Attorney General Wins $539,000 Judgment against Couple for Fraudulently Enrolling Children in DCPS

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I'm really enjoying the nutcakes coming out with blaming "whiners" (who aren't whining) and truly weird defenses of the criminals because there's simply no sane or rational defense for what those MPD officers were doing.

DCUM at its best.

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Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

Eaton was kicked over to Hardy. Oyster previously had a choice between Adams & Deal, now has a choice between Adams & Hardy. It should be good for Hardy.

I think it's Adams or SWW @ FS, not Hardy. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY16-17%20School%20Feeder%20Patterns%20-%20Revised.pdf

I'm an Oyster parent (my kids are too young for Adams). As a result of losing Deal as an option, I have been told by Adams' parents that Adams has retained a record number of students. This is great news for Adams!

On one level it makes sense for families that can't make better choices. On another, I'm just not in favor of trying to force people into an undesirable option.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never posted before, but for what it is worth, I thought I would. This is old news that is resurfacing for whatever reason. The students have been out of DCPS for at least 2 years now. I remember when the father informed me of the children not returning and why. It is unfortunate. Both parents were assigned to that district to work, and not only was the drop-off convenient, but they ORIGINALLY lived in DC. While they did move, the house in DC was not an investment property as the dad was living there. But "shame" on him for wanting his family to be together? For moving to Accokeek so his children would see him nightly...The investigation would have never happened if it had not been for office politics within the police department. Was what they did wrong? Yes. Can we all have empathy? We should if we are human. Is the penalty fair? It's what the law calls for, but there is no grace in it.
Those parents served that community well. Their children were kind, well-behaved, an assets to the learning and extra-curricular body. They are still missed.
The law was handed out. Don't drag their badges or who they are through the dust because you feel you would be more likely to have a coveted spot at one of the schools where their students attended. The law is dragging their bank accounts and their names through the dust and media... that's punishment enough.
How easily we judge...I can't blame them when I see teachers and principals who travel from Baltimore and rural Virginia in order to teach children here in the district, and yet see their children less because their commute is so far. It is about convenience. And quietly as it is kept finding a job as a teacher isn't easy, so the solution of teaching where one lives isn't always possible. My two cents...may we look on others with the grace we wish to receive...lest we make a mistake and karma only give us justice.

Sure it was convenient for them, but isn't attending a good school close to home convenient for all of us? Is there a reason they're so superior that they should be able to break the law and receive benefits that those who abide by it don't get? Besides Hillary Clinton, who gets to do that and get away with it?

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Anonymous wrote:What does not make sense is why anyone would go to such lengths to send their kids to DC public schools when they have the option of either Maryland or Virginia schools.

Tripling the amount is excessive though. It should be the amount of "tuition" plus a fine per kid.

The parents are police officers and the kids attended Eaton, Deal, and Wilson which were all convenient to their work places.

Aren't those schools just middling to average when you compare them to Arlington, fcps & montgomery county schools?

I get what they did was illegal, but if it was truly about cops/commute, wouldn't it make sense for DC to have a program for law enforcement/fire department to be able to place theirkids in schools close to their precincts, perhaps for a small "tuition" fee? DC really needs good cops and fire/rescue workers. Their kids are likely the tyoe of students who would be assets to this failing school system, as would having law enforcement officers who were personally invested in the local schools being safe and effective due to their own kids attending the schools.

I still thik tripling the fine is ridiculous given the victimless nature of the crime.

No it would not make sense when those schools are bursting at the seems and plenty of other good students would love to attend.

The punishment fit the crime. Hope headlines like this become more frequent.

you sure about that? by DC area standards, they are lower middle class, 3 kids, and got a bill for $500,000. They will be very poor forever. I think this is very, very harsh, and I think most proponents do not understand life on a double police officer pay with 3 kids in this area. You are all for illegal immigrants getting freebies though. Funny how that works.

You are against animal testing, but aren't worried too much about our having destroyed Syria causing hundreds of thousands to die, and millions of children to be homeless (or slaves, or raped or dead).

You likely don't think much of the families of terror victims. No biggie. But you sure will never buy a gilette razor, those poor bunnies in the 1990s. .

And gollie, America is so great!

So much hypocrisy on this board I think I come here because I love to hate it, I don't know.

I think I come here because occasionally someone same with perspective like you posts, and I hate this part of the country a little less, if only until the next barrage of "but they're Cheaty cheaters how can you condone cheating" posts begin again.

I have become somewhat convinced that half of the self righteous (at least half) whiners posting here are daily caller interns. The other half are the same sad women who always chime in on this issue, desperate for whatever reason to repeat ad nauseum: cheaters are bad! Wahhh.

Maybe it's a form of ocd.

Every time I hear the "Wahhhmbulance" I want throw up a little bit. I have nothing but disdain for mentally silly little pretend grown-ups who can't use adult words.

As Pacino said: "You f*cking child."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm really enjoying the nutcakes coming out with blaming "whiners" (who aren't whining) and truly weird defenses of the criminals because there's simply no sane or rational defense for what those MPD officers were doing.

DCUM at its best.

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well I feel like they stole from me. I could not get into Deal and our local educational campus sucks so I paid $70,000 for three years of private middle school. They stole my spot, or someone like me who lives in the District and pays taxes.

Why is this a "victimless" crime?

Indeed. Two entire DCPS schools last year were kicked out of the Deal feeder pattern because of cited overcrowding at Deal. It's aggravating to realize that some of that 'overcrowding' is due to students whose parents commit residency fraud.

What, please give more information?

Eaton was kicked over to Hardy. Oyster previously had a choice between Adams & Deal, now has a choice between Adams & Hardy. It should be good for Hardy.

I think it's Adams or SWW @ FS, not Hardy. http://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY16-17%20School%20Feeder%20Patterns%20-%20Revised.pdf

I'm an Oyster parent (my kids are too young for Adams). As a result of losing Deal as an option, I have been told by Adams' parents that Adams has retained a record number of students. This is great news for Adams!

On one level it makes sense for families that can't make better choices. On another, I'm just not in favor of trying to force people into an undesirable option.

No one is forced to stay at Adams--especially IB families that own SFHs. Those families, like my own, can afford to buy IB for Deal. However, I want my children to be bilingual and biliterate, and I've chosen Oyster-Adams to get them there. If anyone feels "forced" out of Deal, then they need to move IB for or pay for private. Otherwise, don't complain.

[Anonymous]

It's incredibly telling that this conversation has devolved into an anti-immigrant screed.

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Anonymous wrote:It's incredibly telling that this conversation has devolved into an anti-immigrant screed.

Not really.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm really enjoying the nutcakes coming out with blaming "whiners" (who aren't whining) and truly weird defenses of the criminals because there's simply no sane or rational defense for what those MPD officers were doing.

DCUM at its best.

WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

That's right. Think of the deserving DC children who can't get a coveted spot at Deal. Or the kids whose school libraries have fewer modern books or no science teacher because of the distortions in resources caused by educating kids from scamming Maryland families. Or the kids who will not get additional tutoring or after school enrichment because someone stole services and funds from DCPS. Fraud is fraud, theft is theft and DC government workers, particularly police officers of all people, should be held to the highest standard in obeying the law.

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Anonymous wrote:I have never posted before, but for what it is worth, I thought I would. This is old news that is resurfacing for whatever reason. The students have been out of DCPS for at least 2 years now. I remember when the father informed me of the children not returning and why. It is unfortunate. Both parents were assigned to that district to work, and not only was the drop-off convenient, but they ORIGINALLY lived in DC. While they did move, the house in DC was not an investment property as the dad was living there. But "shame" on him for wanting his family to be together? For moving to Accokeek so his children would see him nightly...The investigation would have never happened if it had not been for office politics within the police department. Was what they did wrong? Yes. Can we all have empathy? We should if we are human. Is the penalty fair? It's what the law calls for, but there is no grace in it.
Those parents served that community well. Their children were kind, well-behaved, an assets to the learning and extra-curricular body. They are still missed.
The law was handed out. Don't drag their badges or who they are through the dust because you feel you would be more likely to have a coveted spot at one of the schools where their students attended. The law is dragging their bank accounts and their names through the dust and media... that's punishment enough.
How easily we judge...I can't blame them when I see teachers and principals who travel from Baltimore and rural Virginia in order to teach children here in the district, and yet see their children less because their commute is so far. It is about convenience. And quietly as it is kept finding a job as a teacher isn't easy, so the solution of teaching where one lives isn't always possible. My two cents...may we look on others with the grace we wish to receive...lest we make a mistake and karma only give us justice.

Police of all people should know that law breakers face consequences.

There are a lot of good police officers, teachers, etc., but we have to get over this old DC culture that the DC government exists principally for the benefit of its employees, like the old Soviet nomenklatura. If cops and teachers want the benefit of enrolling their kids in DCPS, then they should negotiate for that. Of course, then a more stringent DC residency requirement should be on the table. Let the government and council look at the costs of such a benefit and who will pay for it. But the days of scamming and crony fraud need to end in DC already!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:for those concerned about the severity of the penalty rest assured they'll be able to claim bankruptcy and pay pennies on the dollar of assessed fines. Their MPD pensions will be untouched and they'll recover in a few years. The severity of the penalty is mostly a warning message to others doing the same thing with seeming impunity.

You cannot get fraud judgments extinguished in bankruptcy.

[Anonymous]

The cheaters must have a real sense of "entitlement" to think it's OK to do this and get away with it. Do they perceive themselves as victims of social oppression? Why do many on this board want to forgive others who do the same thing? I don't understand. If everyone did it, chaos.

[Anonymous]

The two cop couple easily made over 200k/year. That is so NOT "lower middle class", are you nuts?

[jsteele]

Thanks to all the posters that hijacked this thread to debate immigration. You really contributed to making my Saturday evening a success. I think this thread has served its purpose.