Cox Farms in Nova - "Resist White Supremacy" sign

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody give me a logical, rationale explanation as to why "Resist White Supremacy" is offensive.

The (good) argument that someone gave is that "White Supremacist" is used by many on the Left to call names on anyone Conservative, so if you are conservative and *not* a White Supremacist, it might still be offensive, in a similar way to how perhaps many (some?) on the Left might feel if Cox Farms put up a "Resist Commies" sign - even if some Liberal voters are not communists, they understand that that term is often applied broadly to the entire political party and will thus be offended/feel negatively.


I'm a conservative and not a racist but I do understand the unstated implications and meaning behind the term. Just in this thread alone I've been called a white supremacist for simply stating my conservatism. I know a lot of you Liberals will pretend ignorance but there it is.

Just wondering, with your sensitivity to unstated implications, what your position is on monuments to the Confederacy? Are they offensive? Or just people celebrating their heritage, and people who see "unstated implications and meanings" are liberal snowflakes?

I'm a moderate conservative. I gave an explanation about why that sign is "offensive" to a lot of conservative because someone asked. Now, "sensitivity?" No, I don't really care that much myself about the sign - it would be irritating to see for all the reasons I gave, but not "offensive." If you want a debate on monuments, start another thread.

Yeah guys! Don’t demand logical consistency! Keep stuff separate so I don’t have to get called out on hypocrisy!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a moderate conservative and a minority I'm over the massive straw man by the left that is White Supremacy. Let's be against crazies on both sides. And yes, you socialist nutjob lefties are just as bad if not worse than the KKK hicks from the boondocks. F you all.

Fairfax Underground misses you. Feel free to head back anytime.

I'm not from FF Underground. I know it's hard to grasp this with your feeble mind, but there are millions of Conservatives in this country and I'm one of them, with opinions, and we don't hang out on FF underground.

You might be a conservative politically but you are also a white supremacist.

Do you literally call every conservative a white supremacist? Did you miss the part where I am not white?

Different poster. You said lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK. You called white supremacy a straw man. Who cares if you claim to be a minority? Your stated opinions are those of a white supremacist sympathizer, period.

Having the opinions that *Crazy* *extreme* lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK does not make me a sympathizer. In fact, I despise the KKK and I despise the extreme Liberals as well. It is poor logic to assume that to be against White Supremacy you MUST believe that there is nothing worse. In fact, there are worse things, in my opinion. It is super irresponsible to be throwing around "white supremacist" as a casual insult like you do.

Nobody said there is *nothing* worse than white supremacy. But calling it a straw man that you are over sure makes you sound like a sympathizer. Frankly, I love that you find this sign so provocative. It's bugging some of my conservative relatives, too; and they're twisting themselves into pretzels trying not to spew their normal soft racism.

Also: you said "You socialist nutjob lefties...F you all." So, you're not in a position to complain about casual insults.

"Nobody" - you said it (if you were the PP) when your only supporting statement to calling me a "white supremacist" was that I said crazy liberals are worse. Notice I said "let's be against crazies on both sides," which you casually ignored. Don't back peddle and stop calling everyone a "White Supremacist."

You said white supremacy is a straw man, too. Talk about back pedaling--you've ignored that part of your quote several times over. Also ignoring the point about getting upset about name calling and then reverting to calling folks in this thread "you socialist nutjob leftties."

Ignored? Do you even understand what "strawman" means? I called White Supremacy a "straw man" because it is a straw man - Liberals take a minuscule, highly unlike able group of people who call themselves "conservative" and not only apply it broadly and to everyone in the party, but to also obscure other practical issues on which more debate should be had. It's just as bad as if I took the violence of ANTIFA and applied it broadly to the rest of the Democratic Party. No, it's not because I personally identify with the KKK - I'm literally faced with a barrage of this sort of mass grouping and strawman long on this site and elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody give me a logical, rationale explanation as to why "Resist White Supremacy" is offensive.

The (good) argument that someone gave is that "White Supremacist" is used by many on the Left to call names on anyone Conservative, so if you are conservative and *not* a White Supremacist, it might still be offensive, in a similar way to how perhaps many (some?) on the Left might feel if Cox Farms put up a "Resist Commies" sign - even if some Liberal voters are not communists, they understand that that term is often applied broadly to the entire political party and will thus be offended/feel negatively.


I'm a conservative and not a racist but I do understand the unstated implications and meaning behind the term. Just in this thread alone I've been called a white supremacist for simply stating my conservatism. I know a lot of you Liberals will pretend ignorance but there it is.

Just wondering, with your sensitivity to unstated implications, what your position is on monuments to the Confederacy? Are they offensive? Or just people celebrating their heritage, and people who see "unstated implications and meanings" are liberal snowflakes?

I'm a moderate conservative. I gave an explanation about why that sign is "offensive" to a lot of conservative because someone asked. Now, "sensitivity?" No, I don't really care that much myself about the sign - it would be irritating to see for all the reasons I gave, but not "offensive." If you want a debate on monuments, start another thread.

Sorry, can you articulate again why the sign is offensive to a lot of conservatives? I don't think I understood your explanation, so can you please explain it to me in concrete terms?

Why is the sign "Resist White Supremacy" on private property offensive to a lot of conservatives?

I already spelled it out. You'll have to be more specific as to what it is you don't get. Let me guess - this is just an opening to more insults and hate from you "peace loving" Liberals?

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Anonymous wrote:Holy sh#t. Have conservatives lost their mind?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/resist-white-supremacy-a-sign-a-farm-and-the-fury-that-followed/2018/02/13/47e7dfa2-10e0-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html

So they are now supporting white supremacy? How have y'all fallen so low, so quickly?

Link to the debates on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CoxFarmsVa/photos/a.111775332453.97085.105458692453/10156345631902454/

No that person who wrote to complain was just stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody give me a logical, rationale explanation as to why "Resist White Supremacy" is offensive.

The (good) argument that someone gave is that "White Supremacist" is used by many on the Left to call names on anyone Conservative, so if you are conservative and *not* a White Supremacist, it might still be offensive, in a similar way to how perhaps many (some?) on the Left might feel if Cox Farms put up a "Resist Commies" sign - even if some Liberal voters are not communists, they understand that that term is often applied broadly to the entire political party and will thus be offended/feel negatively.


I'm a conservative and not a racist but I do understand the unstated implications and meaning behind the term. Just in this thread alone I've been called a white supremacist for simply stating my conservatism. I know a lot of you Liberals will pretend ignorance but there it is.

Just wondering, with your sensitivity to unstated implications, what your position is on monuments to the Confederacy? Are they offensive? Or just people celebrating their heritage, and people who see "unstated implications and meanings" are liberal snowflakes?

I'm a moderate conservative. I gave an explanation about why that sign is "offensive" to a lot of conservative because someone asked. Now, "sensitivity?" No, I don't really care that much myself about the sign - it would be irritating to see for all the reasons I gave, but not "offensive." If you want a debate on monuments, start another thread.

First, you're diverting based on the word sensitivity - fine. Change it to "understanding," which is the words you used. Will you answer now?

But we know you won't, and your refusal speaks volumes. You don't want to denounce confederate monuments, but can't figure out a way, given that you "understand the unstated implications," of arguing that they should remain without demonstrating your hypocrisy.

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Anonymous wrote:Somebody give me a logical, rationale explanation as to why "Resist White Supremacy" is offensive.

The (good) argument that someone gave is that "White Supremacist" is used by many on the Left to call names on anyone Conservative, so if you are conservative and *not* a White Supremacist, it might still be offensive, in a similar way to how perhaps many (some?) on the Left might feel if Cox Farms put up a "Resist Commies" sign - even if some Liberal voters are not communists, they understand that that term is often applied broadly to the entire political party and will thus be offended/feel negatively.


I'm a conservative and not a racist but I do understand the unstated implications and meaning behind the term. Just in this thread alone I've been called a white supremacist for simply stating my conservatism. I know a lot of you Liberals will pretend ignorance but there it is.

Just wondering, with your sensitivity to unstated implications, what your position is on monuments to the Confederacy? Are they offensive? Or just people celebrating their heritage, and people who see "unstated implications and meanings" are liberal snowflakes?

I'm a moderate conservative. I gave an explanation about why that sign is "offensive" to a lot of conservative because someone asked. Now, "sensitivity?" No, I don't really care that much myself about the sign - it would be irritating to see for all the reasons I gave, but not "offensive." If you want a debate on monuments, start another thread.

First, you're diverting based on the word sensitivity - fine. Change it to "understanding," which is the words you used. Will you answer now?

But we know you won't, and your refusal speaks volumes. You don't want to denounce confederate monuments, but can't figure out a way, given that you "understand the unstated implications," of arguing that they should remain without demonstrating your hypocrisy.

You are delusional because you just spouted a bunch of nonsense about monuments and how I supposedly think and you think your reasoning is beyond reproach. Think again. I have no idea what you're going on about. I'm a moderate conservative. I actually don't think that much about monuments and Confederate history or whatever the else you want to discuss. I'm a minority and moderate conservative and those aspects of this crazy political war is pretty far from my radar. You want to debate those things, *start a new thread.*. And get your head checked out.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a moderate conservative and a minority I'm over the massive straw man by the left that is White Supremacy. Let's be against crazies on both sides. And yes, you socialist nutjob lefties are just as bad if not worse than the KKK hicks from the boondocks. F you all.

Fairfax Underground misses you. Feel free to head back anytime.

I'm not from FF Underground. I know it's hard to grasp this with your feeble mind, but there are millions of Conservatives in this country and I'm one of them, with opinions, and we don't hang out on FF underground.

You might be a conservative politically but you are also a white supremacist.

Do you literally call every conservative a white supremacist? Did you miss the part where I am not white?

Different poster. You said lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK. You called white supremacy a straw man. Who cares if you claim to be a minority? Your stated opinions are those of a white supremacist sympathizer, period.

Having the opinions that *Crazy* *extreme* lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK does not make me a sympathizer. In fact, I despise the KKK and I despise the extreme Liberals as well. It is poor logic to assume that to be against White Supremacy you MUST believe that there is nothing worse. In fact, there are worse things, in my opinion. It is super irresponsible to be throwing around "white supremacist" as a casual insult like you do.

Nobody said there is *nothing* worse than white supremacy. But calling it a straw man that you are over sure makes you sound like a sympathizer. Frankly, I love that you find this sign so provocative. It's bugging some of my conservative relatives, too; and they're twisting themselves into pretzels trying not to spew their normal soft racism.

Also: you said "You socialist nutjob lefties...F you all." So, you're not in a position to complain about casual insults.

"Nobody" - you said it (if you were the PP) when your only supporting statement to calling me a "white supremacist" was that I said crazy liberals are worse. Notice I said "let's be against crazies on both sides," which you casually ignored. Don't back peddle and stop calling everyone a "White Supremacist."

You said white supremacy is a straw man, too. Talk about back pedaling--you've ignored that part of your quote several times over. Also ignoring the point about getting upset about name calling and then reverting to calling folks in this thread "you socialist nutjob leftties."

Ignored? Do you even understand what "strawman" means? I called White Supremacy a "straw man" because it is a straw man - Liberals take a minuscule, highly unlike able group of people who call themselves "conservative" and not only apply it broadly and to everyone in the party, but to also obscure other practical issues on which more debate should be had. It's just as bad as if I took the violence of ANTIFA and applied it broadly to the rest of the Democratic Party. No, it's not because I personally identify with the KKK - I'm literally faced with a barrage of this sort of mass grouping and strawman long on this site and elsewhere.

You are wrong. "White Supremacy" does not *just* mean the KKK. You don't need to personally identify with KKK to be a white supremacist, and you definitely don't have to be a KKK member to be a racist. Antifa is a false equivalent, because what's controversial about Antifa is not their message (anti-fascism) but their methods (willingness to use violence). White Supremacy is not a controversial method of expressing a reasonable sentiment. There is no White Supremacy philosophy that is or should be acceptable.

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Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

Someone tried to explain it to you. Or are you trying to be an a$$hole and troll?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

Someone tried to explain it to you. Or are you trying to be an a$$hole and troll?

No, really! Please help. All I saw was "white supremacy is a strawman" and "all extremists are bad." Neither of these explain why this sign is offensive to "a lot of" conservatives. My sister is exactly the kind of person who would say this sign is offensive but not explain why.

I really do not get it and it sounds like you do. Looking for some thoughtful discourse that might shed some light and not resort to flame throwing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a moderate conservative and a minority I'm over the massive straw man by the left that is White Supremacy. Let's be against crazies on both sides. And yes, you socialist nutjob lefties are just as bad if not worse than the KKK hicks from the boondocks. F you all.

Fairfax Underground misses you. Feel free to head back anytime.

I'm not from FF Underground. I know it's hard to grasp this with your feeble mind, but there are millions of Conservatives in this country and I'm one of them, with opinions, and we don't hang out on FF underground.

You might be a conservative politically but you are also a white supremacist.

Do you literally call every conservative a white supremacist? Did you miss the part where I am not white?

Different poster. You said lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK. You called white supremacy a straw man. Who cares if you claim to be a minority? Your stated opinions are those of a white supremacist sympathizer, period.

Having the opinions that *Crazy* *extreme* lefties are just as bad or worse than the KKK does not make me a sympathizer. In fact, I despise the KKK and I despise the extreme Liberals as well. It is poor logic to assume that to be against White Supremacy you MUST believe that there is nothing worse. In fact, there are worse things, in my opinion. It is super irresponsible to be throwing around "white supremacist" as a casual insult like you do.

Nobody said there is *nothing* worse than white supremacy. But calling it a straw man that you are over sure makes you sound like a sympathizer. Frankly, I love that you find this sign so provocative. It's bugging some of my conservative relatives, too; and they're twisting themselves into pretzels trying not to spew their normal soft racism.

Also: you said "You socialist nutjob lefties...F you all." So, you're not in a position to complain about casual insults.

"Nobody" - you said it (if you were the PP) when your only supporting statement to calling me a "white supremacist" was that I said crazy liberals are worse. Notice I said "let's be against crazies on both sides," which you casually ignored. Don't back peddle and stop calling everyone a "White Supremacist."

You said white supremacy is a straw man, too. Talk about back pedaling--you've ignored that part of your quote several times over. Also ignoring the point about getting upset about name calling and then reverting to calling folks in this thread "you socialist nutjob leftties."

Ignored? Do you even understand what "strawman" means? I called White Supremacy a "straw man" because it is a straw man - Liberals take a minuscule, highly unlike able group of people who call themselves "conservative" and not only apply it broadly and to everyone in the party, but to also obscure other practical issues on which more debate should be had. It's just as bad as if I took the violence of ANTIFA and applied it broadly to the rest of the Democratic Party. No, it's not because I personally identify with the KKK - I'm literally faced with a barrage of this sort of mass grouping and strawman long on this site and elsewhere.

You are wrong. "White Supremacy" does not *just* mean the KKK. You don't need to personally identify with KKK to be a white supremacist, and you definitely don't have to be a KKK member to be a racist. Antifa is a false equivalent, because what's controversial about Antifa is not their message (anti-fascism) but their methods (willingness to use violence). White Supremacy is not a controversial method of expressing a reasonable sentiment. There is no White Supremacy philosophy that is or should be acceptable.

You sound like you're purposefully being obtuse by picking at definitions and technicalities that simply do not matter.

The point is that a group of people can be offended by something even when it doesn't refer to their actual beliefs, either by the way it's used by their opponent. If Cox farms throws up a sign that says "resist Commies," a significant portion of the population understands or assumes that it's a dig on the Left as a whole. We're not here to discuss what's worse - White supremacy or Comminism? Because it's irrelevant. Got it? No, probably not eh?

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

Someone tried to explain it to you. Or are you trying to be an a$$hole and troll?

No, really! Please help. All I saw was "white supremacy is a strawman" and "all extremists are bad." Neither of these explain why this sign is offensive to "a lot of" conservatives. My sister is exactly the kind of person who would say this sign is offensive but not explain why.

I really do not get it and it sounds like you do. Looking for some thoughtful discourse that might shed some light and not resort to flame throwing.

You need to read more carefully or troll less. Pick one.

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

The sign was put up by liberals. That’s all the explanation needed for many. It could have been a “Scoop Your Dog’s Poop” sign and conservatives would be up in arms about it if liberals were the ones who put it up.

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Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the explanation of why the "Resist White Supremacy" sign is offensive to many conservatives, thanks.

Someone tried to explain it to you. Or are you trying to be an a$$hole and troll?

No, really! Please help. All I saw was "white supremacy is a strawman" and "all extremists are bad." Neither of these explain why this sign is offensive to "a lot of" conservatives. My sister is exactly the kind of person who would say this sign is offensive but not explain why.

I really do not get it and it sounds like you do. Looking for some thoughtful discourse that might shed some light and not resort to flame throwing.

You need to read more carefully or troll less. Pick one.

Please, at least quite the posting that has an explanation. Why can't you explain?

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You sound like you're purposefully being obtuse by picking at definitions and technicalities that simply do not matter.

The point is that a group of people can be offended by something even when it doesn't refer to their actual beliefs, either by the way it's used by their opponent. If Cox farms throws up a sign that says "resist Commies," a significant portion of the population understands or assumes that it's a dig on the Left as a whole. We're not here to discuss what's worse - White supremacy or Comminism? Because it's irrelevant. Got it? No, probably not eh?

So, you are offended because you think a sign about white supremacy is a dig at ALL Conservatives?