Mary Kay Letourneau considers herself the victim

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Anonymous wrote:No one should be giving these women air or print time. She is a sexual predator. Full stop.

This.

No, not really. At least not in the same way that men are.

First, women are nurturing. Second, the young man was obviously sexually attracted to her. There is a distinct, tangible difference between this kind of relationship and one with a adult man and young woman.

Sorry, it's different, and no one is able to convince me otherwise. Your arguments are all fundamentally flawed.

Nurturing women do not rape children. Never, ever is that o.k.

#boywillbeboys

and this is why we have the assholes in congress who don't believe stories of sexual assault

[Anonymous]

My uncle says that he only wishes such teachers existed in his youth (his best friend since age 5 was during the conversation and wholeheartedly supported my uncle). He's a college professor, so presumably educated. This is the same guy, who did not allow his daughters to date until they were 18. What was I suppose to say? I mentioned that they made me uncomfortable and left the room but that was it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My uncle says that he only wishes such teachers existed in his youth (his best friend since age 5 was during the conversation and wholeheartedly supported my uncle). He's a college professor, so presumably educated. This is the same guy, who did not allow his daughters to date until they were 18. What was I suppose to say? I mentioned that they made me uncomfortable and left the room but that was it.

He's an azz and he also was never molested by a pedophile when he was a kid so he is clueless to boot. Had that happened to him, he, too, would have been a father at 13 and a HS drop out who was getting into trouble....oh, and he wouldn't have impregnated his abuser with, yet, a second child was she was out on parole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My uncle says that he only wishes such teachers existed in his youth (his best friend since age 5 was during the conversation and wholeheartedly supported my uncle). He's a college professor, so presumably educated. This is the same guy, who did not allow his daughters to date until they were 18. What was I suppose to say? I mentioned that they made me uncomfortable and left the room but that was it.

I would have told him he was supporting rape. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one should be giving these women air or print time. She is a sexual predator. Full stop.

This.

No, not really. At least not in the same way that men are.

First, women are nurturing. Second, the young man was obviously sexually attracted to her. There is a distinct, tangible difference between this kind of relationship and one with a adult man and young woman.

Sorry, it's different, and no one is able to convince me otherwise. Your arguments are all fundamentally flawed.

Nurturing women do not rape children. Never, ever is that o.k.

#boywillbeboys

and this is why we have the assholes in congress who don't believe stories of sexual assault

There are plenty of crappy women who think this sort of thing is always the guy's fault too - doesn't matter if the woman is 34 screwing around with a tween boy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My uncle says that he only wishes such teachers existed in his youth (his best friend since age 5 was during the conversation and wholeheartedly supported my uncle). He's a college professor, so presumably educated. This is the same guy, who did not allow his daughters to date until they were 18. What was I suppose to say? I mentioned that they made me uncomfortable and left the room but that was it.

I would have told him he was supporting rape. Full stop.

Yes

The willingness of the teenage victim is irrelevant (or in MKL's case the child, not teenager). Underage children cannot consent to sexual activity with an adult. End of story. It does not matter if the teen girl looks like a woman, or the teen boy is aroused. No consent equals rape. I cannot believe this is a six page discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:My uncle says that he only wishes such teachers existed in his youth (his best friend since age 5 was during the conversation and wholeheartedly supported my uncle). He's a college professor, so presumably educated. This is the same guy, who did not allow his daughters to date until they were 18. What was I suppose to say? I mentioned that they made me uncomfortable and left the room but that was it.

I would have told him he was supporting rape. Full stop.

Yes

The willingness of the teenage victim is irrelevant (or in MKL's case the child, not teenager). Underage children cannot consent to sexual activity with an adult. End of story. It does not matter if the teen girl looks like a woman, or the teen boy is aroused. No consent equals rape. I cannot believe this is a six page discussion.

Exactly. And it is never o.k. for a teacher to use their position of authority to gain access to a kid and groom them for sex. The power imbalance here was unreal and that is what rape is about - power.

[Anonymous]

Asia Argento...bleh

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be the victim from the strictly legal perspective, but she was definitely victimized.

She is a pedophile predator wrapped in the package of a feminine woman. You see a girl so you must think that this was somehow not her fault?

Are you able to convince yourself that her male victim is now victimizing her? Serious question.

I think she's victimized by the process, by the tabloid media, and yes, even to some extent by her "victim", yes.

The young man was only a victim in the strictest legal sense of the word. He was a minor. He certainly didn't act like a victim, he was a willing partner in the relationship. The only thing that made him a "victim" was the law.

Would a man in the same circumstances be a victim? No. He'd be a sexual predator. Because men and women are different. Period. That's reality.

So I can come over and have sex with your middle schlooler is what you’re saying?

No, that would be different, because PP's middle schooler is white.

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be the victim from the strictly legal perspective, but she was definitely victimized.

She is a pedophile predator wrapped in the package of a feminine woman. You see a girl so you must think that this was somehow not her fault?

Are you able to convince yourself that her male victim is now victimizing her? Serious question.

I think she's victimized by the process, by the tabloid media, and yes, even to some extent by her "victim", yes.

The young man was only a victim in the strictest legal sense of the word. He was a minor. He certainly didn't act like a victim, he was a willing partner in the relationship. The only thing that made him a "victim" was the law.

Would a man in the same circumstances be a victim? No. He'd be a sexual predator. Because men and women are different. Period. That's reality.

So I can come over and have sex with your middle schlooler is what you’re saying?

No, that would be different, because PP's middle schooler is white.

No, this isn't about the kid's skin color. PP thinks that when a 34 year old woman has sex with a 12 year old boy she is a cougar and the boy is lucky to get a piece of that. PP believes that the women who have sex with 12 year old boys are doing so out of their innate desire to "nurture" the boy. When 34 year old men have sex with 12 year old children that is rape. PP has a messed up, twisted view of women and sex.

[Anonymous]

I pretty much agree with that.

Boys and girls aren't the same. They don't look at sex the same. When I was 13, I would've railed the brains out of an attractive 34 year old woman if she let me.

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I hope he finds the strength to walk away from her, get a restraining order against her and never talk to her again.

When he was 21, he asked the court to remove the permanent restraining order. He’s a grown man now, and can make his own decisions. I don’t think their relationship is healthy, but they’re adults and can decide for themselves.

True. No one can forbid him to see her. But hopefully with some maturity under his belt along with the support of people who continue to remind that what happened to him was wrong and what she did to him was not o.k. he will find the strength to break away from the powerful hold that she has on him.

Remember, this woman has known him since he was in 2nd grade. She knows exactly what makes him tick and where his vulnerabilities are. He grew up believing that he needed her and was nothing without her approval. He is only now maybe starting to learn how to say no to her. Maybe.

She is a real sicko for sure.

The relationship was sick for sure, but you sure are presuming a lot.

[Anonymous]

Why does everyone keep saying he was 12? I remember him always being referred to as 13 when the story came out. Not that there’s much difference, but still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Un-frickin-believable

When Doran said it seemed like she was saying the 12-year-old was "relentlessly pursuing" her, but she was the adult, Letourneau responded, "You can say that. I was by age. You don't know him."

"I don't need to know him in this discussion, he's the child," Doran shot back. Letourneau then repeatedly asked her husband, "Who was the boss? Who was the boss? Who was the boss back then?" At this point, Fualaau said "this is ridiculous" and "this is getting weird," as she kept asking the same question. Eventually, he relented, saying, "I was the pursuer."

http://amp.toofab.com/2018/09/24/mary-kay-letourneau-combative-tv-interview-vili-fualaau-children-daughters

Evil.

[Anonymous]

Boys and girls aren't the same. They don't look at sex the same. When I was 13, I would've railed the brains out of an attractive 34 year old woman if she let me.

+1 My friends and I would have lined up for a piece of that action.