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Anonymous wrote:...necessary?

What harm would result if a girl attended the homecoming dance in a dress you consider unsuitable?

NP. I guess for me, it's a school event, and as the host, schools have a right to determine what is and isn't allowed. My kids are only in elementary/middle school, but I've already seen it a lot: for the elementary school chorus winter and spring concerts, the kids have to wear nice clothes I.e. no jeans, sweats, shirts with graphics, etc. My middle schooler was invited to a leadership conference type thing at school, and he wasn't allowed to wear jeans (had to be dress/khaki/etc. pants). My elementary schooler went to a performance at a local theater, and the kids had to dress nicely- again, no jeans, sweats, etc. And so on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen some pretty slinky/revealing dresses at homecoming and prom. I was under the impression it was the parent's responsibility to make sure their child was dressed appropriately. Unfortunately, parents are not doing their job...so somebody has to do it.

And so it is. Each parent has the job of making the decision for their child about the appropriateness of the child's clothing. To ensure that each parent has done their job, the school can require a signed form from each student attending the homecoming dance. I hereby certify that I do/do not (circle one) consider my child, Larlo/Larla, to be dressed appropriately for the homecoming dance, signed Larlo/Larla's parent. Students whose parents circled "do not" will be turned away at the door.

And, then the parents come and throw a fit. People who don't think the rules apply to them refuse to follow the rules and then refuse to follow the rules about not following the rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...necessary?

What harm would result if a girl attended the homecoming dance in a dress you consider unsuitable?

NP. I guess for me, it's a school event, and as the host, schools have a right to determine what is and isn't allowed. My kids are only in elementary/middle school, but I've already seen it a lot: for the elementary school chorus winter and spring concerts, the kids have to wear nice clothes I.e. no jeans, sweats, shirts with graphics, etc. My middle schooler was invited to a leadership conference type thing at school, and he wasn't allowed to wear jeans (had to be dress/khaki/etc. pants). My elementary schooler went to a performance at a local theater, and the kids had to dress nicely- again, no jeans, sweats, etc. And so on.

Exactly. Adults are trying to set the tone and the expectations for the event by requiring a certain level of dress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...necessary?

What harm would result if a girl attended the homecoming dance in a dress you consider unsuitable?

NP. I guess for me, it's a school event, and as the host, schools have a right to determine what is and isn't allowed. My kids are only in elementary/middle school, but I've already seen it a lot: for the elementary school chorus winter and spring concerts, the kids have to wear nice clothes I.e. no jeans, sweats, shirts with graphics, etc. My middle schooler was invited to a leadership conference type thing at school, and he wasn't allowed to wear jeans (had to be dress/khaki/etc. pants). My elementary schooler went to a performance at a local theater, and the kids had to dress nicely- again, no jeans, sweats, etc. And so on.

But the dress code in this case is not "This is a dressy occasion, so students should dress nicely". And as some of the posters on this thread have made clear, the "inappropriate" dresses aren't considered inappropriate because they're too casual for a dressy occasion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...necessary?

What harm would result if a girl attended the homecoming dance in a dress you consider unsuitable?

NP. I guess for me, it's a school event, and as the host, schools have a right to determine what is and isn't allowed. My kids are only in elementary/middle school, but I've already seen it a lot: for the elementary school chorus winter and spring concerts, the kids have to wear nice clothes I.e. no jeans, sweats, shirts with graphics, etc. My middle schooler was invited to a leadership conference type thing at school, and he wasn't allowed to wear jeans (had to be dress/khaki/etc. pants). My elementary schooler went to a performance at a local theater, and the kids had to dress nicely- again, no jeans, sweats, etc. And so on.

But the dress code in this case is not "This is a dressy occasion, so students should dress nicely". And as some of the posters on this thread have made clear, the "inappropriate" dresses aren't considered inappropriate because they're too casual for a dressy occasion.

No, they were considered inappropriate because they showed skin/cleavage/butts/etc. Which is totally acceptable for a school to set limits for, just as they are able to set limits that kids wear dressy clothes for a performance or conference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen some pretty slinky/revealing dresses at homecoming and prom. I was under the impression it was the parent's responsibility to make sure their child was dressed appropriately. Unfortunately, parents are not doing their job...so somebody has to do it.

And so it is. Each parent has the job of making the decision for their child about the appropriateness of the child's clothing. To ensure that each parent has done their job, the school can require a signed form from each student attending the homecoming dance. I hereby certify that I do/do not (circle one) consider my child, Larlo/Larla, to be dressed appropriately for the homecoming dance, signed Larlo/Larla's parent. Students whose parents circled "do not" will be turned away at the door.

And, then the parents come and throw a fit. People who don't think the rules apply to them refuse to follow the rules and then refuse to follow the rules about not following the rules.

About what? That the school set rules? In my opinion, if parents are going to throw fits no matter what rules you set, then you should at least set clear, objective rules that apply to all and that are directly related to the goal they are supposed to achieve. In the case of the OP's school, parents are going to throw a fit about an unclear, subjective rule that applies only to girls and that is only directly related to the goal the school is trying to achieve, if the goal is to make it clear to girls that girls' bodies are subject to public inspection.

[Anonymous]

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No, they were considered inappropriate because they showed skin/cleavage/butts/etc. Which is totally acceptable for a school to set limits for, just as they are able to set limits that kids wear dressy clothes for a performance or conference.

Why? Why is it acceptable for a school to tell a girl that the dress for her homecoming dance may not expose her collar bone, or her back, or her stomach, or her knees, or her upper arms, or...? If the school required all homecoming dance dresses to have sleeves to the wrist because it's inappropriate to have bare arms at a school dance, would you support that? How about heel height? Girls are only allowed to wear heels of 2.5" or less; please bring your shoes to the office the day before the dance so that the school secretary can measure them? How about color? The principal thinks that the combination of lime green and Kelly green is hideously ugly, so nobody is allowed to wear anything that has both colors?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen some pretty slinky/revealing dresses at homecoming and prom. I was under the impression it was the parent's responsibility to make sure their child was dressed appropriately. Unfortunately, parents are not doing their job...so somebody has to do it.

And so it is. Each parent has the job of making the decision for their child about the appropriateness of the child's clothing. To ensure that each parent has done their job, the school can require a signed form from each student attending the homecoming dance. I hereby certify that I do/do not (circle one) consider my child, Larlo/Larla, to be dressed appropriately for the homecoming dance, signed Larlo/Larla's parent. Students whose parents circled "do not" will be turned away at the door.

And, then the parents come and throw a fit. People who don't think the rules apply to them refuse to follow the rules and then refuse to follow the rules about not following the rules.

About what? That the school set rules? In my opinion, if parents are going to throw fits no matter what rules you set, then you should at least set clear, objective rules that apply to all and that are directly related to the goal they are supposed to achieve. In the case of the OP's school, parents are going to throw a fit about an unclear, subjective rule that applies only to girls and that is only directly related to the goal the school is trying to achieve, if the goal is to make it clear to girls that girls' bodies are subject to public inspection.

The parents get mad because they don't think their kid should have to follow the rules. I think what some of you are missing is that school administrators have had to resort to these kinds of tactics because some of the clothing is truly questionable. Like I said earlier, it isn't just some girl's collarbone that's showing; we're talking slits up to the exposed underwear, plunging backs that show ass cracks, short tops that barely cover the bottoms of the breasts.

[Anonymous]

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No, they were considered inappropriate because they showed skin/cleavage/butts/etc. Which is totally acceptable for a school to set limits for, just as they are able to set limits that kids wear dressy clothes for a performance or conference.

Why? Why is it acceptable for a school to tell a girl that the dress for her homecoming dance may not expose her collar bone, or her back, or her stomach, or her knees, or her upper arms, or...? If the school required all homecoming dance dresses to have sleeves to the wrist because it's inappropriate to have bare arms at a school dance, would you support that? How about heel height? Girls are only allowed to wear heels of 2.5" or less; please bring your shoes to the office the day before the dance so that the school secretary can measure them? How about color? The principal thinks that the combination of lime green and Kelly green is hideously ugly, so nobody is allowed to wear anything that has both colors?

Why shouldn't a school be able to tell a girl not to show her private parts in public? Who wants to see her ass crack? It's become so ridiculous that schools have to monitor what kids wear because no one else is monitoring it. What happened to the days where parents didn't want their kids to go to the prom with their asses hanging out of their dress?

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Anonymous wrote:I am guessing that in your hometown someone showed up inone of those skanky trashy homecoming dresses that look like a stripper picked it out.

As I tell my kids, stupid school rules are usually the result of A) someone's really stupid action B) Someone getting hurt C) A pita complaining or D) a combination of the three.

Stupid school rules are the result of school administrators making stupid rules. School administrators were not forced to make this rule. A skimpy dress is a skimpy dress, not a gun to the head.

Nope.

Running a school (or any other kids activity) is like organizing a wedding with 2000 mother in laws, each with different ideas on how things should be done.

This rule is a result of trampy mom who things a sexy tramp dress is a great idea for her 14 year old daughter to wow everyone at homecoming.

I bet the dress that sparked this rule was a doozy.

And this forced the school administrators to make a stupid rule because...?

Likely the skanky-ness is ripe at that high school and they uad to shut it down somehow.

Apparently, skanky-ness is the new female empowerment.

And who are you to decide what is skanky and what is not? You know what I find the most skanky behavior of all. Grown ass woman calling little girls skanky no matter what the said little girl is wearing.

I think we can all agree that visible vulva when seated is inappropriate and unhygenic. If the boys were coming to the dance with fuzzy round bottoms of their testicles exposed I'm fairly certain they would crack down on that too!

[Anonymous]

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Why shouldn't a school be able to tell a girl not to show her private parts in public? Who wants to see her ass crack? It's become so ridiculous that schools have to monitor what kids wear because no one else is monitoring it. What happened to the days where parents didn't want their kids to go to the prom with their asses hanging out of their dress?

But the school didn't do that. It would have been easy to do that, by making the rule, "No visible genitals." No need to fool around with all of this ridiculous and ineffective pre-approval of dresses (and only dresses -- as though genitals couldn't also be visible when people are wearing skirts or shorts). So why didn't the school do that?

[Anonymous]

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The parents get mad because they don't think their kid should have to follow the rules. I think what some of you are missing is that school administrators have had to resort to these kinds of tactics because some of the clothing is truly questionable. Like I said earlier, it isn't just some girl's collarbone that's showing; we're talking slits up to the exposed underwear, plunging backs that show ass cracks, short tops that barely cover the bottoms of the breasts.

OK, and? Who decides that that a dress that shows a girl's collarbone is appropriate but a dress that shows a girl's whole leg or her back isn't? You? Me? The principal? Each girl's parents?

I think it's inappropriate for parents to spend more than $100 on a homecoming outfit. Parents ought to already know this, but evidently some of them aren't doing their job. So I think that students should be required to submit an itemized list of their homecoming outfits, with the cost of each item, before being allowed to buy tickets.

[Anonymous]

Facially discriminatory. Nearly all school dress codes are. They are invasive and disgusting. We do not comply, and we will happily sue any individual school admin, in his/her personal capacity, if we get called in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Facially discriminatory. Nearly all school dress codes are. They are invasive and disgusting. We do not comply, and we will happily sue any individual school admin, in his/her personal capacity, if we get called in.

Oh stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

The parents get mad because they don't think their kid should have to follow the rules. I think what some of you are missing is that school administrators have had to resort to these kinds of tactics because some of the clothing is truly questionable. Like I said earlier, it isn't just some girl's collarbone that's showing; we're talking slits up to the exposed underwear, plunging backs that show ass cracks, short tops that barely cover the bottoms of the breasts.

OK, and? Who decides that that a dress that shows a girl's collarbone is appropriate but a dress that shows a girl's whole leg or her back isn't? You? Me? The principal? Each girl's parents?

I think it's inappropriate for parents to spend more than $100 on a homecoming outfit. Parents ought to already know this, but evidently some of them aren't doing their job. So I think that students should be required to submit an itemized list of their homecoming outfits, with the cost of each item, before being allowed to buy tickets.

You're right, schools should just do away with all the rules since no one should be in charge of deciding what the rules should be. We'll just let the kids do whatever they want; it'll be great.