Volvo SUV dream went south, need plan B for a reliable family car.

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Anonymous wrote:Really people? No one considering a Volvo XC90 that runs $60K+ well equipped (like the PP test model reviewed in the link above) is looking at a $30K Subaru as a comparable alternative.

It doesn't matter how much the thing cost. The bottom line is it is a poorly built Chinese car.

Range River also costs a lot, nevertheless, it is the car with tons of problems.

+1 couldn’t agree more!

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Anonymous wrote:I got a Jeep Grand Cherokee last year and I like it very much.

+1. Love mine!

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Anyone have experience (good or bad) with a comparable Lexus or Acura? We currently have a Q5 (not a fan!) and were also interested in replacing it with the Volvo.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question... I've lived in MD/VA over the past 45 years and I've known at least a dozen people over that time that have driven a Subaru forester and they were all LGBTQ and/or crunchy (save the earth type) people. Nothing against either group... I've had several good friends, a couple neighbors and even a boss who all drove Subaru forestors and fell into one of these groups. I always just wondered why this seemed to be the case. I'm sure this isn't representative of all Subaru drivers but it's been something I always wondered about since I haven't seen something like this with other cars.

I'm the PP.

FWIW, I'm the PP with an Outback and am a conservative, heterosexual, minority female with kids. I used to actually think the same thing - that Subarus were for LGBTQ people. Not sure where that comes from?

Subaru deliberately marketed to the LGBTQ community. Of course, itt has also marketed heavily to dog owners, outdoorsy people, and people worried about safety (the "They lived" ads).

I'm just a data point but we are a straight white liberal couple with one kid, one dog, and one car, which is a Subaru; I have been in love with Subarus since my friend had one in high school. My gay sister drives a Scion.

+1

The story about how Subaru came to be the car of choice of the lesbian community dates back 20+ years and is a fascinating read for anyone interested in cars or marketing.

[urlhttps://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/how-subarus-came-to-be-seen-as-cars-for-lesbians/488042/[/url]

They're also just fantastic cars- both of my parents as well as my sister swear by them (my 64 year old father loves his impreza hatchback more than any other car that he's owned!).

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Get a Hyundai!

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Anonymous wrote:Really people? No one considering a Volvo XC90 that runs $60K+ well equipped (like the PP test model reviewed in the link above) is looking at a $30K Subaru as a comparable alternative.

Yeah, that’s not true at all. Lots of people, even wealthy ones, see their car primarily as a transportation tool and not as a way to advertise they can afford a $1K/mo lease.

We’re looking at cars now and while we could easily write a check for an XC90, at the end of the day we just want a vehicle to get our family from point A to point B as comfortably and safely as possible. If we can find that for $40k why the hell would we spend 2x that just because we can?

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Honda CRV Touring edition. High tech electronics, bigger tires, all wheel drive, durable and dependable.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh man. I wanted the XC90, but now reading this I'm getting cold feet. What about the Infiniti QX60?

We love our Infiniti QX60. It's really roomy and drives really nicely.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone have experience (good or bad) with a comparable Lexus or Acura? We currently have a Q5 (not a fan!) and were also interested in replacing it with the Volvo.

No experience but you do realize that Audi is actually the same as Vokswagen right? Just more expensive because some
people think it is BMW.

Before you buy Volvo check out the problem reports on the model you are shopping for. There seem to be plenty.
I had no idea that Volvo is Chinese own and made in China. Is this even European car anymore by that token?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh man. I wanted the XC90, but now reading this I'm getting cold feet. What about the Infiniti QX60?

We love our Infiniti QX60. It's really roomy and drives really nicely.

How reliable are the Infinities in the long run? Do they break a lot, a little..?
Is it expensive to fix the problems that might come with them?
Tell me more. Would love to learn more.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 2018 Highlander Limited Platinum. It has all the bells and whistles and only cost me $42,500 and I got Japanese reliability.

Me too, though I bought a low mileage used 2016 model last year and saved a little (though not much -- maybe $3,000?) as they don't depreciate as quickly as others.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 2018 Highlander Limited Platinum. It has all the bells and whistles and only cost me $42,500 and I got Japanese reliability.

Me too, though I bought a low mileage used 2016 model last year and saved a little (though not much -- maybe $3,000?) as they don't depreciate as quickly as others.

... and it will last long enough for DS then DD (assuming DS hasn't destroyed it) to drive in high school, at which point I get my convertible.

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Anonymous wrote:Really people? No one considering a Volvo XC90 that runs $60K+ well equipped (like the PP test model reviewed in the link above) is looking at a $30K Subaru as a comparable alternative.

Yeah, that’s not true at all. Lots of people, even wealthy ones, see their car primarily as a transportation tool and not as a way to advertise they can afford a $1K/mo lease.

We’re looking at cars now and while we could easily write a check for an XC90, at the end of the day we just want a vehicle to get our family from point A to point B as comfortably and safely as possible. If we can find that for $40k why the hell would we spend 2x that just because we can?

And I'm sure you're the same person who bought a $500K home even though they could write a check for a $1M home just because it's basic roof over your head... I'm NP but I don't believe this is truly the case for most (meaning 90%+ of the time I think PP is right)

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Get an X5

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OP, I have the XC90. The runner-up was the Subaru (the bigger one)