| Really people? No one considering a Volvo XC90 that runs $60K+ well equipped (like the PP test model reviewed in the link above) is looking at a $30K Subaru as a comparable alternative. |
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| Does anyone have any experience with the Volkswagen Atlas? |
I'll disagree. We compared the Audi and the Volvo and the Outback. Honestly the Outback has been phenomenal. Glad we didn't spend the extra money. YMMV |
I'm the PP. FWIW, I'm the PP with an Outback and am a conservative, heterosexual, minority female with kids. I used to actually think the same thing - that Subarus were for LGBTQ people. Not sure where that comes from? |
Right. Why would anyone want to spend double the money when there is no need to. Especially on an asset that immediately depreciates. |
| I do strongly suggest test driving whatever you're considering. I'm a shorter female, and also found the Audi 5 to have huge blind spots, and the BMWX5 (and 3, and even the tiny electric one) to be really uncomfortable to reach the seatbelt return (which seems like a small thing, but I would end up with a huge knot if my back if I did that 4-6 times a day, every day). Ended up with the smaller Volvo - the XC-60. Love it so far... I did also like the way the Forrester and the Honda handled - comfortable and small blind spots (yes, even with sensors, safe drivers need to be able to actually see) but figured I'd be happier with the fancier car in 10 -15 years, since we tend to drive our cars into the ground. |
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Great thread. I’ve been looking at Car and Driver for reviews and youtube has some good reviews. I told DC they could have my old paid off SUV before I went out and test drove the new ones with reviews in hand. Mistake.
I’ll keep watching this thread hoping people come up with that magic suv. Op, I was thrilled to have one of the first xc90s but, would only sell it to a mechanic by the very end. |
| FWIW, our XC90 is absolutely incredible. Our 2016 Honda Pilot is blah for many reasons and the X5 we sold was full of problems. |
| Oh man. I wanted the XC90, but now reading this I'm getting cold feet. What about the Infiniti QX60? |
Subaru deliberately marketed to the LGBTQ community. Of course, itt has also marketed heavily to dog owners, outdoorsy people, and people worried about safety (the "They lived" ads). I'm just a data point but we are a straight white liberal couple with one kid, one dog, and one car, which is a Subaru; I have been in love with Subarus since my friend had one in high school. My gay sister drives a Scion. |
It doesn't matter how much the thing cost. The bottom line is it is a poorly built Chinese car. Range River also costs a lot, nevertheless, it is the car with tons of problems. |
Former VW owner here- I wouldn’t drive another one if you paid me. Enjoy having your car in the shop every weekend. |