Is Notre Dame screwing up?

[Anonymous]

I'm rooting for ND. They had the means to reopen and do widespread testing. I work at a smaller college that did not open in person. There is a strong likelihood we won't economically recover and could wind up closing. Even if we stay afloat, we will never be the same school our students once chose because the budget cuts have wiped out programs. Our students and parents don't seem to realize that yet.

[Anonymous]

I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

Facts seem disturbingly irrelevant to most people on either side of the discussion these days.

[Anonymous]

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I do not have to button it lol. I can write about whatever I want on any forum on this website. So, once again, all good! He already found out he got a 95 on one of his finals. Coming down the home stretch!! Notre Dame is an awesome place...even during a pandemic. At least he is having a life. Jealous much? If you no like...do not click. LOL

You are stupid with such limited brain capacity that you can only think of how your immediate family can benefit. Just laying it out there.[/quote]


+1. "me. . .me .me . . . what I want . . me . . me"

[Anonymous]

Anyone want to guess, will ND's REA applications be up or down this year? I'll guess up, due to test optional and for being on campus. Anyone disagree?

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Anonymous wrote:Well their numbers the week were better than they were the week before. We'll give them another week but I'm not expecting all the drama everyone lashed out at them about.

I'm not a ND fan but I am so pulling for them to crush this year because everyone is squawking at them. The kids are happy on campus and having classes far better than most colleges. They are not killing off their professors and the neighboring townsfolk as was predicted. They are diagnostic and surveillance testing responsibly and reacting appropriately as needed. By having some semblance of a residential year the school is not hemorrhaging the millions and millions of dollars that other schools are. Honestly - to be they are showing up a lot of other schools who couldn't be bothered to try to make it work and will be crying for funds [/b]next year.

[b]+100 My son is there and he is having a blast...relatively speaking. Being able to experience that game last week is going to be unforgetable. He is working hard, spending time with his good friends in his bubble, and getting ready for exam week and to head home. I couldn't be prouder of him and am grateful he is having some semblance of normal. it is going to be a rough couple of months being stuck at home, but hoping he can get back again in February.

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Stop Notre Dame Mom! Listen to yourself: “My son .. this and that” “Me me me”. Where is the concern for others and responsible behavior? I don’t care how happy your son are is at Notre Dame. How can you be so selfish? This has been awful for the community. First the football team gets it. Then Fr. John gets it at the mask-less White House party. Now this irresponsible surge into the field! Yes cases are up in Indiana. More cases on the football team were announced this past week. Fr. John called the surge onto the field “disappointing” last Friday. And three days ago Coach Kelly said Notre Dane “ wasn’t doing enough” to confront the virus. This is a PR disaster and is not helped by moms bragging how much fun their son is having -without any regard for anyone else - at Notre Dame. Button it.

Why? It is true. He has classes in person (4 out of 5). He is living with his roommates on campus (not sitting at a computer in the basement). He is going to football games!! He got to see ND beat Clemson. He is independent and living college life. Hey, he even can sit by a fire pit right outside his dorm. All good. Some people got sick. We knew that was going to happen. DS hasn't been contact traced or gotten the virus, so he is going to come home next week without having missed a beat during the semester. COVID is not killing students. Nobody at ND has died from COVID. Why don't you "button it" PP.

ND Alum and former South Bend resident here. Glad things have gone well for your son and that he has been able to enjoy some of this weird college semester of Covid. But please get a clue! Notre Dame has been the poster child for hypocrisy this fall. From its decision to reopen solely for football glory/money while pretending to care about its students/the larger community to Fr. Jenkins throwing self control out the window because he got to visit the White House, it's been a disgusting spectacle.

Covid cases from nearby Elkhart, IN, where hospitals are over capacity are already being transferred to St. Joseph Hospital not too far from Notre Dame. Meanwhile, the populations of South Bend, Mishawaka and Granger, as well as nearby Niles, MI are holding their collective breaths that students head for home for break before setting off another Covid explosion. I have two kids in colleges out east in places where cases are much lower than Indiana who have had all online classes. One is a Div 1 athlete who has not been allowed to do his sport since last February. Neither of these universities are Catholic schools that pretend to stand for something. But I'd argue that my kids are getting a better lesson in sacrificing for the common good than any student at ND. The school and its leaders should be ashamed. Most alums I know are.

I’m not affiliated with ND but I’m in South Bend near the university. Students are out and about all over the area without masks, masks under their chins, etc. to be fair, a lot of the general population is doing the same thing. Bars and restaurants are packed on the weekend. The parking lot for the mall was nearly full this afternoon when I drove by.

The hospital situation here is scary. For now they have beds in the county, but they don’t have staff.

Is this all attributable to ND? No. Is some of it? Yes. There’s no way college kids without masks at bars and restaurants and hanging out in groups at CVS without masks is not contributing to signify the community spread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

So let's see -- as of yesterday:

Elkhart County has had 15,550 reported cases with 211 deaths. St. Joseph County (home of Notre Dame) has 15,264 cases and 222 deaths. Way higher numbers in Elkhart? How are you defining "way higher"? Or, maybe the better question is; how are you defining "facts"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

So let's see -- as of yesterday:

Elkhart County has had 15,550 reported cases with 211 deaths. St. Joseph County (home of Notre Dame) has 15,264 cases and 222 deaths. Way higher numbers in Elkhart? How are you defining "way higher"? Or, maybe the better question is; how are you defining "facts"?

Not PP and would not use the term "way", but Elkhart county population is ~30% higher than St. Joseph county. So, similar case counts would mean that they about 30% higher per capita. That is a little worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

So let's see -- as of yesterday:

Elkhart County has had 15,550 reported cases with 211 deaths. St. Joseph County (home of Notre Dame) has 15,264 cases and 222 deaths. Way higher numbers in Elkhart? How are you defining "way higher"? Or, maybe the better question is; how are you defining "facts"?

Not PP and would not use the term "way", but Elkhart county population is ~30% higher than St. Joseph county. So, similar case counts would mean that they about 30% higher per capita. That is a little worse.

Sorry, Poplation smaller- rate higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is doing great. It is working on becoming the first University in the country to reach community immunity. About 25% of the on-campus students have or had covid. And, they are helping out currently by transmitting covid around the State and soon - the country. Thanks Notre Dame. The goal is to see how many people we can infect. Sure, many will suffer and some will die, but what more could you ask for? After all - didn’t the President of the school catch covid by being stupid enough to violate school rules in public?

If you clowns had any common sense you would realize that the whole country should have been doing this. By exploiting the huge gradient in mortality and other bad consequences of COVID, the spread should be encouraged in colleges, schools and other places for young people while only the vulnerable are locked away. Imagine what would happen if all places quickly achieved community immunity with closing down normal businesses and most of the bad consequences of the cure. If COVID is still active on campus, keep the students there and certainly away from vulnerable people. Sweden was right.

Sweden just locked down having concluded that they were wrong and that as a result of their mistaken policy many people died, and many more are crippled with virus caused health issues. So, following Sweden means locking down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I live in South Bend. The spread here is largely not ND which has kept numbers quite low and consistent. Like the rest of the Midwest, Indiana’s numbers are up because of community spread.

Elkhart, the manufacturing county next door where no one at ND lives, has way higher numbers.

Not that it matters, but those are the facts.

So let's see -- as of yesterday:

Elkhart County has had 15,550 reported cases with 211 deaths. St. Joseph County (home of Notre Dame) has 15,264 cases and 222 deaths. Way higher numbers in Elkhart? How are you defining "way higher"? Or, maybe the better question is; how are you defining "facts"?

Not PP and would not use the term "way", but Elkhart county population is ~30% higher than St. Joseph county. So, similar case counts would mean that they about 30% higher per capita. That is a little worse.

SB person here...that person is looking at the wrong data. She is looking at total from the entire pandemic. I am looking at current data of weekly positives and deaths, as well as the fact Elkhart hospitals are at capacity. Despite having 30% fewer people, last week St. Joe had 339 positives and one death. Elkhart County had 379 positives and 5 deaths. Facts.

[Anonymous]

Sorry to be clear Elkhart Co. has 30% fewer people than St. Joe county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is doing great. It is working on becoming the first University in the country to reach community immunity. About 25% of the on-campus students have or had covid. And, they are helping out currently by transmitting covid around the State and soon - the country. Thanks Notre Dame. The goal is to see how many people we can infect. Sure, many will suffer and some will die, but what more could you ask for? After all - didn’t the President of the school catch covid by being stupid enough to violate school rules in public?

If you clowns had any common sense you would realize that the whole country should have been doing this. By exploiting the huge gradient in mortality and other bad consequences of COVID, the spread should be encouraged in colleges, schools and other places for young people while only the vulnerable are locked away. Imagine what would happen if all places quickly achieved community immunity with closing down normal businesses and most of the bad consequences of the cure. If COVID is still active on campus, keep the students there and certainly away from vulnerable people. Sweden was right.

Yes, we should be encouraging young people to acquire an infection that could produce lifelong heart problems. Clowns, indeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is doing great. It is working on becoming the first University in the country to reach community immunity. About 25% of the on-campus students have or had covid. And, they are helping out currently by transmitting covid around the State and soon - the country. Thanks Notre Dame. The goal is to see how many people we can infect. Sure, many will suffer and some will die, but what more could you ask for? After all - didn’t the President of the school catch covid by being stupid enough to violate school rules in public?

If you clowns had any common sense you would realize that the whole country should have been doing this. By exploiting the huge gradient in mortality and other bad consequences of COVID, the spread should be encouraged in colleges, schools and other places for young people while only the vulnerable are locked away. Imagine what would happen if all places quickly achieved community immunity with closing down normal businesses and most of the bad consequences of the cure. If COVID is still active on campus, keep the students there and certainly away from vulnerable people. Sweden was right.

Yes, we should be encouraging young people to acquire an infection that could produce lifelong heart problems. Clowns, indeed.

Talk about fear mongering. All of these "lifelong health problem" comments are very upsetting to the many people who have had - and recovered from covid - and who are reading your comments. Either show some proof or stop creating/adding to the anxiety of people who have already suffered a lot.

Signed - Not affiliated with ND, but, a mom of a DC who had covid

[Anonymous]

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Talk about fear mongering. All of these "lifelong health problem" comments are very upsetting to the many people who have had - and recovered from covid - and who are reading your comments. Either show some proof or stop creating/adding to the anxiety of people who have already suffered a lot.

Signed - Not affiliated with ND, but, a mom of a DC who had covid

Then you should already know about the long term consequences. You would have to live under a rock not to know.