Is Notre Dame screwing up?

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Anonymous wrote:It's mostly an issue among off campus students.

That is not accurate. It was an issue of off-campus parties. More than a third of the cases were tied to one off-campus party.

At UNC the majority of cases were in the high rise dorms. No one assumed the problems were from off-campus socializing. The numbers for ND are surprising given how smallish the school is. It's smaller than UNC. My kid attends one of the big state schools in Indiana. The school has a plan but they admit there is a lot they can't control and they can't manage 2x testing for 50k+ students. Kid and I have a bet about the day the announcement is made that they are 100% dl.

How soon do schools start posting covid numbers?

Most schools don’t post Covid numbers. It’s better PR that way.

Mine is at IU so I have been watching Notre Dame closely. While IU is bigger all of my kid's classes are online and he got a single (for more $$) do they have tried to reduce density. Lots of testing when coming onto campus but this doesn't bode well for other schools in the state.

Kids may be in singles but too many are sharing bathrooms and other resources to be safe. Are you aware that your kid isn't allowed to have visitors to his room? Do you think kids will follow those directions? IU doesn't have a solid plan for continuing testing. Does IU plan to communicate the results of their testing? The school is too large to manage this.

Ours said the students aren’t allowed to visit other dorms, but specified that they can visit students in off campus housing. Let the parties begin!

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Online classes do not matter, the students are hanging out together and probably much more seeing they can go anywhere and log in to the class.

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Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Not as much this year as in year's past. One of the ways they were able to have space for all the kids on campus was because so many did study abroad. Most (maybe all) of those programs have been cancelled this year, so that's a huge influx of more students who need a place to stay. Freshmen are required to be in dorms, but they weren't able to guarantee housing for all upperclassmen this year, which is really really unusual.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Even in the '80's, only freshmen were required to live on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Not as much this year as in year's past. One of the ways they were able to have space for all the kids on campus was because so many did study abroad. Most (maybe all) of those programs have been cancelled this year, so that's a huge influx of more students who need a place to stay. Freshmen are required to be in dorms, but they weren't able to guarantee housing for all upperclassmen this year, which is really really unusual.

So it's not a Notre Dame policy [anymore?] for undergrads to live on campus all 4 years? When did that change? I always thought it was:

Freshman - 100% on campus
Sophomore - 100%
Junior - 100%
Senior - 100%

Has it not been that way in many years? I thought that was a charming policy that seemed to make the alum network especially tightknit.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Even in the '80's, only freshmen were required to live on campus.

Thank you, I had no idea. If it's been optional that long, what % of sophomores, juniors, and seniors did still elect to remain on campus? I think it was certainly far more common than at other schools.

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IU is going to follow the same path, as will the other large schools opening in the next few weeks. Their virtual medical clinic will be overwhelmed when the first large wave of students call with symptoms. IU kids have to get themselves to a location to be tested and I don't see specifics about what will happen to students who test positive. I see from the parents page, very few of the parents posting who have sent their kids back know how this is going to be handled.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Notre Dame still 100% (or nearly) on campus housing all 4 years? I believe it used to be required, yes? Unsure if that's changed.

Not as much this year as in year's past. One of the ways they were able to have space for all the kids on campus was because so many did study abroad. Most (maybe all) of those programs have been cancelled this year, so that's a huge influx of more students who need a place to stay. Freshmen are required to be in dorms, but they weren't able to guarantee housing for all upperclassmen this year, which is really really unusual.

So it's not a Notre Dame policy [anymore?] for undergrads to live on campus all 4 years? When did that change? I always thought it was:

Freshman - 100% on campus
Sophomore - 100%
Junior - 100%
Senior - 100%

Has it not been that way in many years? I thought that was a charming policy that seemed to make the alum network especially tightknit.

NP. It may still be the policy in ordinary times, but they had to make changes due to COVID and study abroad being cancelled, as above posts indicate. Not enough space.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. First off, I full support wearing masks. That being said, is it terrible if the kids get mild cases of COVID? This would help us to achieve herd immunity, right? I don't want for the students to put their professors at risk. They can do online learning from their dorm rooms. Dorm workers should be given adequate PPE. If professors and dorm workers can be protected, is there any great harm done?

This is the thinking that causes more issues. sure in a perfect world it makes sense but the workers at the school go home, the ones that work in facilities, dinning halls, support staff. etc.

I wear a mask I am protected, you don't have to. You drink and drive, I don't same thing oh wait... your behavior impacts others. We both don't drink and drive we are both protected, we both wear a mask we are both protected.

Why can't the workers be given proper PPE? I am pro-mask.

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Three years on campus is the current requirement (but lifted for COVID). A new policy implemented last year was that all seniors who moved off campus lost affiliation with residence hall. They received a lot of flak for it; we’ll see what happens in the wake of the virus.

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Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

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Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

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Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

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You can thank the very stable genius for the testing inadequacy in this country.