Crazy to move from BCC cluster ES to Janney/Deal/Wilson for schools?

Anonymous
I have always defended Janney etc from people that thought MCPS were the be all and end all. I wpuld not tell someone they need to move to MoCo for the schools but by the same token I would not move to DC for the schools. For example I don't believe that Wilson is a noticeably better alternative than BCC with its IB diploma option. I think the rumors of MCPS demise are exaggerated.
Anonymous
OP, did you grow up in a small town or suburb that was mostly white and middle class? I ask because it will affect your perceptions of "what public education is supposed to be." Neither Montgomery County nor DC will be able to replicate that experience.
Anonymous
Yes, you're crazy. Or high.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, did you grow up in a small town or suburb that was mostly white and middle class? I ask because it will affect your perceptions of "what public education is supposed to be." Neither Montgomery County nor DC will be able to replicate that experience.


+1
Anonymous
The special needs population is statistically around 10%. Your kid will be around black and brown kids at Deal and Wilson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The special needs population is statistically around 10%. Your kid will be around black and brown kids at Deal and Wilson.


By the time OP's 6 yr old child would enter Deal in 5 years, that child would be around very, very few black and brown kids. They're aging out of the pipeline (leftover from the OOB days), plus far fewer get to go in the first place now due to boundary changes under Gray. Someone here will now say "Sheperd Park, and Crestwood!" but the truth is that both of those EOTP neighborhoods grandfathered and gerrymandered into Deal are shifting from brown to white, as we speak. So in 5-8 years, they'll still be EOTP but they'll be sending grandfathered and gerrymandered white students to Deal.

Plus, Wilson's boundaries shrunk significantly, changing the demographics of the HS. Plus, the areas way EOTP still inbounds for Wilson are also getting less brown / more white — because the entire city is, and that is a fact. Ward 7 and 8 are not … but they're not going to Wilson, not now nor when OP's kid might in 8 years.

Note that all of this ^^ I'm saying is neither good nor bad. But it is reality.
Anonymous
We recently enrolled in Janney. We were surprised at the small class size. We heard the horror stories and were concerned. I think all K and 1st grade classes are less than 22. The large 4th grade has ~ 25.

Because most everyone is high SES, the teachers do not need to deal with the challenges of other DC schools that have a significant Title 1 population (children coming to school who did not have breakfast, not coming to school b/c challenges getting there etc.)

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am someone who made this choice -- moved from the Westland feeder neighborhood to a deal feeder. I am thrilled I did. Our school has smaller class sizes, isn't under thread of tons of new construction and, frankly, the PARCC scores beat the pants off Westbrook/BE/Wood Acres etc.

I think Wilson may be the weakest part of this chain, I think it can be highly successful for many kids. My kids are also young, so we have lots of time to worry about HS.

There will be a lot of posters who will come one here and blindly state that DCPS can never get near MCPS-- but they are remembering two systems from 10+ years ago. Things have changed considerably on both sides of Western Ave.


Wait, no this is US!!! We rented for 10+ years in Burning Tree ES and then moved into feeder/Deal/Wilson. My kids are older and have 2 at Wilson now. We haven't looked back. I grew up in Bethesda and my parents plus siblings (with kids) all live in Whitman or BCC area. I would say that my kids are having almost the exact same education as my nieces and nephews. Yes, Wilson is a bit rougher around the edges but my kids are doing just fine.


They also have a better shot at selective colleges...

-- PP, your doppleganger.


I went to an Ivy and the kids from Wilson and other DCPS struggled compared to the kids from DC privates and suburban publics. It was very obvious they were not used to the stronger peer groups.
Anonymous
Do not underestimate how annoying it will be to deal with the apathy and incompetence of DCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am someone who made this choice -- moved from the Westland feeder neighborhood to a deal feeder. I am thrilled I did. Our school has smaller class sizes, isn't under thread of tons of new construction and, frankly, the PARCC scores beat the pants off Westbrook/BE/Wood Acres etc.

I think Wilson may be the weakest part of this chain, I think it can be highly successful for many kids. My kids are also young, so we have lots of time to worry about HS.

There will be a lot of posters who will come one here and blindly state that DCPS can never get near MCPS-- but they are remembering two systems from 10+ years ago. Things have changed considerably on both sides of Western Ave.


Wait, no this is US!!! We rented for 10+ years in Burning Tree ES and then moved into feeder/Deal/Wilson. My kids are older and have 2 at Wilson now. We haven't looked back. I grew up in Bethesda and my parents plus siblings (with kids) all live in Whitman or BCC area. I would say that my kids are having almost the exact same education as my nieces and nephews. Yes, Wilson is a bit rougher around the edges but my kids are doing just fine.


They also have a better shot at selective colleges...

-- PP, your doppleganger.


I went to an Ivy and the kids from Wilson and other DCPS struggled compared to the kids from DC privates and suburban publics. It was very obvious they were not used to the stronger peer groups.


And when was that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am someone who made this choice -- moved from the Westland feeder neighborhood to a deal feeder. I am thrilled I did. Our school has smaller class sizes, isn't under thread of tons of new construction and, frankly, the PARCC scores beat the pants off Westbrook/BE/Wood Acres etc.

I think Wilson may be the weakest part of this chain, I think it can be highly successful for many kids. My kids are also young, so we have lots of time to worry about HS.

There will be a lot of posters who will come one here and blindly state that DCPS can never get near MCPS-- but they are remembering two systems from 10+ years ago. Things have changed considerably on both sides of Western Ave.


Wait, no this is US!!! We rented for 10+ years in Burning Tree ES and then moved into feeder/Deal/Wilson. My kids are older and have 2 at Wilson now. We haven't looked back. I grew up in Bethesda and my parents plus siblings (with kids) all live in Whitman or BCC area. I would say that my kids are having almost the exact same education as my nieces and nephews. Yes, Wilson is a bit rougher around the edges but my kids are doing just fine.


They also have a better shot at selective colleges...

-- PP, your doppleganger.


I went to an Ivy and the kids from Wilson and other DCPS struggled compared to the kids from DC privates and suburban publics. It was very obvious they were not used to the stronger peer groups.


you happened to encounter enough DCPS and DC-area private grads all in one place to come to this conclusion? OK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am someone who made this choice -- moved from the Westland feeder neighborhood to a deal feeder. I am thrilled I did. Our school has smaller class sizes, isn't under thread of tons of new construction and, frankly, the PARCC scores beat the pants off Westbrook/BE/Wood Acres etc.

I think Wilson may be the weakest part of this chain, I think it can be highly successful for many kids. My kids are also young, so we have lots of time to worry about HS.

There will be a lot of posters who will come one here and blindly state that DCPS can never get near MCPS-- but they are remembering two systems from 10+ years ago. Things have changed considerably on both sides of Western Ave.


Wait, no this is US!!! We rented for 10+ years in Burning Tree ES and then moved into feeder/Deal/Wilson. My kids are older and have 2 at Wilson now. We haven't looked back. I grew up in Bethesda and my parents plus siblings (with kids) all live in Whitman or BCC area. I would say that my kids are having almost the exact same education as my nieces and nephews. Yes, Wilson is a bit rougher around the edges but my kids are doing just fine.


They also have a better shot at selective colleges...

-- PP, your doppleganger.


I went to an Ivy and the kids from Wilson and other DCPS struggled compared to the kids from DC privates and suburban publics. It was very obvious they were not used to the stronger peer groups.


you happened to encounter enough DCPS and DC-area private grads all in one place to come to this conclusion? OK.


Anonymous
Don't underestimate how great it will be when your middle-schooler can get himself/herself to some after-school activities, orthodontist appts., etc., via bus/Metro, without relying on someone driving them there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:1st grade DC at a BCC cluster ES. The overcrowding is bordering on negligence and it will only get worse as new development keeps coming. Went to the Open House on Columbus Day and it was chaos. The teacher is doing her best, but there are too many issues for her to handle.


Worth considering! We're at Janney; K with lead teacher and assistant, 20 kids. BTS night was great - so impressed by the teacher and her presentation. Yes, it's large but they're even adding a fifth 5th grade class next year to accommodate the bump coming with the current 4th graders (learned from their giant class experiment last year).
Anonymous
OP, who knows what schools will look like by the time your 1st grader reaches high school, but here is some current data from the US News and World Report High School Ranking data (flawed also, but has different data than Great Schools) that was posted on a thread a while back. I think BCC dominates Wilson currently, but in a decade who knows?

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/...chools/wilson-high-school-4649
Wilson: national rank 815, #2 in Washington DC
Total enrollment 1696
Total minority enrollment 75%
Total economically disadvantaged 100% [I think this may be because Wilson is Title 1, so automatically shows up as 100% economically disadvantaged?)
College readiness index: 47
AP tested: 80
AP passed: 45
Math proficiency: 69
English proficiency: 70

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/...a-chevy-chase-high-school-9137
BCC: unranked in 2016, national rank 161 in 2015
Total enrollment: 1872
Total minority enrollment: 43%
Total economically disadvantaged: 11%
College readiness index: 68
AP tested: 79
AP passed: 81
Math proficiency: 92
English proficiency: 91

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