Have you read "Framed" in the LA Times

[Anonymous]

Out of all the batsh*t crazy nonsense in this story, my favorite part is when Easter (Ava Everheart) is on the stand and manages to work into her testimony that she went to the most prestigious law school (Boalt Hall) out of everyone in the room. Like, how narcissistic do you have to be to have your whole life and livelihood on the line, but you are worried that the judge went to Hastings?

[Anonymous]

Every Jill I've ever met, and I mean ever - has been a harpy, controlling, nut job.

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Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Easters clearly got what was coming to them, and Kelli Peters definitely had a few harrowing months of WTH, but is it really $5.7 million worth of suffering? She may ever see that money and I understand she needs some income since her husband is ill, but that's a whole lot of money considering she was never actually arrested.

I also agree that she may have benefited from white privilege. At the time, nobody had any idea who planted the drugs. They originally thought it was the crazy guy across the street, who was Asian.

Juries do not take hiding assets lightly. I'm sure the have years of attorney's fees, therapy, and other expenses associated with this five year ordeal. I hope their children have a sane person in their lives.

Having just gone through a lawsuit, I will say yes her suffering was worth that much. I cannot tell you how horrible it is to have crazy people come after you. It is a strain on your psyche, your marriage, your family, and your finances as you fight the lawsuit. It is horrifying. This couple planted drugs in her car! Absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Out of all the batsh*t crazy nonsense in this story, my favorite part is when Easter (Ava Everheart) is on the stand and manages to work into her testimony that she went to the most prestigious law school (Boalt Hall) out of everyone in the room. Like, how narcissistic do you have to be to have your whole life and livelihood on the line, but you are worried that the judge went to Hastings?

What about the part where she said she needed special assistance in order to take the stand because she lost her hearing. OMG.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Easters clearly got what was coming to them, and Kelli Peters definitely had a few harrowing months of WTH, but is it really $5.7 million worth of suffering? She may ever see that money and I understand she needs some income since her husband is ill, but that's a whole lot of money considering she was never actually arrested.

I also agree that she may have benefited from white privilege. At the time, nobody had any idea who planted the drugs. They originally thought it was the crazy guy across the street, who was Asian.

Juries do not take hiding assets lightly. I'm sure the have years of attorney's fees, therapy, and other expenses associated with this five year ordeal. I hope their children have a sane person in their lives.

Having just gone through a lawsuit, I will say yes her suffering was worth that much. I cannot tell you how horrible it is to have crazy people come after you. It is a strain on your psyche, your marriage, your family, and your finances as you fight the lawsuit. It is horrifying. This couple planted drugs in her car! Absurd.

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I still don't understand what put them over the edge? Did they feel that Kelli had somehow "wronged" them? Is that how crazy people think? I guess I don't know how to think that way, so it is hard for me to comprehend. If they are narcissistic does that mean that everything (every single thing) is about them - even if it is not remotely about them? The idea that they were so obsessed with Kelli and the harassment, etc. is unbelievable. They can say goodbye to any kind of normal life from now on (not that they had one to begin with). I know it exists, I just don't understand what drives people like Jill and Kent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every Jill I've ever met, and I mean ever - has been a harpy, controlling, nut job.

You know what? Now that I've thought about it, I know 8 Jills. 1 is normal.

[Anonymous]

For the people who insist on bringing race into a story of involving two white parties...

It's worth noting that the DA who inherited the case (which had been languishing for a year before it was assigned to him) was struck by the fact that if this frame up job had occurred in a different neighborhood, to a different victim, Peters would almost certainly have been hauled off in handcuffs and absolutely not been given the benefit of the doubt.

It was the DA's awareness of the diabolical, malicious intent of the Easters that made him want to go ahead and move on arrest, indictment, and prosecution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Easters clearly got what was coming to them, and Kelli Peters definitely had a few harrowing months of WTH, but is it really $5.7 million worth of suffering? She may ever see that money and I understand she needs some income since her husband is ill, but that's a whole lot of money considering she was never actually arrested.

I also agree that she may have benefited from white privilege. At the time, nobody had any idea who planted the drugs. They originally thought it was the crazy guy across the street, who was Asian.

Juries do not take hiding assets lightly. I'm sure the have years of attorney's fees, therapy, and other expenses associated with this five year ordeal. I hope their children have a sane person in their lives.

Having just gone through a lawsuit, I will say yes her suffering was worth that much. I cannot tell you how horrible it is to have crazy people come after you. It is a strain on your psyche, your marriage, your family, and your finances as you fight the lawsuit. It is horrifying. This couple planted drugs in her car! Absurd.

+1

I still don't understand what put them over the edge? Did they feel that Kelli had somehow "wronged" them? Is that how crazy people think? I guess I don't know how to think that way, so it is hard for me to comprehend. If they are narcissistic does that mean that everything (every single thing) is about them - even if it is not remotely about them? The idea that they were so obsessed with Kelli and the harassment, etc. is unbelievable. They can say goodbye to any kind of normal life from now on (not that they had one to begin with). I know it exists, I just don't understand what drives people like Jill and Kent.

That's the problem with paranoid people. Even a completely innocent remark can be reconstructed as a deep personal insult (or "microaggression")

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every Jill I've ever met, and I mean ever - has been a harpy, controlling, nut job.

You know what? Now that I've thought about it, I know 8 Jills. 1 is normal.

k

See?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Jill I've ever met, and I mean ever - has been a harpy, controlling, nut job.

You know what? Now that I've thought about it, I know 8 Jills. 1 is normal.

Hmm . . . what is it with that name? I know 1 and she comes across nice at first and then you realize she's a judgmental, mean girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Jill I've ever met, and I mean ever - has been a harpy, controlling, nut job.

You know what? Now that I've thought about it, I know 8 Jills. 1 is normal.

Hmm . . . what is it with that name? I know 1 and she comes across nice at first and then you realize she's a judgmental, mean girl.

What a horrible namist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Out of all the batsh*t crazy nonsense in this story, my favorite part is when Easter (Ava Everheart) is on the stand and manages to work into her testimony that she went to the most prestigious law school (Boalt Hall) out of everyone in the room. Like, how narcissistic do you have to be to have your whole life and livelihood on the line, but you are worried that the judge went to Hastings?

+ 1

and that she's now supposedly deaf or hard of hearing and needs a translator even though she doesn't know ASL. I snorted at that.

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Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Out of all the batsh*t crazy nonsense in this story, my favorite part is when Easter (Ava Everheart) is on the stand and manages to work into her testimony that she went to the most prestigious law school (Boalt Hall) out of everyone in the room. Like, how narcissistic do you have to be to have your whole life and livelihood on the line, but you are worried that the judge went to Hastings?

What about the part where she said she needed special assistance in order to take the stand because she lost her hearing. OMG.

Right? The crazy just keeps on coming. It wasn't a one time event of crazy, or an "acting" crazy - Jill really is far-fetched crazy, and kept pushing the crazy limits! I think she believed that crap that spewed from her mouth. Did her husband believe that crap that spewed from his and her mouth? Was he just whipped? She was clearly impossible to live with. I mean, I suppose whipped husbands exist - but this takes the cake! It's got to be more than that. I am in awe of their lack of perspective (though I have certainly seen it before).

Why didn't the judge just summon an interpreter (to call Jill on her BS)? Wouldn't that have stopped her in her tracks? Or perhaps the judge didn't want to feed into the crazy?