part to assist with vaccine inequity - and I have done so by actually following state rules and not jumping in line 'cause I can. Your moral compass is obviously calibrated very differently - ultimately, you will beg, borrow, or steal for your own self-preservation. You have to live with your choices. Just spare us the instagram of your millennial selfishness getting vaccinated in North Carolina. It's gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Who is this crazy person who don't want people to get vaccinated even though vaccine is available?

S/he reminds me of the anti-redshirt poster, who is adamantly opposed to redshirting as "cheating" (even though redshirting is allowed).

I know right, if poor BIPOC and Trumpers can't get the vaccine, maybe they should like, die it out or something. It's like survival of the fittest, bro, amiright?

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Anonymous wrote:Another day, another Washington Post article explaining how the Bowser administration is deliberately slowing vaccine distribution in the city so that the service for middle class citizens can be just as shtty and poorly distributed as it is for poor citizens.

link?

This should be a front-page story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-vaccine-pharmacies/2021/04/12/788a6b00-9b9a-11eb-8005-bffc3a39f6d3_story.html

This is a total debacle: "Seiji Hayashi, a medical director of Mary’s Center, one of the largest clinics, said that as of early April, Mary’s Center had vaccinated 2,400 of its 60,000 patients."

I'm sorry, but if you are a health care provider to 60,000 vulnerable people and you have not managed to vaccinate even ONE PERCENT of them, you have totally failed. Mary's Center should have been aggressively distributing its vaccine to patients, or working with them to register with the city or pharmacies.

As it stands now, registering at CVS or Walgreens or in MD is the best way you can help someone get the vaccine. I just did it for an elderly African American man last week. The DC system where on the one hand, they aren't making the independne providers actually reach their clients, and on the other hand, are relying almost wholly on the portal, is just NOT going to reach the vulnerable.