Crazy to move from BCC cluster ES to Janney/Deal/Wilson for schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't underestimate how great it will be when your middle-schooler can get himself/herself to some after-school activities, orthodontist appts., etc., via bus/Metro, without relying on someone driving them there.

I really don't think NW DC is generally more walkable or urban than inner MoCo. Sure there are are areas in either that are more or less walkable but it's no more likely that an orthodontist requires a car for kid going to BCC than one going to Wilson.

OP here. If an area doesn't have sidewalks in my book it isn't walkable. 95% of NW DC has sidewalks. Cross western venue and maybe it's 50% depending on how you define inner suburbs. Our neighborhood thankfully has sidewalks even Edgemoor is 50/50 and E. Bethesda is like 20%. Being close to downtown Bethesda has more advantages than NW DC with activities like 2 movie theatres, Roundhouse theatre, Imagination Stge, Art Works, and we have a Y very close by. But, right now I just don't feel like the trade offs between that, the pace of development, and over crowded schools seems like it's worth it.

And to answer some other PPs, I actually grew up in a city going to inner city schools during the 80s. I saw a kid get stabbed first hand in the 6th grade. In HS we had crips that sold crack cocaine. I saw many kids make bad choices, myself included on occasion. But thankfully we still had tracking back then so the kids that were motivated to learn could and the ones that weren't didn't have to. I would also like to say in case anyone has any ideas, that my family is interracial and DH is black. For me it is not about race but about having a stable community and a quality school. Diversity was actually one of the reasons we picked our ES. Moving to a NW DC ES would actually be a step down in diversity for us. But at some point it just feels like basic physics and common sense need to take over.

OP, have you considered what it might be like for your child at a school like Janney where he's one of the few black kids in his cohort (of course, he is biracial, but biracial kids are often perceived as AA)? Janney is undoubtedly an excellent school in many respects, but there are other really good schools that that also feed to Deal and Wilson that have a bit more diversity and where your son won't be a "lonely only."

Of course, this is not to say that issues related to be an only at Janney are inevitable--but perhaps before moving forward, it may not hurt to consider and visit some other schools.

-a biracial parent at another Deal/Wilson feeder

Our black kids go to Janney and have never complained of impostor syndrome or anything. They have made great friends and are happy.

OP here. I have to admit that it is a concern. There are actually very few WASP families at our MCPS. Probably half of the "white" students are jewish, which I think is an advantage and makes the school culturally more diverse for us than if there were more WASPs. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but I have seen groups of Janney kids on the Metro for field trips and it just surprises me how white they are, both in terms of numbers but also culturally. If I could estimate, it will be like 16 WASPs, perhaps 4 jewish students (I don't know), and 2 black students. Why are so many of them blond?

I am sure if I looked up the school data it would be similar to this, with probably surprisingly very few asian families as opposed to what we have at our MCPS ES. The potential alienation does cause a bit of a concern for me and to me this is a big benefit of the BCC cluster: there is no one dominant race/culture. There is just lots of everybody. The problem is that there is also too much of everybody, along with the other issues.

Reading all of the comments, I feel my suspicions are confirmed that DCPS can be just as good if not better, but there are also potentially higher risks of bad outcomes which is true of any urban school system. Socially and diversity wise it would also be a disadvantage, which I already know.

We need to fix up our house and landscaping anyway, so we'll proceed with that. In the meantime, I need to do a bit more research and hopefully I can tour Janney or other NWDC ESs at some point. I'm not sure how much they allow that, as they don't allow any visitors at our ES but who knows.

Janney is actually really internationally diverse, especially in the lowest grades.
I have 3 kids there and my youngest is in 1st grade.
Both this year and last she is one of of only a few Americans in her class and the cohorts are totally different kids (they mix them up each year).
So just based on kids we know 2/5 classes are 80% foreign-born (for lack of a better term). And they don't purposefully put the international students together
so I'd bet the overall percentage in this grade is 50%.
(which in my book is great and a huge benefit of growing up in DC as a 3rd generation American kid).

Yeah, OPs comment was rather surprising given the huge number of international kids at Janney. When my DD was in K at Janney, she faked knowing a second language because so many of her classmates were bilingual or even trilingual.

But OP cares about skin color, not actual diversity. A kid from Peru vs. a kid from the UK vs. a kid from South Korea? None is black, so they must all be the same.

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OP, you seem to be poised to make major life decisions based on really flimsy evidence. How can you possibly gauge the demographics of Janney or any other DC elementary from what you think you see on the Metro with field trips -- that's just weird!

Starting point, you should tour all the schools, both in DCPS and of course Westland and BCC for comparison if you were to stay put.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't underestimate how great it will be when your middle-schooler can get himself/herself to some after-school activities, orthodontist appts., etc., via bus/Metro, without relying on someone driving them there.

I really don't think NW DC is generally more walkable or urban than inner MoCo. Sure there are are areas in either that are more or less walkable but it's no more likely that an orthodontist requires a car for kid going to BCC than one going to Wilson.

OP here. If an area doesn't have sidewalks in my book it isn't walkable. 95% of NW DC has sidewalks. Cross western venue and maybe it's 50% depending on how you define inner suburbs. Our neighborhood thankfully has sidewalks even Edgemoor is 50/50 and E. Bethesda is like 20%. Being close to downtown Bethesda has more advantages than NW DC with activities like 2 movie theatres, Roundhouse theatre, Imagination Stge, Art Works, and we have a Y very close by. But, right now I just don't feel like the trade offs between that, the pace of development, and over crowded schools seems like it's worth it.

And to answer some other PPs, I actually grew up in a city going to inner city schools during the 80s. I saw a kid get stabbed first hand in the 6th grade. In HS we had crips that sold crack cocaine. I saw many kids make bad choices, myself included on occasion. But thankfully we still had tracking back then so the kids that were motivated to learn could and the ones that weren't didn't have to. I would also like to say in case anyone has any ideas, that my family is interracial and DH is black. For me it is not about race but about having a stable community and a quality school. Diversity was actually one of the reasons we picked our ES. Moving to a NW DC ES would actually be a step down in diversity for us. But at some point it just feels like basic physics and common sense need to take over.

OP, have you considered what it might be like for your child at a school like Janney where he's one of the few black kids in his cohort (of course, he is biracial, but biracial kids are often perceived as AA)? Janney is undoubtedly an excellent school in many respects, but there are other really good schools that that also feed to Deal and Wilson that have a bit more diversity and where your son won't be a "lonely only."

Of course, this is not to say that issues related to be an only at Janney are inevitable--but perhaps before moving forward, it may not hurt to consider and visit some other schools.

-a biracial parent at another Deal/Wilson feeder

Our black kids go to Janney and have never complained of impostor syndrome or anything. They have made great friends and are happy.

OP here. I have to admit that it is a concern. There are actually very few WASP families at our MCPS. Probably half of the "white" students are jewish, which I think is an advantage and makes the school culturally more diverse for us than if there were more WASPs. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but I have seen groups of Janney kids on the Metro for field trips and it just surprises me how white they are, both in terms of numbers but also culturally. If I could estimate, it will be like 16 WASPs, perhaps 4 jewish students (I don't know), and 2 black students. Why are so many of them blond?

I am sure if I looked up the school data it would be similar to this, with probably surprisingly very few asian families as opposed to what we have at our MCPS ES. The potential alienation does cause a bit of a concern for me and to me this is a big benefit of the BCC cluster: there is no one dominant race/culture. There is just lots of everybody. The problem is that there is also too much of everybody, along with the other issues.

Reading all of the comments, I feel my suspicions are confirmed that DCPS can be just as good if not better, but there are also potentially higher risks of bad outcomes which is true of any urban school system. Socially and diversity wise it would also be a disadvantage, which I already know.

We need to fix up our house and landscaping anyway, so we'll proceed with that. In the meantime, I need to do a bit more research and hopefully I can tour Janney or other NWDC ESs at some point. I'm not sure how much they allow that, as they don't allow any visitors at our ES but who knows.

All of the school shave open house tours scheduled throughout the year. Check their web sites.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem to be poised to make major life decisions based on really flimsy evidence. How can you possibly gauge the demographics of Janney or any other DC elementary from what you think you see on the Metro with field trips -- that's just weird!

Starting point, you should tour all the schools, both in DCPS and of course Westland and BCC for comparison if you were to stay put.

Yes, and also OP, sorry if I missed it but did you explain why you are looking at Janney versus any of the other Deal feeders? Notwithstanding the international/linguistic diversity of Janney that others have explained, it is certainly one of the whitest DC schools you could possibly select and it's well known for that. If more diversity is desired (defined by you in this thread as fewer blondes, ahem) you will find much more of it at the other Deal feeders like Hearst, Murch, Shepherd, Bancroft. Lafayette is pretty similar to Janney I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem to be poised to make major life decisions based on really flimsy evidence. How can you possibly gauge the demographics of Janney or any other DC elementary from what you think you see on the Metro with field trips -- that's just weird!

Starting point, you should tour all the schools, both in DCPS and of course Westland and BCC for comparison if you were to stay put.

Yes, and also OP, sorry if I missed it but did you explain why you are looking at Janney versus any of the other Deal feeders? Notwithstanding the international/linguistic diversity of Janney that others have explained, it is certainly one of the whitest DC schools you could possibly select and it's well known for that. If more diversity is desired (defined by you in this thread as fewer blondes, ahem) you will find much more of it at the other Deal feeders like Hearst, Murch, Shepherd, Bancroft. Lafayette is pretty similar to Janney I guess.

Frankly. If avoiding blondes is OP's priority, perhaps somewhere in Africa might be a better fit?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you seem to be poised to make major life decisions based on really flimsy evidence. How can you possibly gauge the demographics of Janney or any other DC elementary from what you think you see on the Metro with field trips -- that's just weird!

Starting point, you should tour all the schools, both in DCPS and of course Westland and BCC for comparison if you were to stay put.

Yes, and also OP, sorry if I missed it but did you explain why you are looking at Janney versus any of the other Deal feeders? Notwithstanding the international/linguistic diversity of Janney that others have explained, it is certainly one of the whitest DC schools you could possibly select and it's well known for that. If more diversity is desired (defined by you in this thread as fewer blondes, ahem) you will find much more of it at the other Deal feeders like Hearst, Murch, Shepherd, Bancroft. Lafayette is pretty similar to Janney I guess.

Frankly. If avoiding blondes is OP's priority, perhaps somewhere in Africa might be a better fit?

Janney is listed at 71% white. ok?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't underestimate how great it will be when your middle-schooler can get himself/herself to some after-school activities, orthodontist appts., etc., via bus/Metro, without relying on someone driving them there.

I really don't think NW DC is generally more walkable or urban than inner MoCo. Sure there are are areas in either that are more or less walkable but it's no more likely that an orthodontist requires a car for kid going to BCC than one going to Wilson.

OP here. If an area doesn't have sidewalks in my book it isn't walkable. 95% of NW DC has sidewalks. Cross western venue and maybe it's 50% depending on how you define inner suburbs. Our neighborhood thankfully has sidewalks even Edgemoor is 50/50 and E. Bethesda is like 20%. Being close to downtown Bethesda has more advantages than NW DC with activities like 2 movie theatres, Roundhouse theatre, Imagination Stge, Art Works, and we have a Y very close by. But, right now I just don't feel like the trade offs between that, the pace of development, and over crowded schools seems like it's worth it.

And to answer some other PPs, I actually grew up in a city going to inner city schools during the 80s. I saw a kid get stabbed first hand in the 6th grade. In HS we had crips that sold crack cocaine. I saw many kids make bad choices, myself included on occasion. But thankfully we still had tracking back then so the kids that were motivated to learn could and the ones that weren't didn't have to. I would also like to say in case anyone has any ideas, that my family is interracial and DH is black. For me it is not about race but about having a stable community and a quality school. Diversity was actually one of the reasons we picked our ES. Moving to a NW DC ES would actually be a step down in diversity for us. But at some point it just feels like basic physics and common sense need to take over.

OP, have you considered what it might be like for your child at a school like Janney where he's one of the few black kids in his cohort (of course, he is biracial, but biracial kids are often perceived as AA)? Janney is undoubtedly an excellent school in many respects, but there are other really good schools that that also feed to Deal and Wilson that have a bit more diversity and where your son won't be a "lonely only."

Of course, this is not to say that issues related to be an only at Janney are inevitable--but perhaps before moving forward, it may not hurt to consider and visit some other schools.

-a biracial parent at another Deal/Wilson feeder

Our black kids go to Janney and have never complained of impostor syndrome or anything. They have made great friends and are happy.

OP here. I have to admit that it is a concern. There are actually very few WASP families at our MCPS. Probably half of the "white" students are jewish, which I think is an advantage and makes the school culturally more diverse for us than if there were more WASPs. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but I have seen groups of Janney kids on the Metro for field trips and it just surprises me how white they are, both in terms of numbers but also culturally. If I could estimate, it will be like 16 WASPs, perhaps 4 jewish students (I don't know), and 2 black students. Why are so many of them blond?

I am sure if I looked up the school data it would be similar to this, with probably surprisingly very few asian families as opposed to what we have at our MCPS ES. The potential alienation does cause a bit of a concern for me and to me this is a big benefit of the BCC cluster: there is no one dominant race/culture. There is just lots of everybody. The problem is that there is also too much of everybody, along with the other issues.

Reading all of the comments, I feel my suspicions are confirmed that DCPS can be just as good if not better, but there are also potentially higher risks of bad outcomes which is true of any urban school system. Socially and diversity wise it would also be a disadvantage, which I already know.

We need to fix up our house and landscaping anyway, so we'll proceed with that. In the meantime, I need to do a bit more research and hopefully I can tour Janney or other NWDC ESs at some point. I'm not sure how much they allow that, as they don't allow any visitors at our ES but who knows.

Janney is actually really internationally diverse, especially in the lowest grades.
I have 3 kids there and my youngest is in 1st grade.
Both this year and last she is one of of only a few Americans in her class and the cohorts are totally different kids (they mix them up each year).
So just based on kids we know 2/5 classes are 80% foreign-born (for lack of a better term). And they don't purposefully put the international students together
so I'd bet the overall percentage in this grade is 50%.
(which in my book is great and a huge benefit of growing up in DC as a 3rd generation American kid).

Yeah, OPs comment was rather surprising given the huge number of international kids at Janney. When my DD was in K at Janney, she faked knowing a second language because so many of her classmates were bilingual or even trilingual.

But OP cares about skin color, not actual diversity. A kid from Peru vs. a kid from the UK vs. a kid from South Korea? None is black, so they must all be the same.

A kid from the UK is not as likely to be racially profiled yet alike gunned down by police. Stop trying to imply that a white UK kid or even white Hispanic kid adds diversity to a school. When they are all looked at, they are seen as one safe majority.

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^^^I wouldn't put it quite as PP did, since I think that international diversity is certainly valuable, but being a visible minority in school is still a different animal.

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I left MoCo for DC for the schools. We were IB for Churchill and the elementary schools were overcrowded with zero aides and zero common sense. I feel for you, particularly in the ES zoned for BCC which is even more overcrowded than Potomac.

I moved to DC and am very happy with the public charter school options. Our DC is at Basis, but we looked at lots of other schools (elementary charters, middle school charters, K-8 charters, and 5-12 charters) and there wasn't even one that I thought was worse than a 10/10 ES in MoCo. Kids may not "test" as high, but in every school, there was more attention to other benefits, like foreign language, social/emotional, communication, outdoor time (gardening, recess, field trips). And, at the same time, every school has more diversity and exposure to different people. (We were in Potomac and it felt like the whole world was rich and white.)

Basis is known for its academics, but it also offers Latin, Ancient History, Geography, Art, Drama, and Music -- all in 5th grade (beyond English, Math, and Science). I just didn't see this at MoCo. DC is also testing higher in DC -- always tested okay in MoCo. I think that the DC testing is skewed (or MoCo testing is skewed) and you actually can end up with a much better education in DC. The results may not seem like that, because you are dealing with SN, ESL and other issues integrated into the schools, but relatively, students in DC are doing great.

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Anonymous wrote:I left MoCo for DC for the schools. We were IB for Churchill and the elementary schools were overcrowded with zero aides and zero common sense. I feel for you, particularly in the ES zoned for BCC which is even more overcrowded than Potomac.

I moved to DC and am very happy with the public charter school options. Our DC is at Basis, but we looked at lots of other schools (elementary charters, middle school charters, K-8 charters, and 5-12 charters) and there wasn't even one that I thought was worse than a 10/10 ES in MoCo. Kids may not "test" as high, but in every school, there was more attention to other benefits, like foreign language, social/emotional, communication, outdoor time (gardening, recess, field trips). And, at the same time, every school has more diversity and exposure to different people. (We were in Potomac and it felt like the whole world was rich and white.)

Basis is known for its academics, but it also offers Latin, Ancient History, Geography, Art, Drama, and Music -- all in 5th grade (beyond English, Math, and Science). I just didn't see this at MoCo. DC is also testing higher in DC -- always tested okay in MoCo. I think that the DC testing is skewed (or MoCo testing is skewed) and you actually can end up with a much better education in DC. The results may not seem like that, because you are dealing with SN, ESL and other issues integrated into the schools, but relatively, students in DC are doing great.

PP, I agree with you about Basis. We have friends there who are happy. We also have friends at Latin who are happy, and we're expecting to be very happy with DCI. The problem for the OP is that as you know, she can't rely on getting into any of these schools. It's all pure luck. If she wants a sure thing she is likely to be better off staying in her cluster. MS & HS are where the rubber meets the road and moving to DC in the hope of getting into a great charter school is a gamble. For those of us who are already here, we've got years and options to maneuver, but selling a house in MoCo in a desirable school cluster to take a chance on the lottery? If you're truly in love with DC and want to live in the District for multiple reasons it makes sense, but if it's strictly for schools? I just don't see it as a sane choice. (I'm not even bothering with Wilson because nobody in their right mind would leave MoCo for Wilson.)

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Anonymous wrote:Don't underestimate how great it will be when your middle-schooler can get himself/herself to some after-school activities, orthodontist appts., etc., via bus/Metro, without relying on someone driving them there.

I really don't think NW DC is generally more walkable or urban than inner MoCo. Sure there are are areas in either that are more or less walkable but it's no more likely that an orthodontist requires a car for kid going to BCC than one going to Wilson.

OP here. If an area doesn't have sidewalks in my book it isn't walkable. 95% of NW DC has sidewalks. Cross western venue and maybe it's 50% depending on how you define inner suburbs. Our neighborhood thankfully has sidewalks even Edgemoor is 50/50 and E. Bethesda is like 20%. Being close to downtown Bethesda has more advantages than NW DC with activities like 2 movie theatres, Roundhouse theatre, Imagination Stge, Art Works, and we have a Y very close by. But, right now I just don't feel like the trade offs between that, the pace of development, and over crowded schools seems like it's worth it.

And to answer some other PPs, I actually grew up in a city going to inner city schools during the 80s. I saw a kid get stabbed first hand in the 6th grade. In HS we had crips that sold crack cocaine. I saw many kids make bad choices, myself included on occasion. But thankfully we still had tracking back then so the kids that were motivated to learn could and the ones that weren't didn't have to. I would also like to say in case anyone has any ideas, that my family is interracial and DH is black. For me it is not about race but about having a stable community and a quality school. Diversity was actually one of the reasons we picked our ES. Moving to a NW DC ES would actually be a step down in diversity for us. But at some point it just feels like basic physics and common sense need to take over.

OP, have you considered what it might be like for your child at a school like Janney where he's one of the few black kids in his cohort (of course, he is biracial, but biracial kids are often perceived as AA)? Janney is undoubtedly an excellent school in many respects, but there are other really good schools that that also feed to Deal and Wilson that have a bit more diversity and where your son won't be a "lonely only."

Of course, this is not to say that issues related to be an only at Janney are inevitable--but perhaps before moving forward, it may not hurt to consider and visit some other schools.

-a biracial parent at another Deal/Wilson feeder

Our black kids go to Janney and have never complained of impostor syndrome or anything. They have made great friends and are happy.

OP here. I have to admit that it is a concern. There are actually very few WASP families at our MCPS. Probably half of the "white" students are jewish, which I think is an advantage and makes the school culturally more diverse for us than if there were more WASPs. Hopefully this doesn't offend anyone, but I have seen groups of Janney kids on the Metro for field trips and it just surprises me how white they are, both in terms of numbers but also culturally. If I could estimate, it will be like 16 WASPs, perhaps 4 jewish students (I don't know), and 2 black students. Why are so many of them blond?

I am sure if I looked up the school data it would be similar to this, with probably surprisingly very few asian families as opposed to what we have at our MCPS ES. The potential alienation does cause a bit of a concern for me and to me this is a big benefit of the BCC cluster: there is no one dominant race/culture. There is just lots of everybody. The problem is that there is also too much of everybody, along with the other issues.

Reading all of the comments, I feel my suspicions are confirmed that DCPS can be just as good if not better, but there are also potentially higher risks of bad outcomes which is true of any urban school system. Socially and diversity wise it would also be a disadvantage, which I already know.

We need to fix up our house and landscaping anyway, so we'll proceed with that. In the meantime, I need to do a bit more research and hopefully I can tour Janney or other NWDC ESs at some point. I'm not sure how much they allow that, as they don't allow any visitors at our ES but who knows.

Janney is actually really internationally diverse, especially in the lowest grades.
I have 3 kids there and my youngest is in 1st grade.
Both this year and last she is one of of only a few Americans in her class and the cohorts are totally different kids (they mix them up each year).
So just based on kids we know 2/5 classes are 80% foreign-born (for lack of a better term). And they don't purposefully put the international students together
so I'd bet the overall percentage in this grade is 50%.
(which in my book is great and a huge benefit of growing up in DC as a 3rd generation American kid).

Yeah, OPs comment was rather surprising given the huge number of international kids at Janney. When my DD was in K at Janney, she faked knowing a second language because so many of her classmates were bilingual or even trilingual.

But OP cares about skin color, not actual diversity. A kid from Peru vs. a kid from the UK vs. a kid from South Korea? None is black, so they must all be the same.

A kid from the UK is not as likely to be racially profiled yet alike gunned down by police. Stop trying to imply that a white UK kid or even white Hispanic kid adds diversity to a school. When they are all looked at, they are seen as one safe majority.

Truly amazing how ignorant you are. Sorry for your sad life.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^I wouldn't put it quite as PP did, since I think that international diversity is certainly valuable, but being a visible minority in school is still a different animal.

Indeed, international diversity is real diversity, and to say otherwise betrays a narrow-minded perspective solely focused on race (although even in racial terms, Janney is still more diverse than the vast majority of DCPS schools, which have way more than 70% of one race). That said, I also agree that potentially being the only child of one race in a class can feel problematic. I would hope it wouldn't be at a school like Janney, where the kids are raised to be inclusive, but I understand it is a concern.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^I wouldn't put it quite as PP did, since I think that international diversity is certainly valuable, but being a visible minority in school is still a different animal.

Indeed, international diversity is real diversity, and to say otherwise betrays a narrow-minded perspective solely focused on race (although even in racial terms, Janney is still more diverse than the vast majority of DCPS schools, which have way more than 70% of one race). That said, I also agree that potentially being the only child of one race in a class can feel problematic. I would hope it wouldn't be at a school like Janney, where the kids are raised to be inclusive, but I understand it is a concern.

Indeed, Janney's biggest problem is its sense of self-importance. Nobody regards Janney so highly as Janney moms. In fact there are families at NCS that aren't a quarter as boastful as Janney moms. There must be an insecurity factor at work that makes these women just yammer on and on and on about Janney as if it mattered to anyone else in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^I wouldn't put it quite as PP did, since I think that international diversity is certainly valuable, but being a visible minority in school is still a different animal.

Indeed, international diversity is real diversity, and to say otherwise betrays a narrow-minded perspective solely focused on race (although even in racial terms, Janney is still more diverse than the vast majority of DCPS schools, which have way more than 70% of one race). That said, I also agree that potentially being the only child of one race in a class can feel problematic. I would hope it wouldn't be at a school like Janney, where the kids are raised to be inclusive, but I understand it is a concern.

Indeed, Janney's biggest problem is its sense of self-importance. Nobody regards Janney so highly as Janney moms. In fact there are families at NCS that aren't a quarter as boastful as Janney moms. There must be an insecurity factor at work that makes these women just yammer on and on and on about Janney as if it mattered to anyone else in the world.

PP here, and I am not a Janney mom nor did I do any yammering or boasting about the school. I would have said the things I said about any other Upper NW elementary as well. I do have several friends who have kids at Janney, and none of them are boastful, although they do love their school. Pray tell, on what data are you basing your condemnation? Anonymous DCUM trolls and lore? It sounds like there is "an insecurity factor at work" that makes you jump on my post to repeat one of the oldest and most tired stereotypes about Janney moms on this board.

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Janney moms are the Kim Kardashians of DCUM. You couldn't pay them to shut up.