Why aren't MoCo Dems rallying around Jealous for Governor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jealous has practically pulled within the margin of error statewide against hogan.

Really? Today’s Post said he is behind by double digits.

And this poll says that the margin has widened to 20%. It seems very unlikely that Jealous has any chance. In the polling regions that should be his strongholds (PG County, Montgomery County and Baltimore City) the most liberal bastions in the state, he is struggling. He has virtually no chance in the moderate and conservative regions.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/410628-larry-hogan-holds-20-point-lead-over-dem-challenger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jealous has practically pulled within the margin of error statewide against hogan.

Really? Today’s Post said he is behind by double digits.

And this poll says that the margin has widened to 20%. It seems very unlikely that Jealous has any chance. In the polling regions that should be his strongholds (PG County, Montgomery County and Baltimore City) the most liberal bastions in the state, he is struggling. He has virtually no chance in the moderate and conservative regions.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/410628-larry-hogan-holds-20-point-lead-over-dem-challenger

The Baltimore Sun released a Gonzales poll that shows Hogan and Jealous virtually tied in Montgomery County. Tied! And in Baltimore, it's 50-40. If Hogan gets 40% of the vote in Baltimore then the election is pointless. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-md-gonzales-poll-governor-ag-20181009-story.html

Here's a quote from the article:

Washington Post poll: Republican Gov. Larry Hogan leads Democratic challenger Ben Jealous by 20 points. About 64 percent of those surveyed said they think Maryland is moving in the right direction, while 20 percent said the state is off track.The poll found that Hogan leads among Republicans (91 percent to 6 percent), unaffiliated voters (52 percent to 25 percent), men (58 percent to 33 percent), women (49 percent to 38 percent) and white voters (65 percent to 26 percent). Jealous leads among Democrats (55 percent to 35 percent) and black voters (70 percent to 21 percent).

Geographically, Hogan leads in 20 of the state’s 24 jurisdictions — with his support strongest in the rural parts of the state. Hogan led the swing jurisdictions of Baltimore County and Howard County by 37 points and 21 points, respectively. Jealous leads in Prince George’s County (64 percent to 23 percent), Baltimore City (50 percent to 40 percent) and Charles County (44 percent to 39 percent). The two men were tied in traditionally liberal Montgomery County.

A Democrat should normally be carrying Baltimore City in a staggering landslide and dominating in Montgomery County. Those are very bad polls for a Democrat in either jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jealous has practically pulled within the margin of error statewide against hogan.

Really? Today’s Post said he is behind by double digits.

And this poll says that the margin has widened to 20%. It seems very unlikely that Jealous has any chance. In the polling regions that should be his strongholds (PG County, Montgomery County and Baltimore City) the most liberal bastions in the state, he is struggling. He has virtually no chance in the moderate and conservative regions.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news-campaigns/410628-larry-hogan-holds-20-point-lead-over-dem-challenger

The Baltimore Sun released a Gonzales poll that shows Hogan and Jealous virtually tied in Montgomery County. Tied! And in Baltimore, it's 50-40. If Hogan gets 40% of the vote in Baltimore then the election is pointless. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-md-gonzales-poll-governor-ag-20181009-story.html

Here's a quote from the article:

Washington Post poll: Republican Gov. Larry Hogan leads Democratic challenger Ben Jealous by 20 points. About 64 percent of those surveyed said they think Maryland is moving in the right direction, while 20 percent said the state is off track.The poll found that Hogan leads among Republicans (91 percent to 6 percent), unaffiliated voters (52 percent to 25 percent), men (58 percent to 33 percent), women (49 percent to 38 percent) and white voters (65 percent to 26 percent). Jealous leads among Democrats (55 percent to 35 percent) and black voters (70 percent to 21 percent).

Geographically, Hogan leads in 20 of the state’s 24 jurisdictions — with his support strongest in the rural parts of the state. Hogan led the swing jurisdictions of Baltimore County and Howard County by 37 points and 21 points, respectively. Jealous leads in Prince George’s County (64 percent to 23 percent), Baltimore City (50 percent to 40 percent) and Charles County (44 percent to 39 percent). The two men were tied in traditionally liberal Montgomery County.

A Democrat should normally be carrying Baltimore City in a staggering landslide and dominating in Montgomery County. Those are very bad polls for a Democrat in either jurisdiction.

Oh its over. The only question now is if Hogan has election coat tails for guys like Al Redmer and some of the state senate races...

[Anonymous]

I will vote all Democrats. I am torn for governor except I do not like Hogan or Jealous.

I do not have a progress with a republican governor if everyone else is a democrat. It has worked well for the state. Hate Hogan for his record on education

[Anonymous]

Voting all Dems because I am seeing how the country is being raped by Republicans. There needs to be balance in the country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a hardcore democrat, was in the Obama administration, and I’m voting for Hogan. I just can’t get behind Jealous

I’m mostly the same (still a little bit undecided). If it had been Baker or Madelano, I would have voted for either of those for sure. Both have more governing experience. In general, electorates are really quite moderate, but primaries push everyone to extremes. So in a liberal state, a moderate Republican gets through and a liberal Democrat. In a conservative state, a hard right candidate ends up competing against a moderate Democrat.

It would really just be best if we had a top two primary system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a hardcore democrat, was in the Obama administration, and I’m voting for Hogan. I just can’t get behind Jealous

I’m mostly the same (still a little bit undecided). If it had been Baker or Madelano, I would have voted for either of those for sure. Both have more governing experience. In general, electorates are really quite moderate, but primaries push everyone to extremes. So in a liberal state, a moderate Republican gets through and a liberal Democrat. In a conservative state, a hard right candidate ends up competing against a moderate Democrat.

It would really just be best if we had a top two primary system.

I think we need rank choice voting. In primaries at least.

I say that as someone who voted for Elrich (for executive). He may not have prevailed in a rank choice system, but I would WAY rather have David Blair than Floreen (who is condescending and loathsome) or for God's sake Ficker (who is certifiable).
If we end up with Ficker I can guarantee you there will be some strong push for rank choice voting, or jungle primaries, or something else, anything other than this.

[Anonymous]

Cause he's trying to take all our hard-earned money and give it to the poor. Like all of our money. Why would we want this heavy taxing for services that will not benefit us and we cannot access?

[Anonymous]

Moco Dems aren’t real Dems. They are republicans that like the gays and abortion.

Jealous would rightly engage in redistribution which hypocritical moco “dems” abhor.

Shame on moco Dems

Neoliberal scum of the highest order

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moco Dems aren’t real Dems. They are republicans that like the gays and abortion.

Jealous would rightly engage in redistribution which hypocritical moco “dems” abhor.

Shame on moco Dems

Neoliberal scum of the highest order

So you are a socialist who supports redistribution of wealth? Most Americans and most Marylanders aren’t on board with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Montgomery County taking a rightward turn, or is it just the demographics of this forum?

MoCo elected Jamie Raskin, and Marc Elrich won the most votes out of the last three Council races, and Anthony Brown won MoCo pretty handily in 2014, and Trump won less than 20% of the vote.

And yet from perusing this particular forum, I get a sense that people are more fiscally moderate/conservative while socially liberal. A lot of Hogan/Floreen voters it seems.

FWIW, I have no dog in this fight, I live in Chevy Chase DC.
I just wonder out of curiosity if something in particular made this rightward turn, or if it is just this DCUM demographic.

It’s dcum and moco white demographics. I’ve said here for years that if this was a UK site, people that post on here would by far vote Tory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moco Dems aren’t real Dems. They are republicans that like the gays and abortion.

Jealous would rightly engage in redistribution which hypocritical moco “dems” abhor.

Shame on moco Dems

Neoliberal scum of the highest order

So you are a socialist who supports redistribution of wealth? Most Americans and most Marylanders aren’t on board with that.

Yes I’m a social democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Moco Dems aren’t real Dems. They are republicans that like the gays and abortion.

Jealous would rightly engage in redistribution which hypocritical moco “dems” abhor.

Shame on moco Dems

Neoliberal scum of the highest order

So you are a socialist who supports redistribution of wealth? Most Americans and most Marylanders aren’t on board with that.

Yes I’m a social democrat.

A social democrat doesn’t typically favor redistribution of wealth. Or at least that’s what Bernie’s people claimed. Confusing.

[Anonymous]

I honestly don’t understand jealous. I guess enough people are not rallying around him here in Maryland that he has to go out to California for his final week campaigning to find support and money.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-hogan-jealous-weekend-20181017-story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I honestly don’t understand jealous. I guess enough people are not rallying around him here in Maryland that he has to go out to California for his final week campaigning to find support and money.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-hogan-jealous-weekend-20181017-story.html

He is broke and literally needs the CA cash just to run his campaign to the finish line.

Possibly the worst candidate and campaign in MD history.