Mary Kay Letourneau considers herself the victim

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he in the sixth grade? She is absolutely a pedophile. She is only a victim of her sorry self. He is still being abused. Poor children. I hope someone is keeping an eye on them.

They’re in their twenties!

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he in the sixth grade? She is absolutely a pedophile. She is only a victim of her sorry self. He is still being abused. Poor children. I hope someone is keeping an eye on them.

He was in second grade when she began to groom him, giving him private piano lessons, I think.

She's a monster.

Ok, I think she’s a sicko, but how do you know that she was giving him piano lessons with the intention of “grooming” him?

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he in the sixth grade? She is absolutely a pedophile. She is only a victim of her sorry self. He is still being abused. Poor children. I hope someone is keeping an eye on them.

They’re in their twenties!

And they are all still being subjected to this psycho biotch pedophile of a mother. Obviously if she thinks that a 12 year old boy can have the upper hand over a 34 year old woman, she has bizarre attitudes about children in general. Maybe that's why she cut the padding out of her one daughter's bra when she was a teen.

This woman is sick, sick nightmare and a predator. If she were male she wouldn't be anywhere near her victim or the children born from her crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he in the sixth grade? She is absolutely a pedophile. She is only a victim of her sorry self. He is still being abused. Poor children. I hope someone is keeping an eye on them.

He was in second grade when she began to groom him, giving him private piano lessons, I think.

She's a monster.

Ok, I think she’s a sicko, but how do you know that she was giving him piano lessons with the intention of “grooming” him?

She created trust in that boy and then molested him and raped him. I'd say that is proof of her intentions.

And the scary thing is she sees nothing at all wrong with what she did.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a predator and should have no contact with children, including her own.

Her children are in their 20’s and 30’s. Should she not be allowed contact with them?

She should be locked up behind bars and she should not be allowed to be around children including her own grandchildren when and if her kids ever have children.

Personally, I do not think that she should be around that young man or their daughters. The level of dysfunction there is very twisted.

That young man is 34 years old.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a predator and should have no contact with children, including her own.

Her children are in their 20’s and 30’s. Should she not be allowed contact with them?

She should be locked up behind bars and she should not be allowed to be around children including her own grandchildren when and if her kids ever have children.

Personally, I do not think that she should be around that young man or their daughters. The level of dysfunction there is very twisted.

That young man is 34 years old.

That is the magic age when a rape victim is no longer a victim of a crime?

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12 year old kids still need to get hall passes from their teachers to go to the bathroom. A 12 year old kid is not ever mature enough, under any circumstances, to have sex with their middle aged teacher. The fact that you seem to be seeing this as a gray area....is really alarming.

Exactly. WTF is wrong with you, PP? You need to seek help.

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be the victim from the strictly legal perspective, but she was definitely victimized.

She is a pedophile predator wrapped in the package of a feminine woman. You see a girl so you must think that this was somehow not her fault?

Are you able to convince yourself that her male victim is now victimizing her? Serious question.

I think she's victimized by the process, by the tabloid media, and yes, even to some extent by her "victim", yes.

The young man was only a victim in the strictest legal sense of the word. He was a minor. He certainly didn't act like a victim, he was a willing partner in the relationship. The only thing that made him a "victim" was the law.

Would a man in the same circumstances be a victim? No. He'd be a sexual predator. Because men and women are different. Period. That's reality.

So I can come over and have sex with your middle schlooler is what you’re saying?

Assuming you're relatively attractive and fit/in shape, my 11th grader would almost certainly be sexually attracted to you. As would most of his friends. If you offered him the opportunity, I'm certain he would have sex with you. Have you ever had a teenage son? They're literally walking erections. It's simple biology.

Would I approve of him having sex with you? Not really, because I'd like to see him with someone his own age. But I wouldn't think for a minute that he'd pass up an opportunity to have sex with you if it presented. Boys are just that way. For them, it's just another form of masturbation.

No because when I was in 11 grade I did not find anyone’s mother attractive or sexy. Seriously you are very clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Wasn't he in the sixth grade? She is absolutely a pedophile. She is only a victim of her sorry self. He is still being abused. Poor children. I hope someone is keeping an eye on them.

He was in second grade when she began to groom him, giving him private piano lessons, I think.

She's a monster.

Ok, I think she’s a sicko, but how do you know that she was giving him piano lessons with the intention of “grooming” him?

She created trust in that boy and then molested him and raped him. I'd say that is proof of her intentions.

And the scary thing is she sees nothing at all wrong with what she did.

How is it proof that she had that intention when he was in second grade??

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be the victim from the strictly legal perspective, but she was definitely victimized.

She is a pedophile predator wrapped in the package of a feminine woman. You see a girl so you must think that this was somehow not her fault?

Are you able to convince yourself that her male victim is now victimizing her? Serious question.

I think she's victimized by the process, by the tabloid media, and yes, even to some extent by her "victim", yes.

The young man was only a victim in the strictest legal sense of the word. He was a minor. He certainly didn't act like a victim, he was a willing partner in the relationship. The only thing that made him a "victim" was the law.

Would a man in the same circumstances be a victim? No. He'd be a sexual predator. Because men and women are different. Period. That's reality.

So I can come over and have sex with your middle schlooler is what you’re saying?

Assuming you're relatively attractive and fit/in shape, my 11th grader would almost certainly be sexually attracted to you. As would most of his friends. If you offered him the opportunity, I'm certain he would have sex with you. Have you ever had a teenage son? They're literally walking erections. It's simple biology.

Would I approve of him having sex with you? Not really, because I'd like to see him with someone his own age. But I wouldn't think for a minute that he'd pass up an opportunity to have sex with you if it presented. Boys are just that way. For them, it's just another form of masturbation.

So the answer to the question is no since the question asks about a middle schooler and you are talking about your high schooler... or would that be ok with you too because it's just "simple biology"?

(I am equally grossed out by Mary Kay and this response.)

I don't HAVE a middle schooler. It's been three years since I did. But even then, he was rather mature for his age.

You find your own affirmations of your argument in whatever people say, so it doesn't matter what I think.

First of all, wow, you just outgrossed yourself with the bolded. Secondly, since we're talking about middle schoolers and you "don't have one" your post makes no point in this thread other than being creepy and foul.

How in the world am I getting pushback on whether a relationship between a 34 year old and a 12 year old is wrong and whether the CHILD in a victim? What is the world coming to, seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:She may not be the victim from the strictly legal perspective, but she was definitely victimized.

She is a pedophile predator wrapped in the package of a feminine woman. You see a girl so you must think that this was somehow not her fault?

Are you able to convince yourself that her male victim is now victimizing her? Serious question.

I think she's victimized by the process, by the tabloid media, and yes, even to some extent by her "victim", yes.

The young man was only a victim in the strictest legal sense of the word. He was a minor. He certainly didn't act like a victim, he was a willing partner in the relationship. The only thing that made him a "victim" was the law.

Would a man in the same circumstances be a victim? No. He'd be a sexual predator. Because men and women are different. Period. That's reality.

So I can come over and have sex with your middle schlooler is what you’re saying?

Assuming you're relatively attractive and fit/in shape, my 11th grader would almost certainly be sexually attracted to you. As would most of his friends. If you offered him the opportunity, I'm certain he would have sex with you. Have you ever had a teenage son? They're literally walking erections. It's simple biology.

Would I approve of him having sex with you? Not really, because I'd like to see him with someone his own age. But I wouldn't think for a minute that he'd pass up an opportunity to have sex with you if it presented. Boys are just that way. For them, it's just another form of masturbation.

NP here. You are very out of line with the mainstream here. First, there's a world of difference between a 12 year old (how old Fualaau was when the pedophilia began) and a 16 or 17 year old (the age most 11 graders are). In many states, 16 is considered the age of majority for consensual sex. Many people have argued that mature 15 year olds are mature enough to consent to sex, but not everyone. 12? You are the only person I have ever heard from who believes that a 12 year old can reasonable be mature enough to have consensual sex. While it is true that biologically they are ready (as is obvious by the many who do have early sex), it is non-consensual and the law says that they cannot consent because they aren't mature enough to understand the consequences.

While it is understandable that minors whose body is ready sexually want to experiment, it is incumbent upon adults not to take advantage of that state of biology. Yes, they are physically ready, but they are not emotionally or mature enough to actually consent. Even her husband, the victim, says this in a solo interview:

http://toofab.com/2018/09/24/mary-kay-letourneau-combative-tv-interview-vili-fualaau-children-daughters/

Solo interview with Faulaau wrote:In a solo interview, Fualaau said that what she did was legally "wrong," and added that they "maybe should have waited" to have a physical relationship. "I think about it, could I have ever done that, could I have ever been with a girl that's 13 years old right now and I don't see myself doing it," the now-35-year-old said.

He is about the age she was when she raped him. And he knows now that it's wrong and that he wouldn't do it.

She was 34 years old and she's not the first teacher or other adult that has been propositioned and chased by a minor with raging hormones and a body popping after puberty. It is the adult's responsibility to understand how wrong it is to give in to such propositions and pressures. It was no more right for her to prey upon him at his tender age (sexually mature and aggressive or not) than it is for a male teacher to prey upon a sexually mature and aggressive 12 or 13 year old girl. It's disgusting and reprehensible. The additional crime is that she was given a lighter sentence than would have been given had she been male. It's also despicable that she is unrepentant and feels that she was wrongly convicted. No remorse. And still no understanding that she is so morally bankrupt.

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Anonymous wrote:She's a predator and should have no contact with children, including her own.

Her children are in their 20’s and 30’s. Should she not be allowed contact with them?

She should be locked up behind bars and she should not be allowed to be around children including her own grandchildren when and if her kids ever have children.

Personally, I do not think that she should be around that young man or their daughters. The level of dysfunction there is very twisted.

That young man is 34 years old.

That is the magic age when a rape victim is no longer a victim of a crime?

He’s 34 years old. He presumably wants to be with her. How do you propose to keep a 34 year old man away from a woman he chooses to be with? And despite what society thinks, he does not consider himself to be a rape victim.

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She was 34 years old and she's not the first teacher or other adult that has been propositioned and chased by a minor with raging hormones and a body popping after puberty. It is the adult's responsibility to understand how wrong it is to give in to such propositions and pressures. It was no more right for her to prey upon him at his tender age (sexually mature and aggressive or not) than it is for a male teacher to prey upon a sexually mature and aggressive 12 or 13 year old girl. It's disgusting and reprehensible. The additional crime is that she was given a lighter sentence than would have been given had she been male. It's also despicable that she is unrepentant and feels that she was wrongly convicted. No remorse. And still no understanding that she is so morally bankrupt.

THIS, THIS, THIS, A MILLION BAZILLION TIMES THIS.

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That is the magic age when a rape victim is no longer a victim of a crime?

He’s 34 years old. He presumably wants to be with her. How do you propose to keep a 34 year old man away from a woman he chooses to be with? And despite what society thinks, he does not consider himself to be a rape victim.

He WAS raped, whether the 2 people involved see it that way or not. And if you've seen his interviews, he actually DOES know he was raped, he just can't seem to come out and say it. Probably because he is still her prisoner.