Arlington: 2018 college admissions

[Anonymous]

What is NCAA eligibility center and how is it that 9 applied and 0 got in from Yorktown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Arlington apologists can try to rationalize this all they want. The fact remains that Arlington's stats just aren't impressive. Does anyone have FCPS stats? I can't find them. Look at Bethesda. Much better stats. Arlingtonians want to talk up the UVa factor, but a significant portion of the Bethesda population is getting into UVa too---as out-of-staters, nonetheless. And Bethesda's admission rate to William and Mary is virtually equal to Arlington's. How is it that out-of-state Bethesda is yielding the same admissions result as in-state Arlington????

To answer your last question: Bethesda is generally, wealthy. State schools love to accept wealthy out-of-state-ers because they can charge them more and help subsidize in-state tuition. NoVa students in general face a relatively harder time getting into VA state schools because there are lots of well-qualified students applying from here, but the schools still have an obligation to serve students from all over the state.

[Anonymous]

It's so interesting that people from Bethesda and Fairfax seem to find it intolerable that some people might be content with Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that people from Bethesda and Fairfax seem to find it intolerable that some people might be content with Arlington.

It looks like the thread was started by someone in ACPS, which Arlington parents have insulted for many years on this forum.

Karma, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's so interesting that people from Bethesda and Fairfax seem to find it intolerable that some people might be content with Arlington.

It looks like the thread was started by someone in ACPS, which Arlington parents have insulted for many years on this forum.

Karma, etc.

That's not who I was talking about.

[Anonymous]

Most of the people I know from Bethesda are highly educated and Jewish. Going to an ivy is way more important to that demographic than the demographic of North Arlington. I think that's the difference in the numbers, not the UVA factor. I'm not sure why FCPS and Arlington residents seem to always bash each of their on this forum. Like demographic groups in those two school systems tend to do similarly. To be honest, both school systems are just fine and it's really the value families place on education that shapes the end results.

[Anonymous]

So we have a Bethesda troll who is becoming as prolific as the McLean troll now?

Try to be happy where you are, trolls, because spending so much time obsessing over schools that you “would never consider” is just a little bit unhealthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Run the numbers across all the schools with acceptance rate < 15% and then we can talk. Only looking at ivies is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Y'all are some petty weirdos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

Sucks when your kid doesn’t get in to TJ, doesn’t it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

Sucks when your kid doesn’t get in to TJ, doesn’t it?

Or AAP. Start of school always brings out the crazy in those parents as they have to watch other kids in the neighborhood head off to AAP/TJ while their kid is stuck in gen ed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

It's not a rationale, it's the truth. When people move "for the schools," it's not so their kids have a leg up at HYPS. It's so they don't have to go to a poor school with limited educational opportunities. It's so their kids can have great teachers who aren't overwhelmed by their caseload, so their kids can have opportunities for enrichment and field trips and interesting experiences, not so they can get in to HYPS. Understand? That's why. If Ivy is the only goal, pretty much everyone everywhere who doesn't have a hook or who isn't a legacy is going to be disappointed, and basing where you live on slightly better/worse odds at an Ivy is just a touch crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live in the Yorktown zone, and based on the dynamics I see in my neighborhood, these statistics don't concern me. Most of my neighbors are not drowning in money like some people want to believe of 22207, they are people who stretched their budgets a bit more to buy a smaller house on a smaller lot than they could have gotten in Fairfax but who wanted shorter commutes for more family time and better overall quality of life. These same people tend to prefer UVa and similar over Ivies for college because they see it as a better value and thus a better route for setting their kids up for a good quality of life later (lower debt burden after college = less pressure and more flexibility). Yes, Ivies are great, but not the be-all and end-all that someone should bankrupt themselves over. Their kids are more like to apply early to UVa and forego Ivy applications if they get in even if they could be competitive for Ivies. Not everyone fits that mold, of course, but I've also seen a trend for the families who are really gunning for Ivies to put their kids into private school early on (or if they can't afford private move to Fairfax in the hopes of getting into TJ, because they don't want to drive their kid from Arlington to TJ and then back the other way for work every day) because they feel that will maximize their chances. What this leaves is an applicant pool from Yorktown that is somewhat self-selecting and less likely to strive for Ivy for the sake of Ivy.

So why 138 applications from Yorktown to Ivies last year? It's not the number of applications that is low, but the number of admissions.

Public schools elsewhere in the Mid-Atlantic and elsewhere in the DMV fare much better. APS has really done a poor job with YHS.

Those applications also likely are not 138 kids but multiple applications from a smaller set of kids so you can't tell what the actual % admitted to at least one Ivy is.

It looks like it was 118 applications (not 138) and three acceptances to 2 schools (Cornell and Penn). It's possible that only two Yorktown students were admitted to those schools.

Given North Arlington demographics and how often people claim to move from DC for the schools, there's no way that isn't a disappointing outcome.

Why does moving "for the schools" = my kid must go to an Ivy? Some people really don't care. Or some might care a little but are in that spot where they can't afford those schools but make to much to get financial aid so they figure it's not worth applying when their kid will be fine at a strong state school or a lower-tier private that gives great merit aid (IME this is a lot of Arlington families). But those who do care a LOT about Ivy admission find it impossible to believe that others don't think it's super important. So this is an argument that will circle around endlessly.

Oh, the typical Arlington rationale when something doesn't come out on top like in Arlington's self-delusion.

And, again, you illustrate the bolded point. My kids had/are having a happy experience at W-L, one is already at a college that is a good fit for him, I'm not concerned about their future, and I like my community and my commute to work. I know it's really hard for you to believe but I seriously don't give a crap about the Ivy admission rate and I don't care what HS "comes out on top." I'm happy if those who do think that is the most important thing about a HS move elsewhere and dial down the HS pressure here.