Barnard student stabbed to death

[Anonymous]

"she spent half an hour alone in the cold bleeding out right next to a [vacant] Columbia public safety guard post, after climbing those stairs with multiple stab wounds, and you want to talk about how it’s “outrageous” to blame Columbia...?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The student newspaper seems to dance around she collapsed at a vacant security station at the top of the stairs and was there for nearly 30 minutes because the security guard was "making rounds"!!! So yes, I think her parents will and should sue because it sounds like she possibly could have survived had she been found quickly. ://////

This account has been debunked. Security guard was there and called 911.

[Anonymous]

The monster will go to juvi until 18 and turn loose. Hope he doesn’t kill another when out

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:looked up the park online. as a tourist, it would not occur to me to avoid it. it looks so pretty.

+1. Very pretty. It's really depressing to read locals know to avoid it FOR DECADES?! This isn't timbuktu, it's across the street from two of the most prestigious colleges in the world.

Come on, don't get hysterical. Yes, crime is disturbing. But it's also very easy to avoid. And no, just because it's a "prestigious university" does not mean its immune from crime. NYC is actually very safe, much safer than it was in the past. This is a horrible tragedy, but NYC is not a war zone.

With prestige comes one of the biggest university endowments in the world and alums whose net worths are in the very top 0.01% of society. Not to mention NYC is one of the richest cities, with one of the biggest police forces. There is simply no excuse for that park not being 100% safe--let alone apparently being a violent crime hot-spot for DECADES?! Avoid at all costs--a park literally next to the college--you realize how CRAZY that sounds to accept and become numb to such a thing?

I think you don't understand how the world works. Just because you have money does not mean you get to live in a gated compound. If that's what you want, you can move to Rio and take helicopters from place to place, like they do there. I'm not numb at all to this stuff and I think we need better policing (in DC especially) and to get guns off the streets ... but to act like you should be insulated from crime because you're rich is just dumb and ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:The student newspaper seems to dance around she collapsed at a vacant security station at the top of the stairs and was there for nearly 30 minutes because the security guard was "making rounds"!!! So yes, I think her parents will and should sue because it sounds like she possibly could have survived had she been found quickly. ://////

This account has been debunked. Security guard was there and called 911.

Has this been debunked? No campus crime alerts for muggings in that area the very day of her stabbing?

"WHY DIDNT PUBLIC SAFETY INFORM THE STUDY BODY THAT THERE WAS A FORCEFUL MUGGING IN RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND 114TH AROUND 9:30 AM. WHY DIDNT THEY WARN STUDENTS TO BE CAREFULL. SECURITY? THEY DIDNT EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A MUGGING BY CAMPUS IN THE MORNING. KEEP YOUR DAMN STUDENTS SAFE. LIVES ARE ON THE LINE. SOMETHING MAY NOT HAPPEN ONE DAY BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN IT WONT HAPPEN IN ANOTHER. DONT ABANDON YOUR POST. STUDENTS – READ LOCAL NEWS AND EYEWITNESS NEWS CAUSE PUBLIC SAFETY PROBABLY WONT KNOW ABOUT IT. STAY SAFE. TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES. STAY VIGILANT ANS PROACTIVE. THIS IS PREVENTABLE."

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Anonymous wrote:looked up the park online. as a tourist, it would not occur to me to avoid it. it looks so pretty.

+1. Very pretty. It's really depressing to read locals know to avoid it FOR DECADES?! This isn't timbuktu, it's across the street from two of the most prestigious colleges in the world.

Come on, don't get hysterical. Yes, crime is disturbing. But it's also very easy to avoid. And no, just because it's a "prestigious university" does not mean its immune from crime. NYC is actually very safe, much safer than it was in the past. This is a horrible tragedy, but NYC is not a war zone.

With prestige comes one of the biggest university endowments in the world and alums whose net worths are in the very top 0.01% of society. Not to mention NYC is one of the richest cities, with one of the biggest police forces. There is simply no excuse for that park not being 100% safe--let alone apparently being a violent crime hot-spot for DECADES?! Avoid at all costs--a park literally next to the college--you realize how CRAZY that sounds to accept and become numb to such a thing?

I think you don't understand how the world works. Just because you have money does not mean you get to live in a gated compound. If that's what you want, you can move to Rio and take helicopters from place to place, like they do there. I'm not numb at all to this stuff and I think we need better policing (in DC especially) and to get guns off the streets ... but to act like you should be insulated from crime because you're rich is just dumb and ignorant.

(And yes, you also sound hysterical. Thousands and thousands of people have attended Columbia for decades, and just known to watch themselves a bit. It's really ok.)

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Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

Irrelevant. Civilized people don’t rob and murder.

[Anonymous]

This is interesting:

"Barnard/Columbia has a mandatory orientation program known as 'Under One Roof'. There, the one thing drilled into us more than anything was that calling Harlem and/or the parks “dangerous” was super racist-we were told to think they were super safe. Gentrification was also racist, with privileged taking from lower means. They would chastise anyone as a racist if they voiced any concern in regards to safety."

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Anonymous wrote:This is interesting:

"Barnard/Columbia has a mandatory orientation program known as 'Under One Roof'. There, the one thing drilled into us more than anything was that calling Harlem and/or the parks “dangerous” was super racist-we were told to think they were super safe. Gentrification was also racist, with privileged taking from lower means. They would chastise anyone as a racist if they voiced any concern in regards to safety."

If you have common sense you ignore this, and go.with your own observations.
Best gift you can give your college age children is critical thinking.

[Anonymous]

"We get emails all the time about events perceived as racist (a black student was once asked to show their I.D. before walking into a building by a black security guard, and there was like 10 "alerts"/notices about it and how it was racist/wrong etc.).

The University neglects to report on the safety of areas a block away from campus for fear of seeming racist, while students who came from safe small towns and don't know any better lap up their propaganda and don't think twice about using the park as a shortcut at night. Also, by at night I mean she was killed around 5:30 p.m. while classes were in session a mere 20 feet away from where she took her last breath."

Heartbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just say the fact that they arrested a CHILD for doing this just makes everything all the more tragic. Obviously I know a 13 year-old can be hardened and vicious, but to be brought up to believe that robbing and then striking out with a knife when it doesn’t go according to plan is even an option is horrific to me. Think of the 13 year olds you know, in your children’s schools. What would they have to go through to become that person? And to be the girl who was stabbed...ack it’s just so upsetting all around.

Before I get flamed I am not excusing the actions of the attacker. It’s just sad that a child was even in a situation that desperate in the first place.

I agree with you. It is a tragedy on both sides. We might both get flamed for this. But for a 13 year old to rob and stab someone means that that child was failed along the line.

Both sides, huh? You’re an imbecile.

You can say that from your high horse, but imagine the life that 13 year old kid has had up til this point. My guess is it has been pretty awful. Of course I feel tremendous sympathy for the family of the young woman who was murdered, but I also feel sympathy for a 13 year old who we can probably safely assume, came from a violent and unsafe environment.

You’re making a lot of assumptions. How about the kid is just evil and amoral.....have you considered that possibility or are you too busy making up excuses?

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Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

You’re awful.

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Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

You’re awful.

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Daughter is at Penn and kids have been getting mugged for parkas and iPhones (and bookbags with laptops). I get the alert emails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

You’re awful.

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Daughter is at Penn and kids have been getting mugged for parkas and iPhones (and bookbags with laptops). I get the alert emails.

First of all, adding the jackets worth thousands of dollars is a gratuitous jab that implies, in the wake of this tragedy, that college kids are robbed because they’re materialistic and rich. Secondly, it’s clearly victim-blaming. It’s no different than saying the sexual assault rate was lower when women wore longer shorter skirts or stayed home more. The problem is with the robbing and murdering.

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Anonymous wrote:As for why college kids are robbed--I bet it's become more common lately than in the 90s and 00s. Even debit card only (ZERO cash) college kid has at the very least $200 Earpods, $1000 iPhone, and $1500 MacBook. Nobody I knew in the 80s and 90s in college walked around with $2500 cash, that's for sure.

I almost forgot, they also wear $1000 Canada Goose or $2000 Moncler parkas in addition to the electronics.

You’re awful.

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Daughter is at Penn and kids have been getting mugged for parkas and iPhones (and bookbags with laptops). I get the alert emails.

First of all, adding the jackets worth thousands of dollars is a gratuitous jab that implies, in the wake of this tragedy, that college kids are robbed because they’re materialistic and rich. Secondly, it’s clearly victim-blaming. It’s no different than saying the sexual assault rate was lower when women wore longer shorter skirts or stayed home more. The problem is with the robbing and murdering.

+1. That awful PP is either an utter imbecile or insanely tone deaf.