Attorney General Wins $539,000 Judgment against Couple for Fraudulently Enrolling Children in DCPS

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Even if DC were a city in the state of MD this would be illegal. In MD, you can't just send your kid to whichever school you want to either.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Here's a solution: Move!

I truly pity people who don't/can't live where they want to live. How miserable...

I truly pity people who think this is a nice place. I've made my peace with how terrible it is here. It's usually amusing. And you all are always entertaining with your miserable striving schemes. And we have money, that does help. But the amount of joy some of you get from the suffering of others... Your righteous zealotry... I assume this is why you really went into politics? So you'd have an excuse to be insufferable?

It's funny.

cry me a river. "suffering of others"? Please. This was a 2 income family which owned at least one investment property. Cops don't generally get rich but it's a decent paying job with good benefits (how many DCUM posters have pensions?). I don't get the pathology in defending people who were caught red handed committing extensive fraud of government services. Above PP comparison to doctors bilking DC Medicare payments is an excellent example.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking your schadenfreude. You know how you enjoy repeated ad nauseam that there are Maryland people cheating DC? I have come to enjoy pointing out that DC is full of miserable, entitled blowhards. Like you, who are pathetically obsessed with their own status, what someone else might have, and how life isn't fair. It is like the city on the hill, is the city on the hill of a giant pile of whine. Waahhh. We're not a state. Waaah, PG residents. Waaaahhhh.

You're funny. I hear you.

NP here. I don't understand how you can find that person amusing, she clearly has deep seated emotional issues that she needs to work out in therapy. I feel sad for her husband and kids.

No, you dont. You are far too entitled and insecure to feel sincerely sorry for anyone; as evidenced time and again when you whine.

I agree. Whenever an "adult" takes time out of her day to actually type "waaaahhhh" I immediately start to wonder what's wrong with her.

I'm pleased to see DC crack down on school cheaters. I'm still disturbed by this sort of pathological anti-social behavior.

[Anonymous]

It really bothers me that these two were DC police officers-sworn to UPHOLD THE LAW! Are they getting disciplined at work as well?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Here's a solution: Move!

I truly pity people who don't/can't live where they want to live. How miserable...

I truly pity people who think this is a nice place. I've made my peace with how terrible it is here. It's usually amusing. And you all are always entertaining with your miserable striving schemes. And we have money, that does help. But the amount of joy some of you get from the suffering of others... Your righteous zealotry... I assume this is why you really went into politics? So you'd have an excuse to be insufferable?

It's funny.

cry me a river. "suffering of others"? Please. This was a 2 income family which owned at least one investment property. Cops don't generally get rich but it's a decent paying job with good benefits (how many DCUM posters have pensions?). I don't get the pathology in defending people who were caught red handed committing extensive fraud of government services. Above PP comparison to doctors bilking DC Medicare payments is an excellent example.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking your schadenfreude. You know how you enjoy repeated ad nauseam that there are Maryland people cheating DC? I have come to enjoy pointing out that DC is full of miserable, entitled blowhards. Like you, who are pathetically obsessed with their own status, what someone else might have, and how life isn't fair. It is like the city on the hill, is the city on the hill of a giant pile of whine. Waahhh. We're not a state. Waaah, PG residents. Waaaahhhh.

BS. I get no pleasure from seeing them prosecuted. I'm more relieved it wasn't a genuine hardship case getting pummeled and just a couple who felt they were above the law. Who's the entitled one -- the people who feel the system is theirs to game because they used to live in DC and think they can abuse a system lacking oversight or the current tax paying residents dealing with the constraints of limited school choice and a limited pot for public education dollars?

I'd rather see charters filled with DC residents who want those spaces (and yes, plenty of DC residents get shut out of those charters) and if there isn't enough demand from DC residents I'd rather see those charters close instead of enabling residency fraud to operate and siphon $$ from the greater pool public school expenditure. I'm perfectly happy if ALL of those students come from Wards 7 & 8, FARM, whatever . . .

And you don't know dick about me so drop your assumptions. I'd love to see YOU in court using that argument about enablers being an excuse for breaking the law. You'd be dog meat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Here's a solution: Move!

I truly pity people who don't/can't live where they want to live. How miserable...

I truly pity people who think this is a nice place. I've made my peace with how terrible it is here. It's usually amusing. And you all are always entertaining with your miserable striving schemes. And we have money, that does help. But the amount of joy some of you get from the suffering of others... Your righteous zealotry... I assume this is why you really went into politics? So you'd have an excuse to be insufferable?

It's funny.

cry me a river. "suffering of others"? Please. This was a 2 income family which owned at least one investment property. Cops don't generally get rich but it's a decent paying job with good benefits (how many DCUM posters have pensions?). I don't get the pathology in defending people who were caught red handed committing extensive fraud of government services. Above PP comparison to doctors bilking DC Medicare payments is an excellent example.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking your schadenfreude. You know how you enjoy repeated ad nauseam that there are Maryland people cheating DC? I have come to enjoy pointing out that DC is full of miserable, entitled blowhards. Like you, who are pathetically obsessed with their own status, what someone else might have, and how life isn't fair. It is like the city on the hill, is the city on the hill of a giant pile of whine. Waahhh. We're not a state. Waaah, PG residents. Waaaahhhh.

Hee! Pot, meet kettle!

You're the most miserable sounding entitled blowhard on this thread, enraptured and pathetically obsessed with her own self!

Wah wah wah wahahahahahaha!!!

You should just leave DC, seriously. PG sucks and so do you. Mwah! (kisses - from someone prettier and happier than you!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here: Both husband and wife are MPD officers: http://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney-general-files-suit-against-police-officers-who-claimed-false-district-residency

One would think police officers would be acquainted with the consequences of law-breaking.

According to the Post they even did drop off and pick up in police cruiser, no that's egregious!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: Both husband and wife are MPD officers: http://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney-general-files-suit-against-police-officers-who-claimed-false-district-residency

One would think police officers would be acquainted with the consequences of law-breaking.

According to the Post they even did drop off and pick up in police cruiser, no that's egregious!!!!

That's no biggie; officers can do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: Both husband and wife are MPD officers: http://oag.dc.gov/release/attorney-general-files-suit-against-police-officers-who-claimed-false-district-residency

One would think police officers would be acquainted with the consequences of law-breaking.

According to the Post they even did drop off and pick up in police cruiser, no that's egregious!!!!

That's no biggie; officers can do that.

You sound like the type of parent who would serve alcohol at your kids' underage party because you would "prefer that they do it at home." Anything goes in your home--no boundaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Here's a solution: Move!

I truly pity people who don't/can't live where they want to live. How miserable...

I truly pity people who think this is a nice place. I've made my peace with how terrible it is here. It's usually amusing. And you all are always entertaining with your miserable striving schemes. And we have money, that does help. But the amount of joy some of you get from the suffering of others... Your righteous zealotry... I assume this is why you really went into politics? So you'd have an excuse to be insufferable?

It's funny.

cry me a river. "suffering of others"? Please. This was a 2 income family which owned at least one investment property. Cops don't generally get rich but it's a decent paying job with good benefits (how many DCUM posters have pensions?). I don't get the pathology in defending people who were caught red handed committing extensive fraud of government services. Above PP comparison to doctors bilking DC Medicare payments is an excellent example.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking your schadenfreude. You know how you enjoy repeated ad nauseam that there are Maryland people cheating DC? I have come to enjoy pointing out that DC is full of miserable, entitled blowhards. Like you, who are pathetically obsessed with their own status, what someone else might have, and how life isn't fair. It is like the city on the hill, is the city on the hill of a giant pile of whine. Waahhh. We're not a state. Waaah, PG residents. Waaaahhhh.

BS. I get no pleasure from seeing them prosecuted. I'm more relieved it wasn't a genuine hardship case getting pummeled and just a couple who felt they were above the law. Who's the entitled one -- the people who feel the system is theirs to game because they used to live in DC and think they can abuse a system lacking oversight or the current tax paying residents dealing with the constraints of limited school choice and a limited pot for public education dollars?

I'd rather see charters filled with DC residents who want those spaces (and yes, plenty of DC residents get shut out of those charters) and if there isn't enough demand from DC residents I'd rather see those charters close instead of enabling residency fraud to operate and siphon $$ from the greater pool public school expenditure. I'm perfectly happy if ALL of those students come from Wards 7 & 8, FARM, whatever . . .

And you don't know dick about me so drop your assumptions. I'd love to see YOU in court using that argument about enablers being an excuse for breaking the law. You'd be dog meat.

now you're just a caricature of yourself. lol at proving her point.

[Anonymous]

Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

[Anonymous]

What was their defense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Justice is served. I hope anyone who has poo-poo'd the seriousness oft the residency cheating problem (and they are many on this board) will re-read the words of our Attorney General (no racist or radical, he) for proof that cheating is fraud and must be punished with criminal sanctions.

Ward 9 cheatahs be shaking in boots today.

Why should DC residents support out-of-state interlopers, especially when many of them ignore the inequity of taxation without representation for DC residents? However, I find your last remark quite insulting and would like to know what point you are trying to make? Your racism is shining through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice is served. I hope anyone who has poo-poo'd the seriousness oft the residency cheating problem (and they are many on this board) will re-read the words of our Attorney General (no racist or radical, he) for proof that cheating is fraud and must be punished with criminal sanctions.

Ward 9 cheatahs be shaking in boots today.

Why should DC residents support out-of-state interlopers, especially when many of them ignore the inequity of taxation without representation for DC residents? However, I find your last remark quite insulting and would like to know what point you are trying to make? Your racism is shining through.

Why? Do you live in Ward 9? DC Lives matter, cuz! Your bias is showing through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

This. Their lives at pretty much ruined by that fantastical sum they'll be paying off forever. Their kids' college money, their retirement, gone. I am not supporting fraud, but I know how impossible it can be for working families to juggle shifts, kids, and life. I don't really blame anyone for doing what they can--we all do.

Of course. I also think dc is a ridiculous place that makes ridiculous distinctions between itself and Maryland... And should jsut be a part of Maryland already.

And no, for the trillionth time: not a pg resident. We live in the district. Send our kids to district schools. Zoned for deal and Wilson. Never needed prek3 here. Maybe that's my problem? I have no skin in this game. I don't feel cheated, except that I have to live in such a sad, vindictive, malarial swamp ass of a city.

Here's a solution: Move!

I truly pity people who don't/can't live where they want to live. How miserable...

I truly pity people who think this is a nice place. I've made my peace with how terrible it is here. It's usually amusing. And you all are always entertaining with your miserable striving schemes. And we have money, that does help. But the amount of joy some of you get from the suffering of others... Your righteous zealotry... I assume this is why you really went into politics? So you'd have an excuse to be insufferable?

It's funny.

cry me a river. "suffering of others"? Please. This was a 2 income family which owned at least one investment property. Cops don't generally get rich but it's a decent paying job with good benefits (how many DCUM posters have pensions?). I don't get the pathology in defending people who were caught red handed committing extensive fraud of government services. Above PP comparison to doctors bilking DC Medicare payments is an excellent example.

I'm not defending them. I'm mocking your schadenfreude. You know how you enjoy repeated ad nauseam that there are Maryland people cheating DC? I have come to enjoy pointing out that DC is full of miserable, entitled blowhards. Like you, who are pathetically obsessed with their own status, what someone else might have, and how life isn't fair. It is like the city on the hill, is the city on the hill of a giant pile of whine. Waahhh. We're not a state. Waaah, PG residents. Waaaahhhh.

BS. I get no pleasure from seeing them prosecuted. I'm more relieved it wasn't a genuine hardship case getting pummeled and just a couple who felt they were above the law. Who's the entitled one -- the people who feel the system is theirs to game because they used to live in DC and think they can abuse a system lacking oversight or the current tax paying residents dealing with the constraints of limited school choice and a limited pot for public education dollars?

I'd rather see charters filled with DC residents who want those spaces (and yes, plenty of DC residents get shut out of those charters) and if there isn't enough demand from DC residents I'd rather see those charters close instead of enabling residency fraud to operate and siphon $$ from the greater pool public school expenditure. I'm perfectly happy if ALL of those students come from Wards 7 & 8, FARM, whatever . . .

And you don't know dick about me so drop your assumptions. I'd love to see YOU in court using that argument about enablers being an excuse for breaking the law. You'd be dog meat.

now you're just a caricature of yourself. lol at proving her point.

Right? They dig their own holes. I want to hear more about the pretty and happy one. Note she didn't say, "smart." Not pg resident. Not for cheating. Just disgusted by the tenor of the arguments here. I used to be nice about it. I used to try and make polite points, about how no one knew everyone's circumstances, and it was generally better to tend to one's own garden, or use the channel available to report... But no. Some of you are women who desperately need to see someone else in the stocks, pathetically need to be part of an angry mob, shrill and self righteous and quite insistent that you're good at something, that your children are gifted, and your lives are perfect. Anyone who questions that? Is a "cheater." The only cheater I'd expect you know is the one you married.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

You can use our address for deal. I really don't give a shit. We're not sending our kids there. You want a contact?

No? Then stop whining. You want to send your kids to deal? Move into the zone.