DeVos' first commencement address - It did not go well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Right, they should be so grateful to have her over their own objections. Who are they to have an opinion about their own commencement ceremony? Or education?

So, you condone rude behavior then. Hope you don’t teach your children how to be rude and disrespectful.

Not PP, but I do NOT teach my children that politeness overrides everything else.

Personally, I think they should have all stood up and walked out of the room when she began speaking.

I am sure your children’ teachers think your kids are simply a delight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree the school should not have invited her.

But once they did invite her, the students should have sat quietly, hands in laps. They can show disagreement through lack of clapping.

No offense, but it isn't patronizing to tell these adults HOW to protest? You want them to protest in the least objectionable and disruptive manner. That kind of defeats the purpose of the protest. And for the record, not all the students booed. Some QUIETLY turned their backs.

I saw the video. Sure sounded noisy and rude to me. Some may have quietly turned their banks, but others did not. Since there's no way to know which ones were belligerent, the entire school will look bad to some emoloyers, and it will work against these students. In some cases. And with the job marker as tough as it is, you don't won't to burn bridges before they're even built.

And adults don't protest like that. That's the point some of us are making. These "adults" are going to have a tough time dealing in the real world. Do you advocate them turning their backs on their bosses if they don't like the assignment or process?

Adults do protest like this and worst. And when did Betsy Devos become their boss. You are twisting facts to suit your purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what it is that they fear so much about this woman.

They fear the stupidity. They fear people who have lived a life in isolated wealth and privilege dismantling public education for the purpose of using federal tax dollars to pad the pockets of her cronys. After all, it's the model that worked so well for her brother.

[Anonymous]

Any idiot can stage a protest based on visceral reactions. It takes maturity to learn to debate in an educated manner. Look at all the students who did NOT protest: those are the ones with wisdom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Right, they should be so grateful to have her over their own objections. Who are they to have an opinion about their own commencement ceremony? Or education?

So, you condone rude behavior then. Hope you don’t teach your children how to be rude and disrespectful.

Not PP, but I do NOT teach my children that politeness overrides everything else.

Personally, I think they should have all stood up and walked out of the room when she began speaking.

I am sure your children’ teachers think your kids are simply a delight.

These are college students with free will and independent judgement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

I totally agree. And, good for the president of the college to say something to the students about their behavior.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any idiot can stage a protest based on visceral reactions. It takes maturity to learn to debate in an educated manner. Look at all the students who did NOT protest: those are the ones with wisdom.

DeVos wasn't there for the purpose of engaging in a meaningful debate on higher education or any other policy. She doesn't care what these students think. Why is this so hard for you?

[Anonymous]

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HA! Just like the "good old days of slavery" ..right? You Trumpsters are something else.

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Hyperbole at its finest.
You appear to have a chip on your shoulder.

And?
Appearances can be deceiving - as evidenced by the absurd appointment of Betsy DeVos to be Secretary of Education in the first place.
Oh sure she looks like an intelligent, observant, and competent person but this trick said guns were needed in schools to ward off friggin bears...
And this trick thought that HBCU's are examples of school choice - not realizing that HBCU's were, in fact, established out of necessity because whites refused to let blacks to use the same water fountain as them so no way they'd let blacks sit in the same classroom.
And sitting Republican senators have received $115,000 from Betsy DeVos herself, and more than $950,000 from the full DeVos clan since 1980. In the past two election cycles alone, her family has donated $8.3 million to Republican Party super PACs.
So yeah it appears she was chosen as Secretary of Education for her experience/ingenuity but considering this trick has never worked in education but just happened to have given a shit-load of money to the GOP, like I said...appearances can be deceiving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Right, they should be so grateful to have her over their own objections. Who are they to have an opinion about their own commencement ceremony? Or education?

So, you condone rude behavior then. Hope you don’t teach your children how to be rude and disrespectful.

Not PP, but I do NOT teach my children that politeness overrides everything else.

Personally, I think they should have all stood up and walked out of the room when she began speaking.

+1000. If the college President was too stupid to not shuck and jive then that was his fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Right, they should be so grateful to have her over their own objections. Who are they to have an opinion about their own commencement ceremony? Or education?

So, you condone rude behavior then. Hope you don’t teach your children how to be rude and disrespectful.

Not PP, but I do NOT teach my children that politeness overrides everything else.

Personally, I think they should have all stood up and walked out of the room when she began speaking.

+1000. If the college President was too stupid to not shuck and jive then that was his fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree the school should not have invited her.

But once they did invite her, the students should have sat quietly, hands in laps. They can show disagreement through lack of clapping.

No offense, but it isn't patronizing to tell these adults HOW to protest? You want them to protest in the least objectionable and disruptive manner. That kind of defeats the purpose of the protest. And for the record, not all the students booed. Some QUIETLY turned their backs.

I saw the video. Sure sounded noisy and rude to me. Some may have quietly turned their banks, but others did not. Since there's no way to know which ones were belligerent, the entire school will look bad to some emoloyers, and it will work against these students. In some cases. And with the job marker as tough as it is, you don't won't to burn bridges before they're even built.

And adults don't protest like that. That's the point some of us are making. These "adults" are going to have a tough time dealing in the real world. Do you advocate them turning their backs on their bosses if they don't like the assignment or process?

Adults do protest like this and worst. And when did Betsy Devos become their boss. You are twisting facts to suit your purpose.

I agree with pp. By accepting and condoning behavior such as this in what SHOULD BE a dignified ceremony, we end up with people beating up others on airplanes, passengers assaulting flight attendants and crew when their flight is canceled, teens body slamming elderly people at the swimming pool, and other hateful and aggressive acts. Why should we be surprised that these entitled young adults grow up to expect the world to conform to their wishes?
Some people could use some lessons on kindness and appropriate behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any idiot can stage a protest based on visceral reactions. It takes maturity to learn to debate in an educated manner. Look at all the students who did NOT protest: those are the ones with wisdom.

Bitch please. All of a sudden civility exists? Trump is not civil. You get what you give. He created this environment, now live with it.

These are the students I want to hire. Those who can actually think for themselves. I don't need robots to work for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree the school should not have invited her.

But once they did invite her, the students should have sat quietly, hands in laps. They can show disagreement through lack of clapping.

No offense, but it isn't patronizing to tell these adults HOW to protest? You want them to protest in the least objectionable and disruptive manner. That kind of defeats the purpose of the protest. And for the record, not all the students booed. Some QUIETLY turned their backs.

I saw the video. Sure sounded noisy and rude to me. Some may have quietly turned their banks, but others did not. Since there's no way to know which ones were belligerent, the entire school will look bad to some emoloyers, and it will work against these students. In some cases. And with the job marker as tough as it is, you don't won't to burn bridges before they're even built.

And adults don't protest like that. That's the point some of us are making. These "adults" are going to have a tough time dealing in the real world. Do you advocate them turning their backs on their bosses if they don't like the assignment or process?

Adults do protest like this and worst. And when did Betsy Devos become their boss. You are twisting facts to suit your purpose.

I agree with pp. By accepting and condoning behavior such as this in what SHOULD BE a dignified ceremony, we end up with people beating up others on airplanes, passengers assaulting flight attendants and crew when their flight is canceled, teens body slamming elderly people at the swimming pool, and other hateful and aggressive acts. Why should we be surprised that these entitled young adults grow up to expect the world to conform to their wishes?
Some people could use some lessons on kindness and appropriate behavior.

Keep reaching...keep reaching...I'm sure if you keep digging up your ass scraping around in all that bullshit eventually you'll find a turd of truth to justify your audacious argument - so keep reaching!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the students' behavior is rude and stupid - and indicative of the entitled attitude permeating among collegr kids (and many on the left, in general).

This was at a Historically-Black College, and the government has invested in them for decades. In fact, Trump just recently signed an agreement giving them more clout. Why bite the hand that feeds you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/trump-moves-program-on-historically-black-colleges-into-the-white-house/2017/02/28/64acd09c-fe04-11e6-8f41-ea6ed597e4ca_story.html?utm_term=.37b6d9e2d5df

Right, they should be so grateful to have her over their own objections. Who are they to have an opinion about their own commencement ceremony? Or education?

+1

They are supposed to be mature educated and open minded individuals who embrace diverse views. I guess their education failed them.

Maybe they know better than to sit through bull shit.

+1. Seems to me that they were smart enough to know that they were being used as pawns in a political pandering game. They were smart enough to know they were being fed BS and not chocolate pudding.

The school invited DeVos. Perhaps they should be complaining to the school administrators who are the ones using them "as pawns in a political pandering game"?

They DID complain to them!!! Their complaints were disregarded. Hence, the protests at the ceremony.

So they didn't get what they want, so instead of accepting that you don't get everything you ask for in life, they throw a tantrum like pre-teen children and ruin the ceremony for themselves and anyone else in attendance. Real mature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any idiot can stage a protest based on visceral reactions. It takes maturity to learn to debate in an educated manner. Look at all the students who did NOT protest: those are the ones with wisdom.

Bitch please. All of a sudden civility exists? Trump is not civil. You get what you give. He created this environment, now live with it.

These are the students I want to hire. Those who can actually think for themselves. I don't need robots to work for me.

LMAO. Money on you not actually running any business or have any meaningful direct reports in your current job. Business is largely about orderly process, even creativity has context. I don't need robots to work for me either, but I do need people who can follow orders when given and know where and when to complain. There's a time and a place for everything.