Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry you're being forced to work without pay OP. It's unAmerican. Take heart that the border protection workers are suing the Trump administration after being forced to work without pay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/border-protection-officers-union-sues-trump-administration-over-shutdown-after-missed-paycheck/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And what about feds who ARE working right now as “essential” employees just not getting paid? What handy dandy solution do you have for them??

+1 I have many friends who are essential but still shelling out for daycare and household expenses because they're still working full-time. There are NO dandy solutions for them.

Oh man, that really sucks. Meanwhile the donald and melanie are sipping from their gold champagne flutes.

Yup. While the secret service agents assigned to protect them with their lives are worried about how they’re going to pay the rent.

The Secret Service isn't getting paid?

Nope! And neither are all the other essential employees (and there's a lot of them): TSA, Coast Guard, FEMA, Air Traffic Controllers, USDA inspectors, NOAA/weather service, and most federal law-enforcement officers. I work for the latter in a support role and am not only getting zero pay, but am also no longer authorized overtime (mind you, I'm still working way over 40 hours a week, but will never get paid the OT for it).

Had stayed in government till now for the stability + benefits, so much for that. Seriously considering jumping ship now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry you're being forced to work without pay OP. It's unAmerican. Take heart that the border protection workers are suing the Trump administration after being forced to work without pay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/border-protection-officers-union-sues-trump-administration-over-shutdown-after-missed-paycheck/

Will this move through the courts fast enough that OP could avoid making her withdrawal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.

Someone upthread quoted $300 for plasma. Regardless of the exact amount, I don't think it is stupid for people to earn what money they can if the shutdown is causing them a financial hardship. Is it better to sit on DCUM and bitch about your situation? How does that help?

If someone is able to make a couple of hundred dollars here or there from odd jobs of one sort of another, that's better than sitting on your butt and complaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.

Someone upthread quoted $300 for plasma. Regardless of the exact amount, I don't think it is stupid for people to earn what money they can if the shutdown is causing them a financial hardship. Is it better to sit on DCUM and bitch about your situation? How does that help?

If someone is able to make a couple of hundred dollars here or there from odd jobs of one sort of another, that's better than sitting on your butt and complaining.

You're not responding to the OP, who is WORKING WITHOUT PAY during the shutdown and trying to pay off $20k. And no, 300$ is not typical for plasma, more like 20-50$.
https://wallethacks.com/how-to-donate-plasma/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry you're being forced to work without pay OP. It's unAmerican. Take heart that the border protection workers are suing the Trump administration after being forced to work without pay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/border-protection-officers-union-sues-trump-administration-over-shutdown-after-missed-paycheck/

Will this move through the courts fast enough that OP could avoid making her withdrawal?

Almost certainly not. A private sector employer could never get away with simply not paying workers and the penalties for doing so can be significant depending on the state. But these rules don't apply to federal workers and it is highly uncertain whether a judge could order payments to be made for which Congress has not provided funding. That gets into serious separation of power issues. Now if there was ever an attempt to ultimately not pay Fed workers for time worked (as opposed to just delaying there paycheck) you might have a better case, but again that would take lots of time to wind its way through the court.

The lawsuit is nothing more than an attempt to apply some pressure and a PR stunt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.

Someone upthread quoted $300 for plasma. Regardless of the exact amount, I don't think it is stupid for people to earn what money they can if the shutdown is causing them a financial hardship. Is it better to sit on DCUM and bitch about your situation? How does that help?

If someone is able to make a couple of hundred dollars here or there from odd jobs of one sort of another, that's better than sitting on your butt and complaining.

You're not responding to the OP, who is WORKING WITHOUT PAY during the shutdown and trying to pay off $20k. And no, 300$ is not typical for plasma, more like 20-50$.
https://wallethacks.com/how-to-donate-plasma/

Wait, are you saying that a discussion on DCUM that has gone on for 6 pages has deviated slightly from the very specific fact patter in the OP? Color me shocked.

If someone is working without pay, their ability to do other time intensive work -- such as a driving an uber would be limited. But there are some things that are less time intensive and, even someone working full-time, could pick up a shift in the evenings or the weekend if things are that tight. This may be hard for some government workers to understand, but there is no actual law that forbids working more than 40 hours per week.

I'm not remotely saying that this situation doesn't suck and that people don't have a right to be pissed -- I am not psyched about missing my paycheck Friday. But I disagree that -- if finances are tight enough that the delayed paycheck is causing problems -- someone should forgo work opportunities just because they wouldn't be able to make as much as they do as a Fed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. The shutdown is bad timing for us too. My job tends to slow down in December/January and I've already missed two paychecks. Missing DH's fed paycheck is going to be tough. Missing two of DH's fed paychecks means calling the mortgage lender and begging.

So, your emergency fund doesn't even cover one month of expenses? I'm sorry. That is a tough position to be in.

And not so bright for someone with a white collar job.

Baffles me that people aren't getting PT jobs. At the very least if I did not have an emergency fund and had racked up 10s of thousands in debt, I'd be on rover, care, uber...whatever to make the ends meet. I'd actually be doing that anyways if I lived paycheck to paycheck.

Guys, this is not the time to lecture OP about what he/she should have done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry you're being forced to work without pay OP. It's unAmerican. Take heart that the border protection workers are suing the Trump administration after being forced to work without pay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/09/border-protection-officers-union-sues-trump-administration-over-shutdown-after-missed-paycheck/

Will this move through the courts fast enough that OP could avoid making her withdrawal?

Almost certainly not. A private sector employer could never get away with simply not paying workers and the penalties for doing so can be significant depending on the state. But these rules don't apply to federal workers and it is highly uncertain whether a judge could order payments to be made for which Congress has not provided funding. That gets into serious separation of power issues. Now if there was ever an attempt to ultimately not pay Fed workers for time worked (as opposed to just delaying there paycheck) you might have a better case, but again that would take lots of time to wind its way through the court.

The lawsuit is nothing more than an attempt to apply some pressure and a PR stunt.

No, there was a similar lawsuit in 2013 and the employees won. They still haven’t collected damages but
The govt is still working on calculations.

“During a 16-day shutdown in 2013, a Washington-based law firm sued the government over the funding for President Barack Obama’s health-care law. Attorneys argued that failure to pay federal workers on their regularly scheduled payday violated the Fair Labor Standards Act.

A court agreed, ruling that the FLSA requires on-time payment of any minimum or overtime wages earned by employees falling within its coverage. It ordered the government to pay double the amount owed them. About 25,000 employees are still waiting to receive those damages.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.

there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.

It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.

People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.

That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.

Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?

I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.

Related to the bake sale, I believe the PP's advice was "let them eat cake."

[Anonymous]

I should start a Seeking Arrangements type web site for Fed workers. Maybe an app or something for 99 cents.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html