What screams *INSECURE FRUMP* to you?

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Anonymous wrote:Well these styles don't necessarily mean your a "frump," but are very difficult for any but the beautiful people to pull off without looking a tad matronly:

- short-sleeve button up shirts (I think only ll bean makes these anymore so we are all probably safe)
- yes, mid calf straight or relaxed capris (not all cropped/ankle length pants)
- trend alert: the wide legged, slightly short ("summer length") pants that are everywhere now. Impossible for all over BMI 18.
- wild ethnic prints (if they are Chicos, not your actual heritage)
- big baggy fisherman sweaters (I like this in theory, but again, only look great on a J Crew model, but not on anyone else)
- Mid-length skirts (Again, like in theory, but in reality...)

These do not look frumpy:http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/womens-collared-button-up-tops

Most of them do. So many plaid tents!

All a matter of styling.

The plaid tent with on-trend jeans and booties is not frumpy. Shirt trends have veered to looser fits over the past few years. However, the plaid tent with sensible khakis and Clarks is frumy.

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Anonymous wrote:I would look at these women as not being shallow. Who cares what people wear. It is not important. People should be concerned with being kind to others and not judging other people based on what they wear. Look into your own souls. I hope you like what you see.

Bless your heart.

Clothing is a form of communication. You are saying something about yourself when you get dressed. It's a message that you are telling people.

Frumpy clothes = "Don't look at me. I am not worth your attention. "

Stripper heels = "Look at my boobs. The only thing I deserve attention for is my sexuality. I have no worth otherwise."

There has to be a middle ground somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the OP means "someone who no longer cares" as opposed to "insecure".

Regardless, this is mean. People stop caring about their appearance for a lot of reasons and they are rarely positive (exhaustion, loss of self esteem, feeling invisible etc)

OR.......some people wear insecure frump clothes to blend in, so they won't be noticed. They think they don't matter, so they don't.

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Anonymous wrote:God bless them, life is hard, but DC is so full of this stuff I have to comment:

- brown, so much brown. You think it all matches itself, but it doesn't.
- backpacks.... There is never, ever an excuse for a grown woman to wear a backpack. Ever. I would literally prefer if you used a target bag as a handbag.
- merrills
- big droopy breasts. If they are cylindrical without a bra, wear a bra.
- the greasy low ponytail. Dry shampoo or a shower, it's not hard.
- baseball cap worn with a ponytail without pulling the ponytail through the hole in the back.
- too tight clothes that you are constantly pulling over your belly to adjust. You gained weight? So what, please
Just go buy a pair of pants that fit properly. It's okay, reAlly.
- drop earrings that are clearly homemade or bought At a farmers market.
- one cool or edgy item (it's usually a handbag) that is clearly borrowed or a gift because it's the only nice part of your outfit. Or the only part of your outfit that isn't hideous. If your parents or sister want to give you a freebee from Nordstrom, but a good bra, not a cool handbag, it doesn't pull your look together, it makes all your other clothes look like the shit they are.
- women with size 11 feet wearing open toed shoes. If your toes are the length of my fingers, please don't parade them around
- VPL. Again, it's okay to gain weight. But if you do, buy new undies.

Flame away, but women of DC, you have options in life. Never, ever, choose loose fit capris.

You are spot on! Thank you for making me laugh and I it was good for me to hear I need to get rid of the ponytail(only wear it sometimes). Thank goodness I don't wear size 11 shoes.

And the above two posts are perfect illustrations of what screams insecure, mean-girl bitch.

My main offense seems to be a backpack purse, but if that makes me a frump, so be it. Rather be a frump than like either of you two. You are both foul. And while your at it, please post pictures of yourselves. No? Okay, shut up.

Who knew the backpack comment would cause such a shitstorm!? You must be very proud of your fashion choices to defend them so strongly! I'm sure you were hot stuff in 1995 with your kate spade backpack (or Prada knockoff 1999?) maybe even a Vera Bradley fan? Good for you for insisting you don't care about anything as stupid as fashion [though me thinks thou does protest too much]. There are plenty of people with good fashion taste who are bad people and plenty of bad people with bad fashion sense. You are an angry person who carries a backpack. I am a fun, nice person who likes to make jokes about women who carry backpacks or as you call it "backpack purse".

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Anonymous wrote:God bless them, life is hard, but DC is so full of this stuff I have to comment:

- brown, so much brown. You think it all matches itself, but it doesn't.
- backpacks.... There is never, ever an excuse for a grown woman to wear a backpack. Ever. I would literally prefer if you used a target bag as a handbag.
- merrills
- big droopy breasts. If they are cylindrical without a bra, wear a bra.
- the greasy low ponytail. Dry shampoo or a shower, it's not hard.
- baseball cap worn with a ponytail without pulling the ponytail through the hole in the back.
- too tight clothes that you are constantly pulling over your belly to adjust. You gained weight? So what, please
Just go buy a pair of pants that fit properly. It's okay, reAlly.
- drop earrings that are clearly homemade or bought At a farmers market.
- one cool or edgy item (it's usually a handbag) that is clearly borrowed or a gift because it's the only nice part of your outfit. Or the only part of your outfit that isn't hideous. If your parents or sister want to give you a freebee from Nordstrom, but a good bra, not a cool handbag, it doesn't pull your look together, it makes all your other clothes look like the shit they are.
- women with size 11 feet wearing open toed shoes. If your toes are the length of my fingers, please don't parade them around
- VPL. Again, it's okay to gain weight. But if you do, buy new undies.

Flame away, but women of DC, you have options in life. Never, ever, choose loose fit capris.

You are spot on! Thank you for making me laugh and I it was good for me to hear I need to get rid of the ponytail(only wear it sometimes). Thank goodness I don't wear size 11 shoes.

And the above two posts are perfect illustrations of what screams insecure, mean-girl bitch.

My main offense seems to be a backpack purse, but if that makes me a frump, so be it. Rather be a frump than like either of you two. You are both foul. And while your at it, please post pictures of yourselves. No? Okay, shut up.

Who knew the backpack comment would cause such a shitstorm!? You must be very proud of your fashion choices to defend them so strongly! I'm sure you were hot stuff in 1995 with your kate spade backpack (or Prada knockoff 1999?) maybe even a Vera Bradley fan? Good for you for insisting you don't care about anything as stupid as fashion [though me thinks thou does protest too much]. There are plenty of people with good fashion taste who are bad people and plenty of bad people with bad fashion sense. You are an angry person who carries a backpack. I am a fun, nice person who likes to make jokes about women who carry backpacks or as you call it "backpack purse".

maybe she carries a $3K Nancy Gonzalez crocodile backpack

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Anonymous wrote:Well these styles don't necessarily mean your a "frump," but are very difficult for any but the beautiful people to pull off without looking a tad matronly:

- short-sleeve button up shirts (I think only ll bean makes these anymore so we are all probably safe)
- yes, mid calf straight or relaxed capris (not all cropped/ankle length pants)
- trend alert: the wide legged, slightly short ("summer length") pants that are everywhere now. Impossible for all over BMI 18.
- wild ethnic prints (if they are Chicos, not your actual heritage)
- big baggy fisherman sweaters (I like this in theory, but again, only look great on a J Crew model, but not on anyone else)
- Mid-length skirts (Again, like in theory, but in reality...)

These do not look frumpy:http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/womens-collared-button-up-tops

Most of them do. So many plaid tents!

All a matter of styling.

The plaid tent with on-trend jeans and booties is not frumpy. Shirt trends have veered to looser fits over the past few years. However, the plaid tent with sensible khakis and Clarks is frumy.

It still looks like shit. Even on my stick-think students. I like the jeans, I like the booties, boots, hate the shirts.

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For God's sake, if you need something as large as a backpack, buy a large shopper.

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I use a backpack (Land's end) because I bike around a lot and have to take files to and from work. I know it is not a great fashion choice, but I don't care. If someone else wants to make fun of it, that's their issue, I'm not going to waste time worrying about it.

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Anonymous wrote:For God's sake, if you need something as large as a backpack, buy a large shopper.

As you age, sometimes you have to do what your body tells you to. In this case my body and my doctor are telling me that I need to distribute the weight I carry and that it is best if I use a backpack and not carry the whole load on one side of my body. Not everything is about esthetics.

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women with size 11 feet wearing open toed shoes. If your toes are the length of my fingers, please don't parade them around

You are really immature. I wear a size 6, but why should someone with a larger shoe size have to have hot feet?

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid thread. Frumpy is not usually associated with insecure.

+1. I'm not in favor of people going out in public in their workout gear unless they are working out, but those would be frumps. Insecure people would be the women carrying handbags with logos on them, Tory Burch shoes, crazy amounts of makeup, and an unfriendly demeanor.

You must not live close-in.

There are 4 Pilates studios, an orangetheory, revolve spinning, 4 yoga studios, two major gym chains, cross fit, a rowing boutique gym...all within a 4 block radius of my house. Everyone is walking around in workout gear. Usually--you pop into Whole Foods, Traders or South block juice shop after a workout.

If you workout everyday--it's common. We are very active and take kids to parks and fields and it would be idiotic to shower and dress up as opposed to going there in active wear. Sidelines of kids sporting events also have lots of gym/active wear.

I WAH so it saves time to save my shower for end of day. If I WOH -yea wouldn't stay in gym gear. No plans to impress some SAH yentas...

Rather keep a tight, fit body than worry about somebody catching me in workout gear.

I live right in Dupont. I workout. I get dressed in my workout clothes, go workout, and then, get this: go home and shower because it's gross not to. It's not idiotic to get dressed like a normal person when you leave the house (pants, shirts, casual is fine, doesn't have to be business dress). I do it every day. I refuse to be a slob. Just because you overpaid for your tights doesn't mean they aren't pajamas/workout clothes.

+1 if I'm not going to shower at home I shower at the gym. Spending the day in workout clothes after working out is foul.

I always wonder about this too. I swim at Wilson pool and workout at home, so I never wear "athleisure" outside of the home. Are all these women I see at Whole Foods with their sweaty hair and workout clothes on all rank and stinky? Are they gonna stay that way all day? Or are they just "rocking" that look and just happen to have sweaty hair?

Sometimes I go to the grocery store after the gym. Then I go home and shower, and get on with my day.

The gym is 1/2 block to Whole Foods which is one block to my house. I pop in for my salad and whatever groceries I need and then walk home. WTF would I walk home shower and then walk back to WFs? I WAH full-time so it maximizes my time. I often throw on dry workout clothes and then shower after the kids come home from school to save time to get my work hours in. OR---if it is 97 degrees (like this week) and I have to stand outside at a 90 minute soccer practice I am showering when I come home from that.

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid thread. Frumpy is not usually associated with insecure.

+1. I'm not in favor of people going out in public in their workout gear unless they are working out, but those would be frumps. Insecure people would be the women carrying handbags with logos on them, Tory Burch shoes, crazy amounts of makeup, and an unfriendly demeanor.

You must not live close-in.

There are 4 Pilates studios, an orangetheory, revolve spinning, 4 yoga studios, two major gym chains, cross fit, a rowing boutique gym...all within a 4 block radius of my house. Everyone is walking around in workout gear. Usually--you pop into Whole Foods, Traders or South block juice shop after a workout.

If you workout everyday--it's common. We are very active and take kids to parks and fields and it would be idiotic to shower and dress up as opposed to going there in active wear. Sidelines of kids sporting events also have lots of gym/active wear.

I WAH so it saves time to save my shower for end of day. If I WOH -yea wouldn't stay in gym gear. No plans to impress some SAH yentas...

Rather keep a tight, fit body than worry about somebody catching me in workout gear.

I live right in Dupont. I workout. I get dressed in my workout clothes, go workout, and then, get this: go home and shower because it's gross not to. It's not idiotic to get dressed like a normal person when you leave the house (pants, shirts, casual is fine, doesn't have to be business dress). I do it every day. I refuse to be a slob. Just because you overpaid for your tights doesn't mean they aren't pajamas/workout clothes.

+1 if I'm not going to shower at home I shower at the gym. Spending the day in workout clothes after working out is foul.

I always wonder about this too. I swim at Wilson pool and workout at home, so I never wear "athleisure" outside of the home. Are all these women I see at Whole Foods with their sweaty hair and workout clothes on all rank and stinky? Are they gonna stay that way all day? Or are they just "rocking" that look and just happen to have sweaty hair?

Sometimes I go to the grocery store after the gym. Then I go home and shower, and get on with my day.

The gym is 1/2 block to Whole Foods which is one block to my house. I pop in for my salad and whatever groceries I need and then walk home. WTF would I walk home shower and then walk back to WFs? I WAH full-time so it maximizes my time. I often throw on dry workout clothes and then shower after the kids come home from school to save time to get my work hours in. OR---if it is 97 degrees (like this week) and I have to stand outside at a 90 minute soccer practice I am showering when I come home from that.

Everyone in my neighborhood does this. Everyone walks home from the million exercise studios---so they will stop off at Traders or Whole Foods or Starbucks on their way back home. Most often, people bring a dry shirt, or in winter you have a big coat on over it. It's the norm.

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Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid thread. Frumpy is not usually associated with insecure.

+1. I'm not in favor of people going out in public in their workout gear unless they are working out, but those would be frumps. Insecure people would be the women carrying handbags with logos on them, Tory Burch shoes, crazy amounts of makeup, and an unfriendly demeanor.

You must not live close-in.

There are 4 Pilates studios, an orangetheory, revolve spinning, 4 yoga studios, two major gym chains, cross fit, a rowing boutique gym...all within a 4 block radius of my house. Everyone is walking around in workout gear. Usually--you pop into Whole Foods, Traders or South block juice shop after a workout.

If you workout everyday--it's common. We are very active and take kids to parks and fields and it would be idiotic to shower and dress up as opposed to going there in active wear. Sidelines of kids sporting events also have lots of gym/active wear.

I WAH so it saves time to save my shower for end of day. If I WOH -yea wouldn't stay in gym gear. No plans to impress some SAH yentas...

Rather keep a tight, fit body than worry about somebody catching me in workout gear.

I live right in Dupont. I workout. I get dressed in my workout clothes, go workout, and then, get this: go home and shower because it's gross not to. It's not idiotic to get dressed like a normal person when you leave the house (pants, shirts, casual is fine, doesn't have to be business dress). I do it every day. I refuse to be a slob. Just because you overpaid for your tights doesn't mean they aren't pajamas/workout clothes.

+1 if I'm not going to shower at home I shower at the gym. Spending the day in workout clothes after working out is foul.

I always wonder about this too. I swim at Wilson pool and workout at home, so I never wear "athleisure" outside of the home. Are all these women I see at Whole Foods with their sweaty hair and workout clothes on all rank and stinky? Are they gonna stay that way all day? Or are they just "rocking" that look and just happen to have sweaty hair?

Sometimes I go to the grocery store after the gym. Then I go home and shower, and get on with my day.

The gym is 1/2 block to Whole Foods which is one block to my house. I pop in for my salad and whatever groceries I need and then walk home. WTF would I walk home shower and then walk back to WFs? I WAH full-time so it maximizes my time. I often throw on dry workout clothes and then shower after the kids come home from school to save time to get my work hours in. OR---if it is 97 degrees (like this week) and I have to stand outside at a 90 minute soccer practice I am showering when I come home from that.

Everyone in my neighborhood does this. Everyone walks home from the million exercise studios---so they will stop off at Traders or Whole Foods or Starbucks on their way back home. Most often, people bring a dry shirt, or in winter you have a big coat on over it. It's the norm.

We are not talking about people who run a quick errand after the gym. We are talking about the majority of women I see walking around dupont who are in their workout clothes all day. Most actually look like they haven't nor plan to workout that day. It's weird dining somewhere sitting next to slobs who haven't bothered to get dressed for the day. Seriously, you eat at Le Diplomat in your tights? I'm a SAH and I don't even understand SAHMs who dress like that all day. Put on some damn pants for the park, you're plenty capable of running and climbing around in normal clothes at the park. My favorite is women who wear their tights with their huge diamonds. Looks so ridiculous to be prancing around in your underwear with fancy jewelry and full makeup. It takes zero more effort to put on street clothes as opposed to workout clothes and makes you look like you don't aspire to be a couch potato.

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Really, fisherman sweaters are frumpy? I think they are cute casual. Check out this girl. You think this is frumpy?

No, I said big, baggy sweaters are very hard to pull off. Fisherman in particular. That one is obviously shrunken.

And incidentally, also said I like them in theory: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mzlZsycNfiY/UiT7deKLPnI/AAAAAAABCIY/K17hFLQKPFk/s1600/23.+marina+rust+maine+cable+knit+sweater.jpg Problem is this would look ridiculous on the typical average build.