ES Parents, please listen in to one or two zoom classes to make sure your kid isn’t “that kid”

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the best way to deal with these kids/parents is to forbid your kids from being friends with them or doing things with them outside school. Most of these defensive parents are the type who are super offended if someone suggests that little Larlo is a bad influence and won't be allowed to play with the other kids, so you might need to work it from that angle because it's the only thing they seem to understand.

It always surprises me how little insight teachers -- and apparently parents -- have into what makes kids tick. Give these kids some extra responsibility or otherwise utilize the extra zest they have in spades. Why punish a kid? The school's job is to teach them, and reach them. The only happy outcome of punishing is for sadists.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Please!

No, it's not. There just aren't that many gifted teachers out there. We've had some, so I know they exist. Some teachers know how to work magic on kids like this -- some don't give a shit about them.

So every disruptive kid is just craving to be a helper and most teachers can’t see that? Riiiiight.

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OP is the exact reason parents should not volunteer in the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is the exact reason parents should not volunteer in the classroom.

Can’t every parent now hear the zoom classes? Took me two lessons to figure out who “those” kids were.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is the exact reason parents should not volunteer in the classroom.

Apparently sleeping in and shrugging your shoulders at your disruptive kids and letting the teachers deal with it, is the new cool mom that DCUM wants to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the best way to deal with these kids/parents is to forbid your kids from being friends with them or doing things with them outside school. Most of these defensive parents are the type who are super offended if someone suggests that little Larlo is a bad influence and won't be allowed to play with the other kids, so you might need to work it from that angle because it's the only thing they seem to understand.

It always surprises me how little insight teachers -- and apparently parents -- have into what makes kids tick. Give these kids some extra responsibility or otherwise utilize the extra zest they have in spades. Why punish a kid? The school's job is to teach them, and reach them. The only happy outcome of punishing is for sadists.

Some teachers know this. Not many though. Unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure mine is 'that kid.' He's 'that kid' when I'm trying to work with him, too. His being 'that kid' is part of the reason he got his ADHD diagnosis and is on meds. But, I still need to do my job, so I still need the teacher to deal with it.

My kid is also ADHD and I have compassion but it's my job as a parent to help him not be that kid. The teacher can't "deal with it" when they are not even in the same class room. What can the teacher do aside from muting and emailing me, when I'll have to deal with him anyway.

Yah, he's silly. I tell him not to be silly. However, I am not going to sit next to him through every call (which is probably what would be required to keep him properly still and seated and focused) because I have a job that is essential, and by the way, involves getting food & services out for people who need them more than ever right now. I am perfectly fine with the teacher muting him or whatever else she needs to do to minimize distractions. In fact, this system may even be helpful since presumably he's less able to distract his neighbors and less distracted by his neighbors. She can tell me he's a problem and I will reiterate to him that he shouldn't be silly (which of course he already knows), but the answer that OP advocates that I sit next to him isn't reasonable and isn't happening. Sorry.

You suck as a parent

No here—I disagree. What the heck else is she supposed to do? I got fired so I’m home with my kids and I can sit next to my distractible son and remind him to stop talking up so much, but he still forgets. It’s hard for me and the op is trying to work an essential job! Congrats on having such an easy kid. I have one of those too, is it all because of me? No. It’s her personality. Bravo to those trying to work and help their kids to school at the same time. It is not easy.

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My kid is one of those kids. He's in 2nd grade and so excited to see friends that he logged on super early and waited 40 minutes for the call to start. He's mainly chatty and making silly faces or holding things up to the camera. My 5th grader has classmates logging on and off while they get snacks, playing video games while the class is meeting, etc. so there are different levels of distraction for different ages, I guess. I did apologize to my 2nd grader's teacher and she said she is able to turn off video and mute him and to not worry about it at all. I stay in hearing distance but not in view of the camera.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the best way to deal with these kids/parents is to forbid your kids from being friends with them or doing things with them outside school. Most of these defensive parents are the type who are super offended if someone suggests that little Larlo is a bad influence and won't be allowed to play with the other kids, so you might need to work it from that angle because it's the only thing they seem to understand.

It always surprises me how little insight teachers -- and apparently parents -- have into what makes kids tick. Give these kids some extra responsibility or otherwise utilize the extra zest they have in spades. Why punish a kid? The school's job is to teach them, and reach them. The only happy outcome of punishing is for sadists.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Please!

No, it's not. There just aren't that many gifted teachers out there. We've had some, so I know they exist. Some teachers know how to work magic on kids like this -- some don't give a shit about them.

So every disruptive kid is just craving to be a helper and most teachers can’t see that? Riiiiight.

No. Some teachers have a few tricks up their sleeves, and know how to reach a variety of personalities. Some don't. I've seen both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure mine is 'that kid.' He's 'that kid' when I'm trying to work with him, too. His being 'that kid' is part of the reason he got his ADHD diagnosis and is on meds. But, I still need to do my job, so I still need the teacher to deal with it.

My kid is also ADHD and I have compassion but it's my job as a parent to help him not be that kid. The teacher can't "deal with it" when they are not even in the same class room. What can the teacher do aside from muting and emailing me, when I'll have to deal with him anyway.

Yah, he's silly. I tell him not to be silly. However, I am not going to sit next to him through every call (which is probably what would be required to keep him properly still and seated and focused) because I have a job that is essential, and by the way, involves getting food & services out for people who need them more than ever right now. I am perfectly fine with the teacher muting him or whatever else she needs to do to minimize distractions. In fact, this system may even be helpful since presumably he's less able to distract his neighbors and less distracted by his neighbors. She can tell me he's a problem and I will reiterate to him that he shouldn't be silly (which of course he already knows), but the answer that OP advocates that I sit next to him isn't reasonable and isn't happening. Sorry.

You suck as a parent

No here—I disagree. What the heck else is she supposed to do? I got fired so I’m home with my kids and I can sit next to my distractible son and remind him to stop talking up so much, but he still forgets. It’s hard for me and the op is trying to work an essential job! Congrats on having such an easy kid. I have one of those too, is it all because of me? No. It’s her personality. Bravo to those trying to work and help their kids to school at the same time. It is not easy.

+1 Some people don't seem to realize that there are all kinds of people in the world. If you have multiple children, then you likely have multiple different TYPES of children, as well.

[Anonymous]

you know, in Zoom, the host can control the mute function. The teacher can mute the whole class and only unmute someone when needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is the exact reason parents should not volunteer in the classroom.

Apparently sleeping in and shrugging your shoulders at your disruptive kids and letting the teachers deal with it, is the new cool mom that DCUM wants to be.

While being a bitch is the same old, same old DCUM cool mom that we all wish would go away already. (When do your kids graduate, PP?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the best way to deal with these kids/parents is to forbid your kids from being friends with them or doing things with them outside school. Most of these defensive parents are the type who are super offended if someone suggests that little Larlo is a bad influence and won't be allowed to play with the other kids, so you might need to work it from that angle because it's the only thing they seem to understand.

It always surprises me how little insight teachers -- and apparently parents -- have into what makes kids tick. Give these kids some extra responsibility or otherwise utilize the extra zest they have in spades. Why punish a kid? The school's job is to teach them, and reach them. The only happy outcome of punishing is for sadists.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Please!

No, it's not. There just aren't that many gifted teachers out there. We've had some, so I know they exist. Some teachers know how to work magic on kids like this -- some don't give a shit about them.

So every disruptive kid is just craving to be a helper and most teachers can’t see that? Riiiiight.

No. Some teachers have a few tricks up their sleeves, and know how to reach a variety of personalities. Some don't. I've seen both.

this.

[Anonymous]

Some of have to work during the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the best way to deal with these kids/parents is to forbid your kids from being friends with them or doing things with them outside school. Most of these defensive parents are the type who are super offended if someone suggests that little Larlo is a bad influence and won't be allowed to play with the other kids, so you might need to work it from that angle because it's the only thing they seem to understand.

It always surprises me how little insight teachers -- and apparently parents -- have into what makes kids tick. Give these kids some extra responsibility or otherwise utilize the extra zest they have in spades. Why punish a kid? The school's job is to teach them, and reach them. The only happy outcome of punishing is for sadists.

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Please!

No, it's not. There just aren't that many gifted teachers out there. We've had some, so I know they exist. Some teachers know how to work magic on kids like this -- some don't give a shit about them.

So every disruptive kid is just craving to be a helper and most teachers can’t see that? Riiiiight.

No. Some teachers have a few tricks up their sleeves, and know how to reach a variety of personalities. Some don't. I've seen both.

Of course. Blame the teachers for misbehaving kids. Not the admin and not the parents.

Sounds like how MCPS does things.

Everything gets blamed on teachers - disruptive kids, race issues, the achievement gap, attendance, Covid, bad weather, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure mine is 'that kid.' He's 'that kid' when I'm trying to work with him, too. His being 'that kid' is part of the reason he got his ADHD diagnosis and is on meds. But, I still need to do my job, so I still need the teacher to deal with it.

My kid is also ADHD and I have compassion but it's my job as a parent to help him not be that kid. The teacher can't "deal with it" when they are not even in the same class room. What can the teacher do aside from muting and emailing me, when I'll have to deal with him anyway.

Yah, he's silly. I tell him not to be silly. However, I am not going to sit next to him through every call (which is probably what would be required to keep him properly still and seated and focused) because I have a job that is essential, and by the way, involves getting food & services out for people who need them more than ever right now. I am perfectly fine with the teacher muting him or whatever else she needs to do to minimize distractions. In fact, this system may even be helpful since presumably he's less able to distract his neighbors and less distracted by his neighbors. She can tell me he's a problem and I will reiterate to him that he shouldn't be silly (which of course he already knows), but the answer that OP advocates that I sit next to him isn't reasonable and isn't happening. Sorry.

You suck as a parent

No here—I disagree. What the heck else is she supposed to do? I got fired so I’m home with my kids and I can sit next to my distractible son and remind him to stop talking up so much, but he still forgets. It’s hard for me and the op is trying to work an essential job! Congrats on having such an easy kid. I have one of those too, is it all because of me? No. It’s her personality. Bravo to those trying to work and help their kids to school at the same time. It is not easy.

+1 Some people don't seem to realize that there are all kinds of people in the world. If you have multiple children, then you likely have multiple different TYPES of children, as well.

DP, but this is SO true. I have three, and one of them is happy go lucky, super sweet, and just generally awesome. He is handling this mess like it’s nothing. One of mine is up and down, as is her nature, and the third is three and kind of an a-hole. You know what I’m not smug about? My parenting. I do a decent job, maybe better than most, in part because I’m not patting myself on the back over my easy-going middle kid. That’s who he is. We reinforce it, but it’s *nothing* like the work we have to do with our oldest, by contrast.

All of which is to say: lose the anger towards other parents, and save it for where it could make a difference. This issue is not it.