Montgomery County is what brought us Donald Trump

[Anonymous]

I think Moco defenders have no idea about how truly bad the county's finances are and where they are headed. All of this rose colored outlook will evaporate once austerity measures need to be put in place and taxes need to be significantly increased. Has anyone actually looked at the demographics report for the county? The baby boomer population is expected to explode while the number of workers on their prime earning years is expected to decrease. That means the tax base is eroding because of the giant wave of retirees. The county also has a TON of pension liabilities coming up as those baby boomers retire too. The demographics report also showed that population growth in Moco is driven laregly by 'international' arrivers, which we all know is the SJW codespeak for illegal immigrants (the #1 country from where arrivers are coming from is El Salvador). The county will continue to go down the tubes as the tax base continues to erode, costs and spending continue to skyrocket, illegal immigrants strain all resources, and taxes get increased. Moco, and basically Maryland in general, is headed the way of Illinois - another blue state run into the ground by liberal Democrats who have turned that state's finances into a ghastly mess and who've imposed a crushing level of taxes to try to stop the bleeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spot-on, OP.

And you can be assured that you're correct because of all the personal attacks level at you, starting with the VERY FIRST reply in the thread.

That's how you know you're right. When they disregard the issue and immediately attack you personally.

Final vindication will be when the thread is simply deleted. Although by pointing that out, I've just made it less likely to happen, since the mods hate doing what was predicted.

You are weird.

Its not weird. Its more that the small brain mentality of his kind find "victory" in getting people upset, shutting down conversations, and/or having said conversations shut down.

Their way of winning is based on triggers and reactions they get from people, rather than constructive dialogue.

[Anonymous]

There tends to be a bigger focus on legislating through the social justice angle, rather than improving conditions in the county through jobs, education, and economic policy.

The county is ignoring the latter and focused heavily in many cases on social justice.

Some of you are focusing and blaming your grievances on minorities and non-whites and telling on yourselves. The problem is not that we have a diverse county. This should actually be embraced. The country officials need to do a better job of balancing creating an environment welcoming to everyone with real policies that bring jobs, improve education, improve our economy, and improve housing.

We are not going to solve this by creating the most social justice county in the country. There needs to be substance on top of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Moco defenders have no idea about how truly bad the county's finances are and where they are headed. All of this rose colored outlook will evaporate once austerity measures need to be put in place and taxes need to be significantly increased. Has anyone actually looked at the demographics report for the county? The baby boomer population is expected to explode while the number of workers on their prime earning years is expected to decrease. That means the tax base is eroding because of the giant wave of retirees. The county also has a TON of pension liabilities coming up as those baby boomers retire too. The demographics report also showed that population growth in Moco is driven laregly by 'international' arrivers, which we all know is the SJW codespeak for illegal immigrants (the #1 country from where arrivers are coming from is El Salvador). The county will continue to go down the tubes as the tax base continues to erode, costs and spending continue to skyrocket, illegal immigrants strain all resources, and taxes get increased. Moco, and basically Maryland in general, is headed the way of Illinois - another blue state run into the ground by liberal Democrats who have turned that state's finances into a ghastly mess and who've imposed a crushing level of taxes to try to stop the bleeding.

I've lived here most of my life. There are ups and downs, just like everywhere. I like that it's liberal, though all that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There tends to be a bigger focus on legislating through the social justice angle, rather than improving conditions in the county through jobs, education, and economic policy.

The county is ignoring the latter and focused heavily in many cases on social justice.

Some of you are focusing and blaming your grievances on minorities and non-whites and telling on yourselves. The problem is not that we have a diverse county. This should actually be embraced. The country officials need to do a better job of balancing creating an environment welcoming to everyone with real policies that bring jobs, improve education, improve our economy, and improve housing.

We are not going to solve this by creating the most social justice county in the country. There needs to be substance on top of this.

I agree with you 100%.

If you really care about improving the lives of our diverse population, do things that would actually tangibly improve their lives. I'm not AGAINST the social justice legislation per se - I mean sure, let's not discriminate based on hairstyles - but let's also not kid ourselves that legislating away discrimination is going to solve all of our problems.

Also - I'm no Republican, I don't think tax cuts across the board are what stimulates business growth. Don't shoot me, but I agree with what a lot of Marc Elrich SAYS he's going to do, like talk to business owners and find out what's hindering them and benchmarking business practices with Fairfax. He's talked a good game about improving the permitting process, which would be fantastic. But this means nothing until talk turns to action.

I don't think you really have to sacrifice liberal values to become more business friendly. I don't think we have to allow wanton pesticide use, keep mass-producing plastic straws and styrofoam and have a race to the bottom paying low wages. I do think getting rid of the burdensome red tape would do wonders for business - and yes, this might upset some of your middle-manager government worker friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Moco defenders have no idea about how truly bad the county's finances are and where they are headed. All of this rose colored outlook will evaporate once austerity measures need to be put in place and taxes need to be significantly increased. Has anyone actually looked at the demographics report for the county? The baby boomer population is expected to explode while the number of workers on their prime earning years is expected to decrease. That means the tax base is eroding because of the giant wave of retirees. The county also has a TON of pension liabilities coming up as those baby boomers retire too. The demographics report also showed that population growth in Moco is driven laregly by 'international' arrivers, which we all know is the SJW codespeak for illegal immigrants (the #1 country from where arrivers are coming from is El Salvador). The county will continue to go down the tubes as the tax base continues to erode, costs and spending continue to skyrocket, illegal immigrants strain all resources, and taxes get increased. Moco, and basically Maryland in general, is headed the way of Illinois - another blue state run into the ground by liberal Democrats who have turned that state's finances into a ghastly mess and who've imposed a crushing level of taxes to try to stop the bleeding.

This is spot on.

We already see that this model is not sustainable for the schools. It will also not be sustainable for the County as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spot-on, OP.

And you can be assured that you're correct because of all the personal attacks level at you, starting with the VERY FIRST reply in the thread.

That's how you know you're right. When they disregard the issue and immediately attack you personally.

Final vindication will be when the thread is simply deleted. Although by pointing that out, I've just made it less likely to happen, since the mods hate doing what was predicted.

You are weird.

Its not weird. Its more that the small brain mentality of his kind find "victory" in getting people upset, shutting down conversations, and/or having said conversations shut down.

Their way of winning is based on triggers and reactions they get from people, rather than constructive dialogue.

I noticed you don't agree with the OP, but also didn't refute anything the OP said.

How's that constructive dialogue working for ya?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Moco defenders have no idea about how truly bad the county's finances are and where they are headed. All of this rose colored outlook will evaporate once austerity measures need to be put in place and taxes need to be significantly increased. Has anyone actually looked at the demographics report for the county? The baby boomer population is expected to explode while the number of workers on their prime earning years is expected to decrease. That means the tax base is eroding because of the giant wave of retirees. The county also has a TON of pension liabilities coming up as those baby boomers retire too. The demographics report also showed that population growth in Moco is driven laregly by 'international' arrivers, which we all know is the SJW codespeak for illegal immigrants (the #1 country from where arrivers are coming from is El Salvador). The county will continue to go down the tubes as the tax base continues to erode, costs and spending continue to skyrocket, illegal immigrants strain all resources, and taxes get increased. Moco, and basically Maryland in general, is headed the way of Illinois - another blue state run into the ground by liberal Democrats who have turned that state's finances into a ghastly mess and who've imposed a crushing level of taxes to try to stop the bleeding.

This is spot on.

We already see that this model is not sustainable for the schools. It will also not be sustainable for the County as a whole.

But we'll have to destroy the whole country finding out, just to be sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with you 100%.

If you really care about improving the lives of our diverse population, do things that would actually tangibly improve their lives. I'm not AGAINST the social justice legislation per se - I mean sure, let's not discriminate based on hairstyles - but let's also not kid ourselves that legislating away discrimination is going to solve all of our problems.

Also - I'm no Republican, I don't think tax cuts across the board are what stimulates business growth. Don't shoot me, but I agree with what a lot of Marc Elrich SAYS he's going to do, like talk to business owners and find out what's hindering them and benchmarking business practices with Fairfax. He's talked a good game about improving the permitting process, which would be fantastic. But this means nothing until talk turns to action.

I don't think you really have to sacrifice liberal values to become more business friendly. I don't think we have to allow wanton pesticide use, keep mass-producing plastic straws and styrofoam and have a race to the bottom paying low wages. I do think getting rid of the burdensome red tape would do wonders for business - and yes, this might upset some of your middle-manager government worker friends.

It was funny a few months ago when Elrich and some others were promoting some new initiative in Rockville to help women and minorities start businesses -- basically to help with all the papework, permitting, and licensing.

I have a better idea -- how about reducing all the bureaucracy so you don't have to set up a group just to help people wade through the bureaucracy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with you 100%.

If you really care about improving the lives of our diverse population, do things that would actually tangibly improve their lives. I'm not AGAINST the social justice legislation per se - I mean sure, let's not discriminate based on hairstyles - but let's also not kid ourselves that legislating away discrimination is going to solve all of our problems.

Also - I'm no Republican, I don't think tax cuts across the board are what stimulates business growth. Don't shoot me, but I agree with what a lot of Marc Elrich SAYS he's going to do, like talk to business owners and find out what's hindering them and benchmarking business practices with Fairfax. He's talked a good game about improving the permitting process, which would be fantastic. But this means nothing until talk turns to action.

I don't think you really have to sacrifice liberal values to become more business friendly. I don't think we have to allow wanton pesticide use, keep mass-producing plastic straws and styrofoam and have a race to the bottom paying low wages. I do think getting rid of the burdensome red tape would do wonders for business - and yes, this might upset some of your middle-manager government worker friends.

It was funny a few months ago when Elrich and some others were promoting some new initiative in Rockville to help women and minorities start businesses -- basically to help with all the papework, permitting, and licensing.

I have a better idea -- how about reducing all the bureaucracy so you don't have to set up a group just to help people wade through the bureaucracy?

Right?

Not the OP, but they want to tout how they want to bring in women and minorities because it falls in line with the SJW agenda.

This is my issue with MCPS. So much time and money and energy spent on Black and Brown Forums and Latino nights, whereas our 4th grade teachers don't even have the rest of their curriculum for this year. Our classes are overcrowded and schools are understaffed. Spend that money focusing on implementing a strong curriculum that will help ALL kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with you 100%.

If you really care about improving the lives of our diverse population, do things that would actually tangibly improve their lives. I'm not AGAINST the social justice legislation per se - I mean sure, let's not discriminate based on hairstyles - but let's also not kid ourselves that legislating away discrimination is going to solve all of our problems.

Also - I'm no Republican, I don't think tax cuts across the board are what stimulates business growth. Don't shoot me, but I agree with what a lot of Marc Elrich SAYS he's going to do, like talk to business owners and find out what's hindering them and benchmarking business practices with Fairfax. He's talked a good game about improving the permitting process, which would be fantastic. But this means nothing until talk turns to action.

I don't think you really have to sacrifice liberal values to become more business friendly. I don't think we have to allow wanton pesticide use, keep mass-producing plastic straws and styrofoam and have a race to the bottom paying low wages. I do think getting rid of the burdensome red tape would do wonders for business - and yes, this might upset some of your middle-manager government worker friends.

It was funny a few months ago when Elrich and some others were promoting some new initiative in Rockville to help women and minorities start businesses -- basically to help with all the papework, permitting, and licensing.

I have a better idea -- how about reducing all the bureaucracy so you don't have to set up a group just to help people wade through the bureaucracy?

But Elrich's friends need jobs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spot-on, OP.

And you can be assured that you're correct because of all the personal attacks level at you, starting with the VERY FIRST reply in the thread.

That's how you know you're right. When they disregard the issue and immediately attack you personally.

Final vindication will be when the thread is simply deleted. Although by pointing that out, I've just made it less likely to happen, since the mods hate doing what was predicted.

You are weird.

Its not weird. Its more that the small brain mentality of his kind find "victory" in getting people upset, shutting down conversations, and/or having said conversations shut down.

Their way of winning is based on triggers and reactions they get from people, rather than constructive dialogue.

I noticed you don't agree with the OP, but also didn't refute anything the OP said.

How's that constructive dialogue working for ya?

you only proving my point with your snarky and absurd response. the person said nothing worthy of responding to. it was an entire post about what could of, should, of would of.

and i actually provided separate constructive input that got several responses, so go find someone else to play with.

[Anonymous]

I'd argue that Trump is one of the causes for the further left progressives getting a hold on MOCO. Trump is so despicable and the Republicans enabling are not much better in their inaction that many centrist leaning Democrats can not stomach voting for anyone with R next to their name. Hogan is incredibly lucky that Ben Jealous was not only a bad candidate but a completely incompetent campaigner. If you look at the voting break down most of MOCO went for Jealous even though in other times these voters would have never considered voting for someone so bad.

Trump has opened the door for progressives to wiggle in and grab a disproportionate number of seats in comparison with the voters that actually agree with their positions. While previously R stronghold areas are moving to centrist Democrats, traditional Democratic strongholds are moving to progressives.

[Anonymous]

Whether or not Montgomery County has politics that OP believes in, Trump was not elected "because" of Montgomery County.

Trump was elected because white people in this country have become increasingly radicalized by a white supremacist ideology that the GOP has low-key embraced for years. Trump didn't create the modern GOP, but he rode that wave of Caucasian resentment to the White House.

When it comes to MoCo, PP is absolutely right. I can disagree with some things that Erlich and the council are doing, but if my choice is "farther left that I really care for" or "the party of the Confederate Flag and babies in cages," them I'm voting for the Democrats every single time.

[Anonymous]

We like it here. Frankly it was a much nicer place when it was almost all liberals. The conservatives are mean and it shows in the community, in the schools, in traffic and here.