Is Notre Dame screwing up?

[Anonymous]

Pre Covid, can someone explain the usual % of soph, jun. and seniors who lived on campus? Sorry, I'm confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pre Covid, can someone explain the usual % of soph, jun. and seniors who lived on campus? Sorry, I'm confused.

Last numbers I saw, as of 2018 when a new policy was put into force, the on-campus housing numbers were:

Freshman - 100%
Sophomore - 100%
Junior - 100% (not counting those abroad for overseas study, of course)
Seniors - 30-40%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

And what, exactly, is two weeks going to do to lessen the transmissibility of the virus? And what are they going to do, lock the kids in their rooms? The virus is spreading among kids in social settings.

I think it's dawning on ND officials that the longer they stay fully open this fall, the more likely it is that they'll be running an infirmary rather than a university. And if some student becomes seriously ill or, heaven forbid, dies, then that death is going to be on their hands and on their watch. The president who stood by in-person instruction and refused to accede to the obvious need to get people off campus would have to resign for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pre Covid, can someone explain the usual % of soph, jun. and seniors who lived on campus? Sorry, I'm confused.

simply put 100% will be off campus by Friday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pre Covid, can someone explain the usual % of soph, jun. and seniors who lived on campus? Sorry, I'm confused.

Last numbers I saw, as of 2018 when a new policy was put into force, the on-campus housing numbers were:

Freshman - 100%
Sophomore - 100%
Junior - 100% (not counting those abroad for overseas study, of course)
Seniors - 30-40%

I think there was some exemptions — some athletes, a few special cases.

https://residentiallife.nd.edu/undergraduate/room-information-and-policies/residential-community-enhancements/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Actually the initial cases stemmed from off campus parties...one on the weekend of 8/15 and another this past Wednesday.

[Anonymous]

If it was just a dorm issue employees wouldn’t be getting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

Kids not getting them in classrooms...just parties.

[Anonymous]

120 of the tests reported today were for the football team which is kind of in a bubble. That means the percent positive of tests (non-football) is 26%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

Kids not getting them in classrooms...just parties.

Not all the cases have been traced to parties. And if you've seen the Reddit thread on ND, the testing situation is an utter fiasco. Not everyone who wants a test is getting one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IU is going to follow the same path, as will the other large schools opening in the next few weeks. Their virtual medical clinic will be overwhelmed when the first large wave of students call with symptoms. IU kids have to get themselves to a location to be tested and I don't see specifics about what will happen to students who test positive. I see from the parents page, very few of the parents posting who have sent their kids back know how this is going to be handled.

IU Mom here. Yes my kid knows no visitors and common areas are closed. Also when you enter through gate 11, you must not have yet, you get a lot more information including testing and quarantine (either in dorm or IU facility). I am not sure what you mean by kids have to get to a location to be tested which unless all college kids are carrying around tests or frankly anyone with possible Covid yes you have to get tested which is available on campus. I fully expect him to be home mid October but when I say he was in more danger staying home I mean it. We were both ready to kill each other!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

LOL
It’s 100% a dorm issue. Have you seen how many kids they can cram into one room? They have roommates, they are sharing bathrooms, they are partying and being normal college kids. In the classroom, it’s all controlled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Notre Dame president scheduled 5:00 press conference. Huge lines to get tested today on campus.

You're about to hear the sound of the plug being pulled on in-person instruction at Notre Dame this fall.

I suspect a two week shutdown of in person but not sending kids home. Yet.

Sweetheart, no one is getting covid in a classroom with a mask on, seated six feet away from other students. These outbreaks are 100% a dorm issue. Nothing short of vacating the dorms is going to make a difference at any school.

Sweetheart, students sitting in a poorly ventilated classroom for an hour at a time, walking next to each other to get into and out of classrooms, not always wearing masks correctly, wearing bandanas or neck gaiters, touching their faces, their desks, and doors, are certainly at risk for transmitting and catching coronavirus.
It is not just a dorm issue, it is an issue of having thousands of 20 year olds on a campus for hours at a time with little enforcement of optimal health guidelines.

LOL
It’s 100% a dorm issue. Have you seen how many kids they can cram into one room? They have roommates, they are sharing bathrooms, they are partying and being normal college kids. In the classroom, it’s all controlled.

I'm a professor and it's laughable that you think it's 100% a dorm issue. Yes, dorms are big, big part, but please don't fool yourself into believing that the classrooms are "all controlled." They are not, and students socialize between and before classes. I guarantee you that students are not walking 6 feet apart from one another in hallways, in elevators, in stairwells, etc., on the way into and out of class.