Have you read "Framed" in the LA Times

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What if the Easters didn't give their names? What if the Easters (in pure criminal fashion, as when they made up the fliers they distributed and also concocted several false claims) had their friends call the police as well?

Are you looking for pointers on how the Easters could have done a better job of covering their tracks?

No. I have seen people attempt false reports, so I am wondering about what drives deceitful people.

...but they DIDN'T call it in. He called and used a fake name and fake Indian accent.

Kent Easter most certainly DID call it in - read the article. It's no matter, calls are always traced.

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Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

+1

That kind of unstable, fixated couple/person would go after any arbitrary target they wanted. Why should their targets (who did nothing) have to tolerate that? Clearly the police had seen this type of thing before. Not all police are stupid - some, but not all. We have all seen police target the wrong person - this cop was smart enough to know better.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

If they were willing to go to such lengths over absolutely nothing... They were a true danger and menace to that community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

+1

Except now, the perps probably lost custody of their children. Justice? Perhaps. Their children are likely in better, stable and more capable hands now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

If they were willing to go to such lengths over absolutely nothing... They were a true danger and menace to that community.

+1 PREACH.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

+1

Except now, the perps probably lost custody of their children. Justice? Perhaps. Their children are likely in better, stable and more capable hands now.

Jill Easter has custody of her kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Personally , I think the real unsung heroes in this whole ordeal is the Irvine police department . This is precisely what the job of a police officer should be like , professional at all times , impartial , immune to individuals and their perceived socio economic statuses .

However , this being America I can't help it but think a minority woman wouldn't have benefited from the presumption of innocence, doubts, empathy and goodwill that Kelli Peters benefited from . You're welcome to prove me wrong

I disagree. I think the Irvine PD went on a relatively wild goose chase to prosecute the Easters. I think it's great that they immediately saw that PTA mom was framed and did not charge her. BUT, it seems like they expended a LOT of resources in getting the Easters and I don't think they were really worth it. Crazy, yes, but probably not all that harmful, especially since no one believed their stupid plant. Seems like much ado about very little.

You do realize the PTA mom could have lost custody of her kids, right? This couple was trying to ruin her life.

The reason the police had to devote so many resources is because the couple was almost bullet proof with their knowledge of the law, their money, and their legal connections. Without a lot of persistence on the part of the police, they would have gotten away scot free and then what? Reformed? Decided to change their ways? Who knows what they were capable of.

+1

Except now, the perps probably lost custody of their children. Justice? Perhaps. Their children are likely in better, stable and more capable hands now.

Jill Easter has custody of her kids.

For the time being. Because a woman like this - well, it's just a matter of time. "Nothing is her fault", right?

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Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

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Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

Only on DCUM could an amazing story about two crazy ass white people victimizing another white person and some cops who ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT be turned into a race war. Congrats, pp, you are off the deep end.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

Only on DCUM could an amazing story about two crazy ass white people victimizing another white person and some cops who ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT be turned into a race war. Congrats, pp, you are off the deep end.

Exactly. Which is why this subtopic has its own thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/582691.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

Only on DCUM could an amazing story about two crazy ass white people victimizing another white person and some cops who ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT be turned into a race war. Congrats, pp, you are off the deep end.

Exactly. Which is why this subtopic has its own thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/582691.page

That it didn't need since people have been relevantly discussing it here. The only person escalating the race thing is you resounding to anyone who even halfway mentions it with such fervor and vitriol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

Only on DCUM could an amazing story about two crazy ass white people victimizing another white person and some cops who ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT be turned into a race war. Congrats, pp, you are off the deep end.

Exactly. Which is why this subtopic has its own thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/582691.page

That it didn't need since people have been relevantly discussing it here. The only person escalating the race thing is you resounding to anyone who even halfway mentions it with such fervor and vitriol

The good news is that you are not prone to over reaction and hostility. Jill, is that you? Or should I say another name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would be thoroughly unsurprised if Jill tries to hire a hit man to kill Kent for the life insurance money, somehow believing that suspicion wouldn't attach itself to her.

+1

This is going to be good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read that yesterday! Holy crap it's crazy! Who would do that!? She's so lucky she is white.

Fixed.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. A white middle class person gets the benefit of the doubt.

Have you read the story? Both parties are white. One (the criminal) is much richer than the other. It has nothing to do with race.

+1.

There's obviously some racist die-hards still around us

I don't know. Both parties are white but do you really think that if this had happened at an inner city LA school and the PTA volunteer was black and poor that the cop would have been looking for reasons to exonerate? I think that is PP's point. The woman being an older frail white woman living in Irvine is the primary reason the cop thought twice about it.

And I'm a white woman FWIW.

You may not know, but white women can be crazy too. Like the one who committed the crime depicted in the article. Or, apparently, like you.

Read the article and you'll see that...
1) The initial suspect fully cooperated with the police
2) She had zero, as in zero, previous felonies or crimes
3) Nothing in her house, exhaustively searched, supported the drug possession
4) The drug find was in itself very unusual
5) There were obvious red flags with the 911 call
6) Everyone in the school, who had been working with her for years, testified on her behalf

I am sure that, in the same circumstances 1 to 6, anyone black and poor would have been treated the same way.

Please, Stop the Racist BS.

x 1000

PP who keep bringing up race and trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. It is just speculation.

If this had happened between two black families or even one black victim in wealthy Newport Beach, you don't think the police would have taken it seriously?

NP here. Wow, you guys are living in a white bubble if you think white privilege has nothing to do with this story. I think you all need to take a closer look at your denial.

Only on DCUM could an amazing story about two crazy ass white people victimizing another white person and some cops who ACTUALLY GOT IT RIGHT be turned into a race war. Congrats, pp, you are off the deep end.

Exactly. Which is why this subtopic has its own thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/582691.page

That it didn't need since people have been relevantly discussing it here. The only person escalating the race thing is you resounding to anyone who even halfway mentions it with such fervor and vitriol

The good news is that you are not prone to over reaction and hostility. Jill, is that you? Or should I say another name?

VJ Chandrasckhr please.

[Anonymous]

I am intrigued by how much they thought they could get away with, and why they did not involve other people more. Sometimes people follow this kind of demanding person, no matter how whacko. Sometimes people follow because they don't want to meet their wrath. Or sometimes it is as simple as misery loves company. Not saying it is the smart thing to do, but it happens. PP here.