DeVos' first commencement address - It did not go well.

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Anonymous wrote:Never ceases to amaze me how popular the "Blacks Behaving Badly" threads are. Folks come from all over to chime in on ungrateful coloreds who don't show proper respect for their empathetic and understanding white beneficiaries. Oh that poor poor woman (figuratively poor not literally - she's friggin loaded that's how she got the job as Education Secretary).

Can we have a moment of silence for all the poor poor white people who've been treated so badly by blacks over all these years please?

Thanks for the reminder to stay away from these threads. You are a freaking idiot. What's the matter, was your kid one of the graduates? Probably so, hahaha.

If my kid were one of the graduates, I would be proud. Means they have principles and the strength to act on them.

Exactly.

Privileged classes and manipulative types hide behind accusations of "barbarism" and "impolite" behavior to disenfranchise people who have been legitimately abused and exploited by their behavior. Betsy DeVos has no right to be Secretary of Education. She can go make her millions and brainwash her grandchildren on her own time and her own dime. The nation's public education system is too important and too burdened to tolerate her bullshit.[/quote]

Yep, burdened by all the lower socioeconomic students who drain the system. That is correct.

That is so cute.
Poor people drain the education system.
I tell you what - you put that on a bumper sticker and drive around with that bullshit on your car and let's see how many miles you make it before somebody runs your ridiculous ass off the road.

Np. Better to protect yourself with lefty stickers. I know I do!

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Anonymous wrote:"They didn't destroy their commencement. I'm sure they had a great time protesting it."

I feel bad for all the students who didn't put on a show and had to put up with their classmates rowdy behavior. Have any of them been interviewed? No? Why not?

Why wasn't your mother interviewed about it or Fire Marshall Bill?
What kind of ridiculous question is that?
If you feel so strongly, go down to the school, round up all the unrowdy negroes you can find and ask them how in the heck they felt about it.

Why is it when blacks are feeling especially hateful toward whites they refer to themselves as coloreds and negroes (and add in derogatory adjectives such as rowdy and uppity)? How does denigrating oneself with outdated, and now prejudicial words, help bridge the divide?

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Anonymous wrote:"They didn't destroy their commencement. I'm sure they had a great time protesting it."

I feel bad for all the students who didn't put on a show and had to put up with their classmates rowdy behavior. Have any of them been interviewed? No? Why not?

Why wasn't your mother interviewed about it or Fire Marshall Bill?
What kind of ridiculous question is that?
If you feel so strongly, go down to the school, round up all the unrowdy negroes you can find and ask them how in the heck they felt about it.

Why is it when blacks are feeling especially hateful toward whites they refer to themselves as coloreds and negroes (and add in derogatory adjectives such as rowdy and uppity)? How does denigrating oneself with outdated, and now prejudicial words, help bridge the divide?

Aren't you an expert on blacks, black culture, the black community, and the black experience in America?
You should be able to answer your own question seeing how you're so knowledgeable.

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Anonymous wrote:"They didn't destroy their commencement. I'm sure they had a great time protesting it."

I feel bad for all the students who didn't put on a show and had to put up with their classmates rowdy behavior. Have any of them been interviewed? No? Why not?

Why wasn't your mother interviewed about it or Fire Marshall Bill?
What kind of ridiculous question is that?
If you feel so strongly, go down to the school, round up all the unrowdy negroes you can find and ask them how in the heck they felt about it.

Why is it when blacks are feeling especially hateful toward whites they refer to themselves as coloreds and negroes (and add in derogatory adjectives such as rowdy and uppity)? How does denigrating oneself with outdated, and now prejudicial words, help bridge the divide?

In other words, you are ASSUMING I am black, you don't get sarcasm and you assume I am being hateful towards whites as opposed being hateful towards plain old bald faced ignorance.
Ok, then

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I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

TBH, you should probably do your research. The students did have a clear idea and they had been clearly articulating WHY they did not want her from the time she was invited. As a PP pointed out, this issue did not arise at the commencement. It had been percolating for weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

She is vapid, singularly unaccomplished intellectually and academically, and otherwise unworthy of respect.

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Anonymous wrote:Just another college on the list that I will not employ from. I don't want this in my business.

That's funny. I have 2 BCU graduates on my team. Both are energetic and very smart. They are also both willing to say what is on their mind when it is for the good of the team. I would rather have those type of people working with me then those just go along to get along.

But does HUD really count as an employer or a jobs program?

It's not a government agency a$$hole. But it is people like you that the students were taking a stand about.

Acting out is not "taking a stand".

Well, it actually is "taking a stand". Except there is a place and a time for acting out or taking a stand. Hey, maybe acting out and taking a stand is a common practice at commencements of black historical colleges - I've never attended one in person so I wouldn't know. For all we know, this is an example of expected behavior. We are in fact oppressing them by projecting our expectations of proper behavior at a commencement to this community of students. It is also likely very common for people to use profanity when they have a disagreement. This is their life experience, their way of expression.

I for one am glad that we get a glimpse into this sub culture of America. We all have so much to learn and discover about each other.

To the previous PP, I look forward to a day, when we can all come together and I too will get to call you an a$$hole and bask in the rich camaraderie of cultural exchange.

What exactly are black historical colleges troll?

Something he didn't "attend in person."

Right, because I value diversity, and "black historical colleges" are not diverse, either in skin color, culture, or ideas.

Look Betsy, there is no such thing as "black historical colleges"
And if you ever visited or attended or knew how to spell or phrase HBCU you would know what in all hell you were talking about.

Yea, yea, I know, but you know what I meant. And to affirm that it was a mistake, I quoted my mistake so as to explicitly acknowledge it. Focus on the substance, not the superficial.

If there was substance I would have focused on it.

Right... the lack of diversity at historically black colleges is not substantial.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

So your take on it is that most of these college graduates who earned degrees in business administration and criminal justice and elementary education and liberal studies and psychology and sociology were nonetheless a bunch of impulsive idiots who had so little depth of reasoning that despite their education they had no clear idea why they were booing her and despite being college graduates they were too stupid to be able to recognize that THEIR DAY was being pimped out to some half-wit insult to education all to benefit her image and the university's pocket. Hmmm...you may be right, there's no way those dumb college kids could have figured out what was really going on and even if they did they shouldn't have interrupted that those that charade of a ceremony they should have sat back and smiled and just let some twit have THEIR DAY and watch the university sell and exploit THEIR DAY to an Administration that has absolutely no regard and no respect for them. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

So your take on it is that most of these college graduates who earned degrees in business administration and criminal justice and elementary education and liberal studies and psychology and sociology were nonetheless a bunch of impulsive idiots who had so little depth of reasoning that despite their education they had no clear idea why they were booing her and despite being college graduates they were too stupid to be able to recognize that THEIR DAY was being pimped out to some half-wit insult to education all to benefit her image and the university's pocket. Hmmm...you may be right, there's no way those dumb college kids could have figured out what was really going on and even if they did they shouldn't have interrupted that those that charade of a ceremony they should have sat back and smiled and just let some twit have THEIR DAY and watch the university sell and exploit THEIR DAY to an Administration that has absolutely no regard and no respect for them. Right?

--slow clap--

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I guess it's testament to the education these men and women received if they couldn't put aside their pre-conceived notions and assumptions for even five minutes. Instead of showing an invited guest even an iota of respect, they decided she was undeserving of even the most basic common courtesy. DeVos might be unqualified and clearly not knowledgeable of the role of HBCUs in America, but my goodness, by the reception she got you would have thought the keynote speaker was from the KKK. All this talk about "it was their day" doesn't mean that people have carte blanche to disrespect others.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling most of those students had no clear idea why they were booing her. It's one thing to hear something she said and then boo, but they clearly didn't even want to listen because they were booing at her mere presence. I guess listening is soooo 1994. It was a very rude and disrespectful response to an invited guest, and I don't understand how anything DeVos has said or done warranted such a vitriolic response.

She is vapid, singularly unaccomplished intellectually and academically, and otherwise unworthy of respect.

Soooooo, in 2017 it's okay to disrespect dumb people?

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OPEN LOVE LETTER TO BETHUNE-COOKMAN 2017 GRADUATES FROM BLACK FACULTY

More than 200 Black professors penned the beautiful open letter below to the courageous 2017 graduates of Bethune-Cookman College. The students defied the presence and rhetoric of 45’s Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, as she attempted to complete her speech. The graduates turned their backs, literally, on DeVos as she offered her remarks to the chagrin of the college’s administration gathered on the stage. Their act, their courage, in the face of assumed power is the true definition of Unapologetic. In response to their conviction, Dr. Yaba Blay (?Dan Blue Endowed Chair in Political Science at North Carolina Central University) organized the collective effort, and Drs. Camika Royal (Assistant Professor of Urban Education at Loyola University Maryland) and Treva B. Lindsey (Associate Professor of Women’s Gender, and Sexuality Studies at Ohio State University) penned this powerful sendoff below.

https://cassiuslife.com/2922/bethune-cookman-graduates-open-letter/

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I think it was a bad decision to have her speak. She isn't respected, nor is she a scholar in the field.

However, the students were very rude, too. I don't know much about this college to be honest - how active the student body is with regard to protest. But students should have held it together on that day. They may have made waves, but waves break at the shore and are soon forgotten.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it was a bad decision to have her speak. She isn't respected, nor is she a scholar in the field.

However, the students were very rude, too. I don't know much about this college to be honest - how active the student body is with regard to protest. But students should have held it together on that day. They may have made waves, but waves break at the shore and are soon forgotten.

So you say but scholars disagree with your sentiments.

https://cassiuslife.com/2922/bethune-cookman-graduates-open-letter/