Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does it matter if Trump is perceived as spiteful?

The illegals are here and the cities have designated themselves as places that welcome them.

There’s nothing wrong with sanctuary cities accepting people except when Trump sends them?

Ok. Keep them in government facilities or send them back or whatever.

Obviously nothing Trump does is acceptable.

Because our country is a Constitutional democracy, governed by LAWS. Not by the whims of an angry old man.

Ok - so according to law, where should we send them?

These are the sanctuary stats: CA, CO, CT, DC (not a state), FL, GA, IA, IL, KS, LA, MA, MD, MN, NE, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, PA, RI, TX, VA, VT, WA, WI.

Citation? Your list is wrong. VA is not a sanctuary state.

Virginia

Arlington County
Chesterfield County
Fairfax County

These are sanctuary cities in VA.

https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Wrong. Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.



“Alternative facts” again, Kellyanne?

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These people and the Center for Immigration Studies say it is.

You should take their lies up with them.

It’s a “low immigration” think tank. Biased.

And wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

If he plans on releasing these folk to sanctuary cities, then sure, because they will be well-taken care of. Are you feeling that they will not be welcomed by the population of those cities?

[Anonymous]

And CIS is listed as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

Great source, MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Trump turns illegals away. RACIST!

Trump detains illegals. Racist!

Trump wants to send illegals to welcoming cities. Tacist!

Schwartz said that the Arlington County Police Department will not act to enforce federal immigration law, and that the county doesn’t participate in a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) program that gives local and state governments the power to deputize police for immigration enforcement.

https://www.arlnow.com/2017/03/01/arlington-county-on-immigration-welcoming-but-not-a-sanctuary-jurisdiction/

[Anonymous]

It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.

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Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

If he plans on releasing these folk to sanctuary cities, then sure, because they will be well-taken care of. Are you feeling that they will not be welcomed by the population of those cities?

The question is motivation: What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

If that were his motivation don’t you think he would have tried to keep families together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And CIS is listed as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

Great source, MAGA.

Something strange is going on at this civil rights institution. It must be investigated.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/something-strange-is-going-on-at-this-civil-rights-institution-it-must-be-investigated/2019/04/05/a08f227c-5712-11e9-814f-e2f46684196e_story.html

There’s something strange afoot at the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the nation’s richest civil and human rights charities. In March, the center abruptly fired legendary co-founder Morris Dees. Dees’s biography was quickly scrubbed from the center’s website, and the SPLC announced this week that Karen Baynes-Dunning would serve as interim president and CEO, giving the civil rights organization its first black female leader.

In confirming Dees’s departure, then-President Richard Cohen emphasized the center’s values of “truth, justice, equity, and inclusion,” and said vaguely, “When one of our own fails to meet those standards, no matter his or her role in the organization, we take it seriously and must take appropriate action.” Subsequent news reports pointed to allegations of racial discrimination and sexual harassment inside an organization that had raised hundreds of millions of dollars from donors to fight just that type of injustice.

SPLC has lost all credibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated March 18, 2019
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

There’s a map and info. How is it punishing anyone?

Let the cities help. They care and have resources. Don’t talk the talk and then refuse to walk the walk.

Find a better source. This list is wrong.

Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.

LOL. The list is correct. And they plan to socioeconomically integrate Arlington schools. Say goodbye to the liberal rich enclave of North Arlington - your kids will be redistricted to blend with the masses and your property values will tank. Such is the nature of leftism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s absurd how certain people are pretending this proposal died because sanctuary cities refused to take people in, rather than because ICE doesn’t have the money to transport them that far and there are huge liability risks if there’s an accident along the way. Trump and Miller made a stupid and dangerous suggestion that ICE rejected as unworkable. That’s all this is about.

But the spin is better if they focus on the sanctuary cities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

Motivation should always matter, especially in this case. The blind eye you are willing to turn speakes volumes.

I'm not a hypocrite.

And while I won't go into details, I've given more than enough of my blood, sweat and tears helping underprivileged kids - citizens and undocumented. Unless you live it, you really don't know a damn thing about the topic.

If you're claiming sanctuary cities were "designed" to help undocumented immigrants, then you don't know a damn thing about the topic. Or, more likely, you're simply lying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

He knows which communities are best able to not be consumed by an onslaught of people who view laws as optional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And CIS is listed as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/center-immigration-studies

Great source, MAGA.

Something strange is going on at this civil rights institution. It must be investigated.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/opinions/something-strange-is-going-on-at-this-civil-rights-institution-it-must-be-investigated/2019/04/05/a08f227c-5712-11e9-814f-e2f46684196e_story.html

There’s something strange afoot at the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of the nation’s richest civil and human rights charities. In March, the center abruptly fired legendary co-founder Morris Dees. Dees’s biography was quickly scrubbed from the center’s website, and the SPLC announced this week that Karen Baynes-Dunning would serve as interim president and CEO, giving the civil rights organization its first black female leader.

In confirming Dees’s departure, then-President Richard Cohen emphasized the center’s values of “truth, justice, equity, and inclusion,” and said vaguely, “When one of our own fails to meet those standards, no matter his or her role in the organization, we take it seriously and must take appropriate action.” Subsequent news reports pointed to allegations of racial discrimination and sexual harassment inside an organization that had raised hundreds of millions of dollars from donors to fight just that type of injustice.

SPLC has lost all credibility.

Nice tangent but what about CIS? It’s still anti-immigration. Biased source. And flat-out wrong.

Find a better source if you want us to take your comments seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated March 18, 2019
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

There’s a map and info. How is it punishing anyone?

Let the cities help. They care and have resources. Don’t talk the talk and then refuse to walk the walk.

Find a better source. This list is wrong.

Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.

eh
What's the difference?
https://www.arlnow.com/2017/03/01/arlington-county-on-immigration-welcoming-but-not-a-sanctuary-jurisdiction/

Though Arlington County welcomes people of all legal statuses, it can’t protect them from federal immigration enforcement.

That’s the gist of what Arlington County Manager Mark Schwartz said during a County Board meeting this week. Schwartz announced the launch of a new website aimed at answering many of the questions residents have had in the wake of recent uncertainty over immigration enforcement across the U.S.

It's easier to receive assistance in "welcoming" areas. Do you think teachers in challenging schools - those with extremely liberal views - are turning kids in?

Which public schools anywhere report kids to ICE?

If there's a kid (not here legally) with severe emotional problems who's disrupting the school setting, information will come out much sooner. Sometimes the authorities are notified in cases of abuse. Then it's out of the school's hands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

He knows which communities are best able to not be consumed by an onslaught of people who view laws as optional.

But the motivation was....

[Anonymous]

I am noting one hell of a lot of moonwalking back campaign rhetoric here, folks.