Are people secretive about their FA status at your private school?

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Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

So I'm a crook now? OK. LOL

Grifter. There's a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

Then stop donating and show your true face to the school!
Why can't any aid people do it instead of all this passive aggressive behavior?

Agree. Though my guess is that most anti-aid people are not the big contributors. I doubt those people have time or the care to log into DCUM and post anti-aid comments. The few who talk about not donating next year are more than likely the ones who can barely afford to donate but do so trying to keep up with Jones -- thus their resentment. Perhaps they should try and be true to their checkbook.

So you are on FA and resentful of the people who donate to the annual campaign when they really cannot afford to? Wow.

What? I'm the least resentful of all. Yes I am on FA and extremely grateful to those who donate. Heck, even I donate what I can. However, what I will not be is beholden to anyone. If you are donating, it should be because you want to and not out of insincere obligation. Donating should be like tithing -- you should be a cheerful giver. If you aren't cheerful about it, then why bother? Yes, your dollar will spend but at what cost? Having to read or listen to your behind the screen rants? Who has time for that or should even have to endure it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

So I'm a crook now? OK. LOL

Grifter. There's a difference.

A grifter? Really? LOL. Do tell how so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing I dislike about FA is that going to a private is very much a stretch for people on FA, and year to year they may not be back. They create a level of churn in the student body that in just not there in the full pay kids. That churn creates problems of its own - pretty steady influx of new students, activities and sports teams with holes from departed students, etc. It would be better to provide multiyear FA grants, although I can see problems that that would create as well.

This may be a valid point. But I think the same can be true for any family. Financial circumstances change and what was adorable this year might not be affordable next year. We are on FA and if one of us lose our job we would have to consider moving to public or a cheaper private school. But that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life in fear of the unknown either. So yes, we are taking it year by year and are hopeful that it will all work out. I think schools should be a bit more upfront with families they provide substantial aid to. No one really talks to you about all the "other" cost. If you aren't familiar with the private school world that can be a shocker. I knew there would be additional cost and so we saved separately to cover them (camps, enrichments, etc.). However, I'm sure most people don't factor those thing into and a year down the road find they are barely able to tread water and their DC isn't getting the full experience.

[Anonymous]

*Affordable, not adorable. Ha!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

Then stop donating and show your true face to the school!
Why can't any aid people do it instead of all this passive aggressive behavior?

Agree. Though my guess is that most anti-aid people are not the big contributors. I doubt those people have time or the care to log into DCUM and post anti-aid comments. The few who talk about not donating next year are more than likely the ones who can barely afford to donate but do so trying to keep up with Jones -- thus their resentment. Perhaps they should try and be true to their checkbook.

So you are on FA and resentful of the people who donate to the annual campaign when they really cannot afford to? Wow.

What? I'm the least resentful of all. Yes I am on FA and extremely grateful to those who donate. Heck, even I donate what I can. However, what I will not be is beholden to anyone. If you are donating, it should be because you want to and not out of insincere obligation. Donating should be like tithing -- you should be a cheerful giver. If you aren't cheerful about it, then why bother? Yes, your dollar will spend but at what cost? Having to read or listen to your behind the screen rants? Who has time for that or should even have to endure it?

People give for all sorts of reasons, obligation being a huge one. Creating that feeling of obligation is one of the primary roles of a development office, and it often is pretty transparent.

[Anonymous]

At the top schools with the larger FA budgets FA recipients do not normally leave the school for financial reasons in high school. People do leave because they move or for academic reasons, but FA recipients are as stable as anyone else. If a family( FA or full pay) has a severe financial setback that they could not have avoided, the FA office will work with them to try and cover it. Its ridiculous to blame FA for "turnover" at school. I am tired of people blaming poor people for everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

Then stop donating and show your true face to the school!
Why can't any aid people do it instead of all this passive aggressive behavior?

Agree. Though my guess is that most anti-aid people are not the big contributors. I doubt those people have time or the care to log into DCUM and post anti-aid comments. The few who talk about not donating next year are more than likely the ones who can barely afford to donate but do so trying to keep up with Jones -- thus their resentment. Perhaps they should try and be true to their checkbook.

So you are on FA and resentful of the people who donate to the annual campaign when they really cannot afford to? Wow.

What? I'm the least resentful of all. Yes I am on FA and extremely grateful to those who donate. Heck, even I donate what I can. However, what I will not be is beholden to anyone. If you are donating, it should be because you want to and not out of insincere obligation. Donating should be like tithing -- you should be a cheerful giver. If you aren't cheerful about it, then why bother? Yes, your dollar will spend but at what cost? Having to read or listen to your behind the screen rants? Who has time for that or should even have to endure it?[/quote]

Mam, no amount of magical thinking will change the fact that you are in fact beholden to me and hundreds or thousands like me who pay for your children to be educated bc you lack the intelligence and/or drive to do so. It doesn't matter to me economically that I pay for your family's inability to care for itself -- Im mid 40's with HHI of 2.2 million which is growing fast. But your ungrateful mouth is annoying. You owe the people that are forced to support your children an apology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I dislike about FA is that going to a private is very much a stretch for people on FA, and year to year they may not be back. They create a level of churn in the student body that in just not there in the full pay kids. That churn creates problems of its own - pretty steady influx of new students, activities and sports teams with holes from departed students, etc. It would be better to provide multiyear FA grants, although I can see problems that that would create as well.

This may be a valid point. But I think the same can be true for any family. Financial circumstances change and what was adorable this year might not be affordable next year. We are on FA and if one of us lose our job we would have to consider moving to public or a cheaper private school. But that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life in fear of the unknown either. So yes, we are taking it year by year and are hopeful that it will all work out. I think schools should be a bit more upfront with families they provide substantial aid to. No one really talks to you about all the "other" cost. If you aren't familiar with the private school world that can be a shocker. I knew there would be additional cost and so we saved separately to cover them (camps, enrichments, etc.). However, I'm sure most people don't factor those thing into and a year down the road find they are barely able to tread water and their DC isn't getting the full experience.

Curious about your comment on enrichment. Do FA recipients get covered for things like service trips, educational trips, sports fees, lunches, etc? I know my DC (an athlete) can easily spend $200/mo in the cafeteria, and that's probably a low estimate. Add in a $4K Europe trip and a $1K service trip - it's probably an extra $5 - $6K you can spend at the school to get everything you might want out of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

Then stop donating and show your true face to the school!
Why can't any aid people do it instead of all this passive aggressive behavior?

Agree. Though my guess is that most anti-aid people are not the big contributors. I doubt those people have time or the care to log into DCUM and post anti-aid comments. The few who talk about not donating next year are more than likely the ones who can barely afford to donate but do so trying to keep up with Jones -- thus their resentment. Perhaps they should try and be true to their checkbook.

So you are on FA and resentful of the people who donate to the annual campaign when they really cannot afford to? Wow.

What? I'm the least resentful of all. Yes I am on FA and extremely grateful to those who donate. Heck, even I donate what I can. However, what I will not be is beholden to anyone. If you are donating, it should be because you want to and not out of insincere obligation. Donating should be like tithing -- you should be a cheerful giver. If you aren't cheerful about it, then why bother? Yes, your dollar will spend but at what cost? Having to read or listen to your behind the screen rants? Who has time for that or should even have to endure it?[/quote]

Mam, no amount of magical thinking will change the fact that you are in fact beholden to me and hundreds or thousands like me who pay for your children to be educated bc you lack the intelligence and/or drive to do so. It doesn't matter to me economically that I pay for your family's inability to care for itself -- Im mid 40's with HHI of 2.2 million which is growing fast. But your ungrateful mouth is annoying. You owe the people that are forced to support your children an apology.

It would be the closest day in hell before you get one. I'm beholden to no one and certainly not to someone whose self worth is in their bank account. Good for you and your millions at 40. Somehow I suspect you still aren't happy. LOL. Happy people don't have time to worry about what is going on in someone else's household, and you clearly spent a lot of time thinking about what I should or should not be doing.

[Anonymous]

COLDEST* not closest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I dislike about FA is that going to a private is very much a stretch for people on FA, and year to year they may not be back. They create a level of churn in the student body that in just not there in the full pay kids. That churn creates problems of its own - pretty steady influx of new students, activities and sports teams with holes from departed students, etc. It would be better to provide multiyear FA grants, although I can see problems that that would create as well.

This may be a valid point. But I think the same can be true for any family. Financial circumstances change and what was adorable this year might not be affordable next year. We are on FA and if one of us lose our job we would have to consider moving to public or a cheaper private school. But that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life in fear of the unknown either. So yes, we are taking it year by year and are hopeful that it will all work out. I think schools should be a bit more upfront with families they provide substantial aid to. No one really talks to you about all the "other" cost. If you aren't familiar with the private school world that can be a shocker. I knew there would be additional cost and so we saved separately to cover them (camps, enrichments, etc.). However, I'm sure most people don't factor those thing into and a year down the road find they are barely able to tread water and their DC isn't getting the full experience.

Curious about your comment on enrichment. Do FA recipients get covered for things like service trips, educational trips, sports fees, lunches, etc? I know my DC (an athlete) can easily spend $200/mo in the cafeteria, and that's probably a low estimate. Add in a $4K Europe trip and a $1K service trip - it's probably an extra $5 - $6K you can spend at the school to get everything you might want out of it.

Depends on the school from what I understand. My DC's school does provide a discount for the extras to families receiving FA. However, even with the discount some on FA are still priced out. I can think of one specific example where this has occurred -- after school enrichments. If the enrichment class is $2200 for the year and you get a 50% discount, $1100 that was not factored into the overall budget may still be cost prohibitive for some. I think when schools list their tuition and fees on their website, it would also be helpful to everyone (even full pay) if they also listed an estimate for extracurricular costs. I think this allows everyone to make a true informed decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most good crooks keep their misdeeds quiet.

Then stop donating and show your true face to the school!
Why can't any aid people do it instead of all this passive aggressive behavior?

Agree. Though my guess is that most anti-aid people are not the big contributors. I doubt those people have time or the care to log into DCUM and post anti-aid comments. The few who talk about not donating next year are more than likely the ones who can barely afford to donate but do so trying to keep up with Jones -- thus their resentment. Perhaps they should try and be true to their checkbook.

So you are on FA and resentful of the people who donate to the annual campaign when they really cannot afford to? Wow.

What? I'm the least resentful of all. Yes I am on FA and extremely grateful to those who donate. Heck, even I donate what I can. However, what I will not be is beholden to anyone. If you are donating, it should be because you want to and not out of insincere obligation. Donating should be like tithing -- you should be a cheerful giver. If you aren't cheerful about it, then why bother? Yes, your dollar will spend but at what cost? Having to read or listen to your behind the screen rants? Who has time for that or should even have to endure it?

People give for all sorts of reasons, obligation being a huge one. Creating that feeling of obligation is one of the primary roles of a development office, and it often is pretty transparent.

+1. Sent our DC on a service trip, solicitation for funds for such trips arrived 30 days later. Straight line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing I dislike about FA is that going to a private is very much a stretch for people on FA, and year to year they may not be back. They create a level of churn in the student body that in just not there in the full pay kids. That churn creates problems of its own - pretty steady influx of new students, activities and sports teams with holes from departed students, etc. It would be better to provide multiyear FA grants, although I can see problems that that would create as well.

This may be a valid point. But I think the same can be true for any family. Financial circumstances change and what was adorable this year might not be affordable next year. We are on FA and if one of us lose our job we would have to consider moving to public or a cheaper private school. But that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life in fear of the unknown either. So yes, we are taking it year by year and are hopeful that it will all work out. I think schools should be a bit more upfront with families they provide substantial aid to. No one really talks to you about all the "other" cost. If you aren't familiar with the private school world that can be a shocker. I knew there would be additional cost and so we saved separately to cover them (camps, enrichments, etc.). However, I'm sure most people don't factor those thing into and a year down the road find they are barely able to tread water and their DC isn't getting the full experience.

Curious about your comment on enrichment. Do FA recipients get covered for things like service trips, educational trips, sports fees, lunches, etc? I know my DC (an athlete) can easily spend $200/mo in the cafeteria, and that's probably a low estimate. Add in a $4K Europe trip and a $1K service trip - it's probably an extra $5 - $6K you can spend at the school to get everything you might want out of it.

My children on FA don't participate in enrichment classes. It is too expensive and our school does not give a discount.

[Anonymous]

Everyone knows who the FA families are so just own it