Barnard student stabbed to death

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

It's both things. We're never going to eradicate crime from cities, so if you want to live in a city, you have to take some steps to protect yourself. And not over-focus on the risk of crime. I mean, there have been four incidents in the past few months about kids in Bethesda being killed or seriously injured by cars, and nobody is on here fixating about how terrible cars are, and how our children should all go to college on Mackinac Island to stay safe from cars.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say the fact that they arrested a CHILD for doing this just makes everything all the more tragic. Obviously I know a 13 year-old can be hardened and vicious, but to be brought up to believe that robbing and then striking out with a knife when it doesn’t go according to plan is even an option is horrific to me. Think of the 13 year olds you know, in your children’s schools. What would they have to go through to become that person? And to be the girl who was stabbed...ack it’s just so upsetting all around.

Before I get flamed I am not excusing the actions of the attacker. It’s just sad that a child was even in a situation that desperate in the first place.

I agree with you. It is a tragedy on both sides. We might both get flamed for this. But for a 13 year old to rob and stab someone means that that child was failed along the line.

Both sides, huh? You’re an imbecile.

You can say that from your high horse, but imagine the life that 13 year old kid has had up til this point. My guess is it has been pretty awful. Of course I feel tremendous sympathy for the family of the young woman who was murdered, but I also feel sympathy for a 13 year old who we can probably safely assume, came from a violent and unsafe environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

It's both things. We're never going to eradicate crime from cities, so if you want to live in a city, you have to take some steps to protect yourself. And not over-focus on the risk of crime. I mean, there have been four incidents in the past few months about kids in Bethesda being killed or seriously injured by cars, and nobody is on here fixating about how terrible cars are, and how our children should all go to college on Mackinac Island to stay safe from cars.

I think you are kidding yourself that you can protect yourself at all times everywhere. Unless you don't live your house. Stop blaming the victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

It's both things. We're never going to eradicate crime from cities, so if you want to live in a city, you have to take some steps to protect yourself. And not over-focus on the risk of crime. I mean, there have been four incidents in the past few months about kids in Bethesda being killed or seriously injured by cars, and nobody is on here fixating about how terrible cars are, and how our children should all go to college on Mackinac Island to stay safe from cars.

I think you are kidding yourself that you can protect yourself at all times everywhere. Unless you don't live your house. Stop blaming the victim.

Leave your house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

The parents need to sue the school and the city for hundreds of millions dollars. It won't bring back their precious child but the city and the school need to be reminded one of their core mission is to keep students safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

It's both things. We're never going to eradicate crime from cities, so if you want to live in a city, you have to take some steps to protect yourself. And not over-focus on the risk of crime. I mean, there have been four incidents in the past few months about kids in Bethesda being killed or seriously injured by cars, and nobody is on here fixating about how terrible cars are, and how our children should all go to college on Mackinac Island to stay safe from cars.

I think you are kidding yourself that you can protect yourself at all times everywhere. Unless you don't live your house. Stop blaming the victim.

Nobody said you can protect yourself at all times, but there are basic things you can do. Not sure why this is even an argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

The parents need to sue the school and the city for hundreds of millions dollars. It won't bring back their precious child but the city and the school need to be reminded one of their core mission is to keep students safe.

good luck w/that. this took place off campus. not familiar with the law that allows you to sue cities and states for being a crime victim?

[Anonymous]

Is this likely -- a missed subway stop led her thru a park she probably knew was dicey?

"Possible she took the 2 train up from downtown Manhattan and forgot to transfer at 96th. Then tried to walk from 116th and Lenox. Happens frequently. Perps robbed/stabbed her when she was crossing the park, which you have to do from that side."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

Not sure why people are making this into some kind of wokeness thing. Guess what: BLACK PEOPLE KNOW NOT TO WALK ALONE IN MORNINGSIDE PARK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in the 90s the school specifically told us over and over again at orientation to stay away from Morningside Park. I wonder if the school has eased upon that. Truthfully when I heard I thought "sounds like something that would happen in DC, not New York"

Wouldn't be PC to say that anymore.

+1. It’s also racist for the girl to run the other way when she sees 4 loitering youth in a park known for stick ups and robberies.

Np I would rather be called racist and alive than pc and dead. It seems like the majority on here are blaming the victim! We should be asking why did these men kill her rather than why did she walk there?

Not sure why people are making this into some kind of wokeness thing. Guess what: BLACK PEOPLE KNOW NOT TO WALK ALONE IN MORNINGSIDE PARK.

We should put the blame on the person or people who killed her, not the victim.

[Anonymous]

As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:looked up the park online. as a tourist, it would not occur to me to avoid it. it looks so pretty.

+1. Very pretty. It's really depressing to read locals know to avoid it FOR DECADES?! This isn't timbuktu, it's across the street from two of the most prestigious colleges in the world.

Come on, don't get hysterical. Yes, crime is disturbing. But it's also very easy to avoid. And no, just because it's a "prestigious university" does not mean its immune from crime. NYC is actually very safe, much safer than it was in the past. This is a horrible tragedy, but NYC is not a war zone.

With prestige comes one of the biggest university endowments in the world and alums whose net worths are in the very top 0.01% of society. Not to mention NYC is one of the richest cities, with one of the biggest police forces. There is simply no excuse for that park not being 100% safe--let alone apparently being a violent crime hot-spot for DECADES?! Avoid at all costs--a park literally next to the college--you realize how CRAZY that sounds to accept and become numb to such a thing?

[Anonymous]

The student newspaper seems to dance around she collapsed at a vacant security station at the top of the stairs and was there for nearly 30 minutes because the security guard was "making rounds"!!! So yes, I think her parents will and should sue because it sounds like she possibly could have survived had she been found quickly. ://////