Equity in vaccine distribution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MD, DC, and VA are not doing a good job getting shots in arms. This is what will stop the pandemic; not everything is about "equity". We are supply-constrained. When we are demand-constrained, let's worry about people who don't want the dang shots. Every rule meant to address an inequity or impose "fairness" will slow down vaccination rates and make it more likely that new variants will get a foothold, and we will *all* lose another summer / fall to Covid. West Virginia has the highest vax rate in the contiguous U.S. because they've kept it simple. This has been nothing but a bureaucratic mess since the start in the DMV, and every new special interest group has made it worse. All of these additional "setting aside" and "quotas" will hurt everyone.

Spoken like a true white supremacist. DC and VA are exceeding national vaccination averages. The only thing that's slowing us is the limited number of vaccines available. Targeting high risk populations HELP to end the pandemic, which HELPS ALL OF US. Giving extra doses to wealthy retirees in Ward 3 rather than poor folks in Ward 5 is literally the opposite of good public health policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yup. This is what I have to say . The population of DC, including children, is around 700,000. If DC focused on simply vaccinating ADULT residents in a simple fashion, we should be moving through this much more quickly. By all means vaccinate truly essential workers from other states actually currently working in DC RIGHT NOW and yes, the DCPS teachers you wish to lute back. But remember that if you don't really winnow and check those categories you will be extending that effort to vaccinate broad categories of "workers" to folks Zooming from MD or VA who have no intention of setting foot in the city until all this is over. Put them after residents. or let them seek vaccines in their own states. I see nothing to brag about that we have vaccinated only 9% of the population with a first dose (about 2% with a second) in a city this tiny.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Washington,_D.C.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just give it to all the POC first, and eliminate any possibility of bickering. Because that’s the only option where someone isn’t bleating “that’s racist!” .

I’m white, and will happily go to the end of the line just to get people to STFU.

Unfortunately that's where we are for the next 100 years. Reparations are going to be in the form of legal discrimination against white people in all aspects of society. Vaccine distribution being just one anecdote of the new normal.

This will lead to more white supremacists-if you think white supremacists groups are not out there waiting to target white children who feel discriminated against (not saying they are) or who are now being told they are not equal but have to go to the back of the line. I don't know the answer but I don't think we want this to be it legal discrimination of white people-discrimination in all forms causes resentment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just give it to all the POC first, and eliminate any possibility of bickering. Because that’s the only option where someone isn’t bleating “that’s racist!” .

I’m white, and will happily go to the end of the line just to get people to STFU.

Unfortunately that's where we are for the next 100 years. Reparations are going to be in the form of legal discrimination against white people in all aspects of society. Vaccine distribution being just one anecdote of the new normal.

This will lead to more white supremacists-if you think white supremacists groups are not out there waiting to target white children who feel discriminated against (not saying they are) or who are now being told they are not equal but have to go to the back of the line. I don't know the answer but I don't think we want this to be it legal discrimination of white people-discrimination in all forms causes resentment.

In other words, equality feels like discrimination to White people.

White people have gotten more vaccines so crying discrimination against Whites is so hilarious that I have to call TROLL.

[Anonymous]

Could DC just go ahead and make it compulsory in Ward 8? Wrap it up quickly with all the adult residents there, and then we could just do a simple vaccine campaign for other residents who want them, moving through the CDC recommendations in a gently overlapping way to avoid bottlenecks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

That is another falsehood. Vaccines are distributed on the basis of population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MD, DC, and VA are not doing a good job getting shots in arms. This is what will stop the pandemic; not everything is about "equity". We are supply-constrained. When we are demand-constrained, let's worry about people who don't want the dang shots. Every rule meant to address an inequity or impose "fairness" will slow down vaccination rates and make it more likely that new variants will get a foothold, and we will *all* lose another summer / fall to Covid. West Virginia has the highest vax rate in the contiguous U.S. because they've kept it simple. This has been nothing but a bureaucratic mess since the start in the DMV, and every new special interest group has made it worse. All of these additional "setting aside" and "quotas" will hurt everyone.

Spoken like a true white supremacist. DC and VA are exceeding national vaccination averages. The only thing that's slowing us is the limited number of vaccines available. Targeting high risk populations HELP to end the pandemic, which HELPS ALL OF US. Giving extra doses to wealthy retirees in Ward 3 rather than poor folks in Ward 5 is literally the opposite of good public health policy.

This comment was mean and not necessary. In fact, starting with a statement like that totally discounts everything else that you say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:MD, DC, and VA are not doing a good job getting shots in arms. This is what will stop the pandemic; not everything is about "equity". We are supply-constrained. When we are demand-constrained, let's worry about people who don't want the dang shots. Every rule meant to address an inequity or impose "fairness" will slow down vaccination rates and make it more likely that new variants will get a foothold, and we will *all* lose another summer / fall to Covid. West Virginia has the highest vax rate in the contiguous U.S. because they've kept it simple. This has been nothing but a bureaucratic mess since the start in the DMV, and every new special interest group has made it worse. All of these additional "setting aside" and "quotas" will hurt everyone.

Spoken like a true white supremacist. DC and VA are exceeding national vaccination averages. The only thing that's slowing us is the limited number of vaccines available. Targeting high risk populations HELP to end the pandemic, which HELPS ALL OF US. Giving extra doses to wealthy retirees in Ward 3 rather than poor folks in Ward 5 is literally the opposite of good public health policy.

This comment was mean and not necessary. In fact, starting with a statement like that totally discounts everything else that you say.

I don't care if you think it's mean. There are posters here who continue to lie and lie and lie to defend the indefensible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

That is another falsehood. Vaccines are distributed on the basis of population.

According to the CDC web tracker, DC has been distributed about 159,000 vaccine so far and administered about 89,000. Does that sound efficient to you? 159, 000 is well on the way to a quarter of our adult population, if they got it into people's arms. Who has the responsibility for that? DC.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

That is another falsehood. Vaccines are distributed on the basis of population.

According to the CDC web tracker, DC has been distributed about 159,000 vaccine so far and administered about 89,000. Does that sound efficient to you? 159, 000 is well on the way to a quarter of our adult population, if they got it into people's arms. Who has the responsibility for that? DC.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Second doses, einstein

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

That is another falsehood. Vaccines are distributed on the basis of population.

According to the CDC web tracker, DC has been distributed about 159,000 vaccine so far and administered about 89,000. Does that sound efficient to you? 159, 000 is well on the way to a quarter of our adult population, if they got it into people's arms. Who has the responsibility for that? DC.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Second doses, einstein

Total doses administered: 85,000. Click on DC Einstein. It's in what would be the Atlantic, off to the side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's an article in the Post today about the states that are doing the best job of distributing the vaccine. The common denominator seems to be simplicity. Complicating the process by trying to refine prioritization, or racial equity, or whatever, slows down the process. Create broad categories: health care workers, people over 70, whatever; don't overthink it. Either create big vaccination sites (stadiums, convention centers) or use existing infrastructure (pharmacies) and get it going.
Everyone is better off if more people are vaccinated more quickly.

Yes, every new category of who gets priority and who doesn't slows down the process. Breaking it down to a granular level based on zip code is just another roadblock for people trying to figure if/how/when to get a vaccine.

DC should have set up large vaccination sites, like you said, and just had the DC National Guard provide vaccines wholesale. Instead, the government is lost in the weeds, and trying to fiddle with vaccination priority in real time.

All the appointments are being given out. All the shots are being used. There is no ROADBLOCK.

I am in favor of mass vaccine sites, but so far we aren't seeing them in this area. With a mere 9-10K shots per week to give out, there isn't a point to it in DC.

the more they give, the more they can request so it is reasonable to ask for this process to be both speedier and more transparent.

That is another falsehood. Vaccines are distributed on the basis of population.

According to the CDC web tracker, DC has been distributed about 159,000 vaccine so far and administered about 89,000. Does that sound efficient to you? 159, 000 is well on the way to a quarter of our adult population, if they got it into people's arms. Who has the responsibility for that? DC.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Second doses, einstein

Total doses administered: 85,000. Click on DC Einstein. It's in what would be the Atlantic, off to the side.

And if you are referring to 2nd doses, all states have been told to not "hold back vaccines for second doses". Has DC gone rogue?