Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

The cities were not designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated March 18, 2019
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

There’s a map and info. How is it punishing anyone?

Let the cities help. They care and have resources. Don’t talk the talk and then refuse to walk the walk.

Find a better source. This list is wrong.

Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does it matter if Trump is perceived as spiteful?

The illegals are here and the cities have designated themselves as places that welcome them.

There’s nothing wrong with sanctuary cities accepting people except when Trump sends them?

Ok. Keep them in government facilities or send them back or whatever.

Obviously nothing Trump does is acceptable.

Because our country is a Constitutional democracy, governed by LAWS. Not by the whims of an angry old man.

Ok - so according to law, where should we send them?

These are the sanctuary stats: CA, CO, CT, DC (not a state), FL, GA, IA, IL, KS, LA, MA, MD, MN, NE, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, PA, RI, TX, VA, VT, WA, WI.

Citation? Your list is wrong. VA is not a sanctuary state.

Virginia

Arlington County
Chesterfield County
Fairfax County

These are sanctuary cities in VA.

https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

It's absurd to declare yourself a welcoming space for illegal immigrants, and then stomp your feet when the administration takes you up on your offer. You people are truly clueless.

They aren't "declaring" themselves as a welcoming space for illegal immigrants. Stop lying.

Why don't you ask teachers in challenging schools in MCPS how many kids were afraid to come to school after Trump was elected. lots

why? b/c Mo Co is very welcoming

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

+1

Libs have entire cities crafted for illegals and then get outraged Trump days take them.

Hypocrites.

"Libs" didn't "craft" cities for illegals.

Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated March 18, 2019
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

There’s a map and info. How is it punishing anyone?

Let the cities help. They care and have resources. Don’t talk the talk and then refuse to walk the walk.

Find a better source. This list is wrong.

Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.

eh
What's the difference?
https://www.arlnow.com/2017/03/01/arlington-county-on-immigration-welcoming-but-not-a-sanctuary-jurisdiction/

Though Arlington County welcomes people of all legal statuses, it can’t protect them from federal immigration enforcement.

That’s the gist of what Arlington County Manager Mark Schwartz said during a County Board meeting this week. Schwartz announced the launch of a new website aimed at answering many of the questions residents have had in the wake of recent uncertainty over immigration enforcement across the U.S.

It's easier to receive assistance in "welcoming" areas. Do you think teachers in challenging schools - those with extremely liberal views - are turning kids in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does it matter if Trump is perceived as spiteful?

The illegals are here and the cities have designated themselves as places that welcome them.

There’s nothing wrong with sanctuary cities accepting people except when Trump sends them?

Ok. Keep them in government facilities or send them back or whatever.

Obviously nothing Trump does is acceptable.

Because our country is a Constitutional democracy, governed by LAWS. Not by the whims of an angry old man.

Ok - so according to law, where should we send them?

These are the sanctuary stats: CA, CO, CT, DC (not a state), FL, GA, IA, IL, KS, LA, MA, MD, MN, NE, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, PA, RI, TX, VA, VT, WA, WI.

Citation? Your list is wrong. VA is not a sanctuary state.

Virginia

Arlington County
Chesterfield County
Fairfax County

These are sanctuary cities in VA.

https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Wrong. Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.



“Alternative facts” again, Kellyanne?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

Motivation should always matter, especially in this case. The blind eye you are willing to turn speakes volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

+1

Libs have entire cities crafted for illegals and then get outraged Trump days take them.

Hypocrites.

"Libs" didn't "craft" cities for illegals.

Stop lying.

Accusing people of lying isn’t a refutation.

You add zero facts or links or citations.

Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated March 18, 2019
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.

A detainer is the primary tool used by ICE to gain custody of criminal aliens for deportation. It is a notice to another law enforcement agency that ICE intends to assume custody of an alien and includes information on the alien's previous criminal history, immigration violations, and potential threat to public safety or security.

There’s a map and info. How is it punishing anyone?

Let the cities help. They care and have resources. Don’t talk the talk and then refuse to walk the walk.

Find a better source. This list is wrong.

Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.

eh
What's the difference?
https://www.arlnow.com/2017/03/01/arlington-county-on-immigration-welcoming-but-not-a-sanctuary-jurisdiction/

Though Arlington County welcomes people of all legal statuses, it can’t protect them from federal immigration enforcement.

That’s the gist of what Arlington County Manager Mark Schwartz said during a County Board meeting this week. Schwartz announced the launch of a new website aimed at answering many of the questions residents have had in the wake of recent uncertainty over immigration enforcement across the U.S.

It's easier to receive assistance in "welcoming" areas. Do you think teachers in challenging schools - those with extremely liberal views - are turning kids in?

Which public schools anywhere report kids to ICE?

[Anonymous]

I've love to see these good people placed in sanctuaries! GREAT IDEA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

Crickets.

Go back and read the OP. It’s pretty apparent. People are fodder for political games in the eyes of your dear leader no matter how you try to spin it.

But his motivations shouldn't matter in this case.

The cities were designed to be safe spaces for illegal immigrants. Despite his ulterior motives, why should people now BALK at the decision to welcome more and more folks into these cities?

Basically, the liberals responding are doing the same thing - using illegal immigrants as pawns, with an additional layer of hypocrisy added into the mix.

Liberals: We want them. We have sanctuary cities for them.
Conservatives: We don't want them, but we have them. So we'll send more your way.
Liberals: No! You are cruel by using these newcomers as pawns in a dangerous game!

Again, motivation aside, if you want them inside the border, where should they go?

+1

Libs have entire cities crafted for illegals and then get outraged Trump days take them.

Hypocrites.

"Libs" didn't "craft" cities for illegals.

Stop lying.

+1

So ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does it matter if Trump is perceived as spiteful?

The illegals are here and the cities have designated themselves as places that welcome them.

There’s nothing wrong with sanctuary cities accepting people except when Trump sends them?

Ok. Keep them in government facilities or send them back or whatever.

Obviously nothing Trump does is acceptable.

Because our country is a Constitutional democracy, governed by LAWS. Not by the whims of an angry old man.

Ok - so according to law, where should we send them?

These are the sanctuary stats: CA, CO, CT, DC (not a state), FL, GA, IA, IL, KS, LA, MA, MD, MN, NE, NJ, NM, NV, NY, OR, PA, RI, TX, VA, VT, WA, WI.

Citation? Your list is wrong. VA is not a sanctuary state.

Virginia

Arlington County
Chesterfield County
Fairfax County

These are sanctuary cities in VA.

https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States

Wrong. Arlington, VA is not a sanctuary city.



“Alternative facts” again, Kellyanne?

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Scott McConnell, Former Board Member
Elizabeth Paddock, Former Board Member; Founding Board Member
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Eleanor Weinstock, Former Board Member
Dr. Ieda Siqueira Wiarda, Former Board Member
Anita Winsor-Edwards, Former Board Member
Mary Wohlford, Former Board Member

These people and the Center for Immigration Studies say it is.

You should take their lies up with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

What do you think Trump’s motivations are here? The well-being of the detainees?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Because the administration’s motivation was to retaliate by doing so. They wanted to do it to teach a lesson.

Which lesson?

So sending them to a welcoming environment with a strong network of social services is teaching a lesson to whom?

I'm confused.

I’m not. Trump could cure cancer and the libs would find some reason to bitch about it. “He’s making money off his cure! His reasons weren’t pure! What an evil evil man!”

The outcome is irrelevant, as long as they have something to bitch about the process.

If Trump was trying his best, putting all of his effort into trying to find a cure for cancer, I'd be happy. He wouldn't even have to find a cure, just try. And nothing is stopping him from doing that. But instead, he bitches about immigration and cuts regulations, increasing the risk of cancer.

Said the ignorant person without knowledge GOP led The 21st Century Cures Act and who forgot about "Right To Try" legislation. Do some research before you spit out marbles again.