Breaking news: Montgomery Co revises mask order, crushing the hopes of the mask police

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Anonymous wrote:I love these threads.

Grown adults discussing not wearing masks, little tiny pieces of cloth that are non invasive, that just might save one life.

Trumpers, selfish idiots who made this all possible. Pandemic is on you. Thanks so much...

If it's non-invasive, please wear one while sleeping. We won't have to hear from you again.

This "argument" (I hesitate to even call it one) is moronic. You are making PPs point about being a selfish idiot...

Please wear one while sleeping also. Less busybodies are better for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh -still not clear, which means people won't wear masks when they should. Like walking on crowded sidewalk - maybe passing is fleeting, but walking behind someone who isn't wearing their mask may be risky. And what about waiting at the light where people are standing still. Do those count as fleeting?

Right. If those things scare you, stay home.

Why should I stay home so that you can stroll Bethesda Avenue without a mask?

Who knew there were so many covidiots in MoCo - I guess that explains our high infection rates. Even hospitals are getting closer to capacity now. But yes, you should still have a right not to wear a mask in public.

The counterargument to this is obvious.

Not really. You are required to wear clothes outside. You are required to have a drivers license to drive a car. What shouldn't you be required to wear a mask in public during a pandemic for everyone's safety?

Remember we are returning to normal society now - your Trumpy behavior is no longer okay.

Because running without a mask while keeping your distance does not have anything to do with safety.

My example was walking on public sidewalks on a busy shopping street, not running.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of the Covid Karens are going to be pulling out tape measures to scream and yell about “six feet, six feet!” as they prowl the streets, ready pounce on anyone they deem to be breaking their interpretation of an incredibly poorly written mandate.... I bet they made excellent hall monitors back in grade school.

Zero. This doesn't happen. No matter how desperate you are to feel like you're being oppressed.

Wrong. There was a nutty woman running around Beach Drive in Kensington last weekend, when the road closes on weekends for people to use. She’d walk up to people walking without masks, and start shouting at them for walking too close to people without a mask. I actually SAW it happen, she was on one side of the road and crossed all the way to the other side of the road and started shouting at a woman walking her dog. Went right up to her and got in her face. I was on the verge of yelling at her when the woman with the dog told her to F-off and said if she didn’t get away from her she was going to punch her in the face. At that point, I shouted over to the woman with the dog that “I’ll be her witness that this loony woman started the whole thing and you were defending yourself”, at which point the crazy woman told me to mind my own business, and then shuffled away. People are nuts, and this whole mask thing is empowering them.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh -still not clear, which means people won't wear masks when they should. Like walking on crowded sidewalk - maybe passing is fleeting, but walking behind someone who isn't wearing their mask may be risky. And what about waiting at the light where people are standing still. Do those count as fleeting?

Right. If those things scare you, stay home.

Why should I stay home so that you can stroll Bethesda Avenue without a mask?

Who knew there were so many covidiots in MoCo - I guess that explains our high infection rates. Even hospitals are getting closer to capacity now. But yes, you should still have a right not to wear a mask in public.

The counterargument to this is obvious.

Not really. You are required to wear clothes outside. You are required to have a drivers license to drive a car. What shouldn't you be required to wear a mask in public during a pandemic for everyone's safety?

Remember we are returning to normal society now - your Trumpy behavior is no longer okay.

We could argue about whether you should or shouldn't be required to wear a mask in various situations, but the simple fact is that it's not required by this health order or the local executive order in many situations when you're outside.

If that makes you uncomfortable, then it's up to you to modify your behavior to make yourself feel better. That might mean staying home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder how many of the Covid Karens are going to be pulling out tape measures to scream and yell about “six feet, six feet!” as they prowl the streets, ready pounce on anyone they deem to be breaking their interpretation of an incredibly poorly written mandate.... I bet they made excellent hall monitors back in grade school.

Zero. This doesn't happen. No matter how desperate you are to feel like you're being oppressed.

Wrong. There was a nutty woman running around Beach Drive in Kensington last weekend, when the road closes on weekends for people to use. She’d walk up to people walking without masks, and start shouting at them for walking too close to people without a mask. I actually SAW it happen, she was on one side of the road and crossed all the way to the other side of the road and started shouting at a woman walking her dog. Went right up to her and got in her face. I was on the verge of yelling at her when the woman with the dog told her to F-off and said if she didn’t get away from her she was going to punch her in the face. At that point, I shouted over to the woman with the dog that “I’ll be her witness that this loony woman started the whole thing and you were defending yourself”, at which point the crazy woman told me to mind my own business, and then shuffled away. People are nuts, and this whole mask thing is empowering them.

+1 I posted a comment earlier today that appears to have been deleted for some reason, but I have seen multiple instances where people are walking along the very wide suburban streets near my house in Bethesda and are accosted by women who want to tell them off for not wearing masksOr not wearing masks properly. These are situations where no one is within 10 or even 20 feet of each other before the crazy self-appointed mask police close the distance to scream at their targets.

The standard that DC has, and I think MoCo now does, requiring people to wear a mask outdoors if they will be within 6 feet of another for more than a fleeting moment makes perfect sense. A blanket rule requiring masks outdoors at all times regardless of the circumstance and setting is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh -still not clear, which means people won't wear masks when they should. Like walking on crowded sidewalk - maybe passing is fleeting, but walking behind someone who isn't wearing their mask may be risky. And what about waiting at the light where people are standing still. Do those count as fleeting?

Right. If those things scare you, stay home.

Why should I stay home so that you can stroll Bethesda Avenue without a mask?

Who knew there were so many covidiots in MoCo - I guess that explains our high infection rates. Even hospitals are getting closer to capacity now. But yes, you should still have a right not to wear a mask in public.

The counterargument to this is obvious.

Not really. You are required to wear clothes outside. You are required to have a drivers license to drive a car. What shouldn't you be required to wear a mask in public during a pandemic for everyone's safety?

Remember we are returning to normal society now - your Trumpy behavior is no longer okay.

We could argue about whether you should or shouldn't be required to wear a mask in various situations, but the simple fact is that it's not required by this health order or the local executive order in many situations when you're outside.

If that makes you uncomfortable, then it's up to you to modify your behavior to make yourself feel better. That might mean staying home.

+1000

It would be one thing if covid were spread in passing someone outside (even much less than 6ft) but there is zero evidence that it does.

So if it brings you mental anguish to see or pass by unmasked people, either modify own your behavior or stay home. The risk of covid in a brief pass is zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish this happened in MoCo too, but it doesn't. Have never seen or heard a Covid Karen. I get made fun of for putting a mask on and keeping my distance.

I see people all over Olney walking on busy paths with not a mask in sight.

Is the contact fleeting or more than 6'? A mask is not necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Persons leaving their residences shall wear a face covering when they are likely to come into contact with another person, such as being within six feet of another person for more than a fleeting time.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/Resources/Files/health-officer-directive-AM-201124.pdf

Isn't that what was already in place?

No. Mask were only required indoors.

Previously masks were required outdoors where social distancing was not possible. It's almost the same thing.

Yes masks were required outdoors if you are in crowds, thanks for the clarification.

It’s not really different, its a clarification.

Or if you're walking on a street where you're likely to be going the same direction as other people. Someone walking in front of you for a block is not fleeting. Passing someone and stopping because your dog is pooping is not fleeting.

Basically if you're walking in the city, you have a mask on. If you're running, and plan to step off the sidewalk to pass, or something like that it's not.

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Anonymous wrote:Persons leaving their residences shall wear a face covering when they are likely to come into contact with another person, such as being within six feet of another person for more than a fleeting time.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/Resources/Files/health-officer-directive-AM-201124.pdf

Isn't that what was already in place?

No. Mask were only required indoors.

Previously masks were required outdoors where social distancing was not possible. It's almost the same thing.

Yes masks were required outdoors if you are in crowds, thanks for the clarification.

It’s not really different, its a clarification.

Or if you're walking on a street where you're likely to be going the same direction as other people. Someone walking in front of you for a block is not fleeting. Passing someone and stopping because your dog is pooping is not fleeting.

Basically if you're walking in the city, you have a mask on. If you're running, and plan to step off the sidewalk to pass, or something like that it's not.

You're not going to catch covid in any of the scenarios that you mentioned. If it bothers you, by all means remove yourself from the scenario, but this is not a covid risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Persons leaving their residences shall wear a face covering when they are likely to come into contact with another person, such as being within six feet of another person for more than a fleeting time.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/Resources/Files/health-officer-directive-AM-201124.pdf

Isn't that what was already in place?

No. Mask were only required indoors.

Previously masks were required outdoors where social distancing was not possible. It's almost the same thing.

Yes masks were required outdoors if you are in crowds, thanks for the clarification.

It’s not really different, its a clarification.

Or if you're walking on a street where you're likely to be going the same direction as other people. Someone walking in front of you for a block is not fleeting. Passing someone and stopping because your dog is pooping is not fleeting.

Basically if you're walking in the city, you have a mask on. If you're running, and plan to step off the sidewalk to pass, or something like that it's not.

I think what you're describing is generally good practice, but I'd caution you to make a clearer distinction between what is good practice and what is required by law.

[Anonymous]

I trust science. And science tells us there is no danger from someone walking by you two yards away.

I realize this is counter to the holy Dogma of covid-religion, but science often finds itself at-odds with the church.

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Anonymous wrote:I trust science. And science tells us there is no danger from someone walking by you two yards away.

I realize this is counter to the holy Dogma of covid-religion, but science often finds itself at-odds with the church.

I'm mostly on your side, but I think you're exaggerating here. Brief/fleeting encounters are not zero risk. They're just very low risk. And the exposure risk from encounters are roughly cumulative.

Walk past a couple people on an upcounty trail? No big deal. Walk past a couple hundred people on a crowded sidewalk in DC? Yeah, that is probably legitimately concerning.

[Anonymous]

Phew, I just took my second felony-level run with my mask around my neck, only pulling it on when within 20 feet of people. I thought I might never see my family again, dreading the mask police van running me down and throwing me in jail. As I was running by all the people eating and laughing on the streetery in Bethesda Row, I realized that I could run in there and quickly order a beer, thus escaping Gayles and his mask gestapo... but I’d have to be quick.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Persons leaving their residences shall wear a face covering when they are likely to come into contact with another person, such as being within six feet of another person for more than a fleeting time.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/Resources/Files/health-officer-directive-AM-201124.pdf

Isn't that what was already in place?

No. Mask were only required indoors.

Previously masks were required outdoors where social distancing was not possible. It's almost the same thing.

Yes masks were required outdoors if you are in crowds, thanks for the clarification.

It’s not really different, its a clarification.

Or if you're walking on a street where you're likely to be going the same direction as other people. Someone walking in front of you for a block is not fleeting. Passing someone and stopping because your dog is pooping is not fleeting.

Basically if you're walking in the city, you have a mask on. If you're running, and plan to step off the sidewalk to pass, or something like that it's not.

Why are you walking within 6' of the person in front of you? Given them a little space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Phew, I just took my second felony-level run with my mask around my neck, only pulling it on when within 20 feet of people. I thought I might never see my family again, dreading the mask police van running me down and throwing me in jail. As I was running by all the people eating and laughing on the streetery in Bethesda Row, I realized that I could run in there and quickly order a beer, thus escaping Gayles and his mask gestapo... but I’d have to be quick.

Did you see me wave at you? I was surprised how busy it was!

It really was a great evening for a brisk evening run. Granted, I did forget my mask at home, it proved not to be an issue.