Christmas with the Trumps: The beginning of the Kardashian-esque constant social media?

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I do believe the left has suddenly decided "slut shaming" is perfectly acceptable. As long as the subject is a conservative, of course.

Carry on, hypocrites!

I'm Liberal and I do think her attire is inappropriate and too slutty for an Orthodox Jew or a conservative woman (politics aside) in general. But I'm honestly struggling to find out why this is hypocrisy?? What Democratic leading lady has been accused of wearing highly inappropriate attire in public? I'm not even touching Melania's mini-skirt.

Well, let's see. Do you have a daughter? Are you one of those mothers who tells her daughter she can wear whatever she wants, no matter how revealing,
because "girl power"? If so, and you are criticizing Ivanka and/or Melania Trump for their clothing choices, then you are a hypocrite. Pretty simple.

Now reverse that. Do you have a daughter? Are you one of those mothers who tells her daughter that she cannot wear anything. And, just because they make it in your size doesn't mean it should be worn. Do you tell your daughter to wear appropriate clothes for the occasion. If so, you are a hypocrite if you see nothing wrong with the photo. FTR, and before you ask, no I don't think women can wear anything , but I also don't think they should be raped simply because they have on such clothing.

[Anonymous]

Classic conservative craziness: shifting gears and trying to launch an argument by going off on a tangent.

Beyoncé is a celebrity. She is not an elected official. She is not part of the President's family.
She is not a role model for anyone.

The Obama girls are far younger than Ivanka. Ivanka is an old married lady FFS...a mother of three. The Obama girls are teenagers. Nobody in the Obama family would post a picture in a black silk negligee. It's indefensible, and you know it.

If you think it's so normal, then why not post a selfie in your own black silk negligee on FB? Be sure to use #negligeepride. Maybe you'll start a trend?[/quote

It doesn't matter. fact is Obamas said she was a great role model for THEIR girls

So if they can overlook her sexy performances and half-naked attire, then certainly we can do the same with Ivanka.

You're slut-shaming Ivanka much in the same way I paraded Beyonce's half naked ass on this forum. Furthermore, whom you idolize and choose as "role models" for your own kids says everything about who you are as a parent, yes?

How often were Hillary fans pissed b/c people ragged on her pantsuit while overlooking her intellect? same with Ivanka - She's certainly no dummy. So shouldn't we admire her intellect instead of focusing on her nighttime attire? Or is that too hard for Libs to do now that Daddy's president?

Hypocrisy rules this thread - and this forum.

btw - I'm a registered Dem. I, however, refuse to be brainwashed by the idiots on either side.

[Anonymous]

Once again, as with the Jet Blue debacle, we are squabbling like plebes about crap and absurdity instead of focusing on sh*t that actually matters to 99% of the population of the US - just the way Trump - and Ivanka - like it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting, and incredibly hypocritical (as usual), that the liberals are outraged by Ivanka's choice of clothing when all we hear from these same people is how girls and women should be able to wear whatever they want, whenever they want, to include running around naked if they so desire.

I do believe the left has suddenly decided "slut shaming" is perfectly acceptable. As long as the subject is a conservative, of course.

Carry on, hypocrites!

You're the one calling her a slut.

not either PP but . . . You don't have to call someone a slut to slut shame someone. The disparaging comments on this thread are indeed in reference to her outfit. Whether it's a nightgown or a negligee or some "house dress," there's no need to call her out on it.

It's hard to undo stupid, eh, PP?

But why not? She represents America as First Lady-by-default and conservatives sure had a field day with Michelle in her lovely official portrait. You want hypocrisy, there it is.

I love it!

This isn't about women's roles and society and how we're belittled on a daily basis; it's about a battle between Conservatives and Liberals.

I didn't vote for either candidate this time around, as neither appealed to me. However, while Hillary wasn't my first choice as a Democratic candidate, I defended her. I may not have liked her classic pantsuit style, but it was HER style. And underneath that suit was an intellectual.

I'll do the same for Ivanka. I didn't vote for her father, but this woman has done nothing wrong. Yet Libs are up in arms simply bc she's Trump's daughter- and now b/c she's wearing a somewhat revealing outfit.

And by your tone, PP, I am fairly confident that you're playing the same game - that it's OK to slam Ivanka b/c poor Michelle was scrutinized for baring her arms.

So . . . you're no better!

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop acting like we are criticizing her outfit. She's not wearing an outfit. She's wearing a freaking black silk negligee. It's not a dress. It's meant to be an alluring nightie.

Stop normalizing this bizarre behavior. You have never seen a friend or relative or even a celebrity (aside from a Kardashian) post a family picture in a black silk negligee. It's weird. It's not appropriate for social media.

And Beyonce is a great role model for the Obama girls. I think we know who the true hypocrites are.

AND... mic drop.

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Um, no. No mic drop, pp.

You can't equate a celebrity's on stage attire with the President-Elect's daughter (who will play a role in his administration) and her bizarre attire in a family picture she posted online. Apples and watermelons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop acting like we are criticizing her outfit. She's not wearing an outfit. She's wearing a freaking black silk negligee. It's not a dress. It's meant to be an alluring nightie.

Stop normalizing this bizarre behavior. You have never seen a friend or relative or even a celebrity (aside from a Kardashian) post a family picture in a black silk negligee. It's weird. It's not appropriate for social media.

And Beyonce is a great role model for the Obama girls. I think we know who the true hypocrites are.

AND... mic drop.

A performer vs. the de facto First Lady?!?!

I guess she Melania is your baseline, then no amount of objectification is too much. How about this - I'll take Beyoncé as an entertainer and pop star if I can not have Ivanka as my First Lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop acting like we are criticizing her outfit. She's not wearing an outfit. She's wearing a freaking black silk negligee. It's not a dress. It's meant to be an alluring nightie.

Stop normalizing this bizarre behavior. You have never seen a friend or relative or even a celebrity (aside from a Kardashian) post a family picture in a black silk negligee. It's weird. It's not appropriate for social media.

And Beyonce is a great role model for the Obama girls. I think we know who the true hypocrites are.

Classic conservative craziness: shifting gears and trying to launch an argument by going off on a tangent.

Beyoncé is a celebrity. She is not an elected official. She is not part of the President's family.
She is not a role model for anyone.

The Obama girls are far younger than Ivanka. Ivanka is an old married lady FFS...a mother of three. The Obama girls are teenagers. Nobody in the Obama family would post a picture in a black silk negligee. It's indefensible, and you know it.

If you think it's so normal, then why not post a selfie in your own black silk negligee on FB? Be sure to use #negligeepride. Maybe you'll start a trend?

Wow, have you missed the point. Michelle Obama said, "In addition to being just a beautiful young woman, she's been a role model and a powerful presence for young girls and women all around the world.” She added that she was “very proud of her. Very proud of the woman that she is. The role model she provides for so many women.” And President Obama said, "Beyoncé could not be a better role model for my girls."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop acting like we are criticizing her outfit. She's not wearing an outfit. She's wearing a freaking black silk negligee. It's not a dress. It's meant to be an alluring nightie.

Stop normalizing this bizarre behavior. You have never seen a friend or relative or even a celebrity (aside from a Kardashian) post a family picture in a black silk negligee. It's weird. It's not appropriate for social media.

And Beyonce is a great role model for the Obama girls. I think we know who the true hypocrites are.

Classic conservative craziness: shifting gears and trying to launch an argument by going off on a tangent.

Beyoncé is a celebrity. She is not an elected official. She is not part of the President's family.
She is not a role model for anyone.

The Obama girls are far younger than Ivanka. Ivanka is an old married lady FFS...a mother of three. The Obama girls are teenagers. Nobody in the Obama family would post a picture in a black silk negligee. It's indefensible, and you know it.

If you think it's so normal, then why not post a selfie in your own black silk negligee on FB? Be sure to use #negligeepride. Maybe you'll start a trend?

Wow, have you missed the point. Michelle Obama said, "In addition to being just a beautiful young woman, she's been a role model and a powerful presence for young girls and women all around the world.” She added that she was “very proud of her. Very proud of the woman that she is. The role model she provides for so many women.” And President Obama said, "Beyoncé could not be a better role model for my girls."

I couldn't care less what the Obamas think about a certain celebrity. Couldn't care less what a singer wears to perform.

We are talking about something entirely different. We are talking about a future public servant (thanks to her crazy father's bizarre approach to politics...you know, the monarchy approach?) posting a family picture in a black silk negligee. It's nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Um, no. No mic drop, pp.

You can't equate a celebrity's on stage attire with the President-Elect's daughter (who will play a role in his administration) and her bizarre attire in a family picture she posted online. Apples and watermelons.

And you can't equate Ivanka Trump's nightdress, or slip dress, or whatever it was (which was nothing shocking in the least, and certainly not what any normal person would consider "bizarre") with the poses and costuming of Beyoncé. You simply can't. And to call Beyoncé a "role model" for young girls, as both Obamas did? Come ON.

Unless you're a nun, there is no way you can condemn what Ivanka Trump had on - a strappy dress/nightgown which showed nothing - and then turn around and say this "role model" to the President and First Lady is dressed in a way you'd feel comfortable having your daughter emulate. No way at all.

[Anonymous]

Like plebes and low lifes we squabble instead of thinking about what our real problems are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Um, no. No mic drop, pp.

You can't equate a celebrity's on stage attire with the President-Elect's daughter (who will play a role in his administration) and her bizarre attire in a family picture she posted online. Apples and watermelons.

And you can't equate Ivanka Trump's nightdress, or slip dress, or whatever it was (which was nothing shocking in the least, and certainly not what any normal person would consider "bizarre") with the poses and costuming of Beyoncé. You simply can't. And to call Beyoncé a "role model" for young girls, as both Obamas did? Come ON.

Unless you're a nun, there is no way you can condemn what Ivanka Trump had on - a strappy dress/nightgown which showed nothing - and then turn around and say this "role model" to the President and First Lady is dressed in a way you'd feel comfortable having your daughter emulate. No way at all.

A costume worn by a celebrity in a performance is not the same thing as a public servant. Different standards for people with different roles. Duh.

And you know it's weird. Otherwise you could link to others who post family holiday photos of themselves with their kids in a negligee. Their poor nanny (who was likely the one who took the photo).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like plebes and low lifes we squabble instead of thinking about what our real problems are.

Not really, pp. I'll be in my office tomorrow focusing on social justice advocacy. I'm good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like plebes and low lifes we squabble instead of thinking about what our real problems are.

No, I think the intelligent among us are just at loose ends trying to figure out what the hell we can do about Pres. Asterisk.

I can't wait till about, oh, six months in when the Republicans reveal evidence that Donald cheated. And then we're stuck with that dung heap until the treasonous Republicans decide to do something about it.

[Anonymous]

All this desperate scrambling to defend the utterly weird, tacky, and inapproriate behavior of Ivanka. Face it: she's embarrassing.